In this... Oh, so sorry. Could you hear me now? Augusto, loud and clear.
Thank you very much. Thank you, Stephen and thank you, Charles.
Hello for all the people that now is in the interview in this Zoom.
Augusto, just hang on a second. We do an introduction for you.
Oh, OK. I sent an email with my case that was published in the National Medicine Library in the United States
that David Healy, Brian Adresin and me, we...
So everyone on the call, if you haven't read the invitation and in particular the link to Augusto,
then have a read now because then it'll make more sense to you and you'll be able to ask better questions.
Yes, yes, yes. I sent my email, but I can share, but it's a little difficult for me to use by Zoom, but no problem.
Just one moment, please.
Hang on, Augusto, wait.
OK.
So two things. One, do you want to share your screen or not?
Yes, yes, yes, please, please, please.
Just one moment. Yep.
Because it's not really comfortable for me, the technology. I'm an old lawyer.
Understand. I used to be a lawyer as well, but I've recovered.
OK, let me welcome everybody and say hello particularly. I'm Charles Coviss. I'm the moderator on Australasia's Passion Provocateur.
That's why I wear red. Red is the color of passion. This is Stephen Frost's Initiated Medical Doctors for COVID Ethics.
And today we're hearing from Augusto Rue from Argentina, a lawyer who has been bio weapon jab injured.
We'll hear from him in a moment. Medical Doctors for COVID Ethics International is made up of lots of professions, doctors, lawyers, retired doctors, retired lawyers.
And I'm also now a legal strategist. Right.
We won't we won't mention radiology. We should mention radiologists specifically because that's what Stephen is.
Engineers, journalists, writers, researchers, nurses, investors, dentists, financiers, patent experts and Augusto, many troublemakers.
But you're a lawyer. You know what troublemakers are like.
We are here for increased understanding and a true spirit of exploration and discovery. Stephen started this group.
It is about ethics, but it is also about truth, about justice, about health, about freedom.
So most of us here understand we're in World War Three. Some of us say we this is a continuation of World War Two.
You are all welcome, particularly first timers. Welcome.
And all of you who are regular attendees are welcome to suggest new invitees.
Please send their email address to me. If this is your virginal visit.
Welcome. If this is your virginal visit, then welcome.
We go for two and a half.
That's your best joke yet, Charles.
We go for I don't do any funny walks, though.
We go for two and a half hours.
Now, if any of you have a regular podcast, a regular TV show, a regular sub stack, please put the links in the chat.
Please tell us about it. And each time put it in there each for each chat because we have a moving population.
And and so people can find you easily.
So the there is no censorship, but we have proper moderation.
Free speech is crucial for freedom.
So there is no there is no censorship, but we have to keep the we have to keep the meeting progressing for the two and a half hours.
So that's why we have to sometimes cut matters short.
This is all about the development of science.
If you have a product that you think is good for somebody or a solution to somebody, please put it in the chat.
We come from love, not fear or gusto.
We've told you've been to our meetings before. Love expands you.
Fear contracts you. Governments around the world want you to be scared.
If you're watching a recording or you're here today, this is your place where you are reminded not to be driven by fear.
Have an open mind and question your beliefs. Be willing to question beliefs.
People always get upset. Not people. Not always.
Many people get upset if somebody makes a statement contrary to their beliefs.
Just use this as an opportunity to explore your beliefs about what we are talking about.
And the this is recorded. It will be available on the Rumble channel.
We'll put the Rumble channel address into the chat.
We'll listen to Augusta Roo and we'll have questions and answers afterwards.
And lastly, if you're offended by anything that you hear today, we don't care.
So we love you and we don't care whether you're offended.
So thank you, Stephen, for organizing this group. Thank you for all of you being here.
Thank you, Augusta, for agreeing to speak.
You can share your screen and all of you have received the details about Augusta.
So we don't have to go through his background. Augusto, over to you.
Charles, can I just ask, tell the audience that they may miss it.
The crucial fact that Augusto, as I understand it, was injected with this poison prior to the rollout of the vaccines in the UK and worldwide subsequently.
So I think it was September or August 2021. Sorry, 2020. Isn't that right?
2020, yes.
Which month was it, Augusta?
The first dose, it was on August 2020.
August, yes.
Yes. And the second dose, it was on September 9, 2020 also.
This is the day that I suffered several adverse effects three hours after the second dose.
So Augusto is a victim of this vaccine, but crucially, he's a victim of the clinical trial in inverted commas, which allegedly was taking place before the vaccine rollout.
Is that right, Augusto?
Yes, that's right. Yes, yes.
Very good.
You will explain that with me. Yes. I don't know.
Because the people know my case and other people don't know my case.
Yeah, that's right. So that's a good reminder, Stephen. And the other good reminder.
Happy Valentine's Day. That was the other thing I meant to say, Augusto.
You know, here are my red, red hearts everywhere. And thank you everybody for the red hearts being shared.
Happy Valentine's Day. I hope all of you got lots of secret cards from secret admirers, because this is the one day when, Stephen, I hope you were swamped with cards from anonymous lovers and Augusto, you as well.
So happy Valentine's Day.
And you too.
And we'll thank you for that reminder, Stephen. The resources, David Resnick and others. Thank you for the wonderful resources. Keep putting resources into the chat. Augusto, over to you.
Yes, I want to tell about my history, a little resume.
The voluntary that I participate was by the Pfizer vaccine COVID-19 were conducted in the military hospital that depend on the Ministry of Defense in Argentina.
When I suffered the several adverse effects after the second dose, I suffered an acute pericarditis, sorry, liver damage.
And I was in the in the private hospital, not a private system in Argentina that is different with the military hospital, okay, for my cover, okay, my security, how do you say in English?
I have a security social, no, for my job. And I was in the German hospital.
We need, we need, we need Matilda here who can help translate if there's any words you are stuck on or anyone else who can speak wonderful Spanish.
Yes, of course, of course. Yes, hi, he's private medical medical.
Yes, yes, yes.
I was in the hospital three days after the second shot. Okay.
In this time, I thought I was fighting with the doctors and the nurse in this hospital, because I did not receive a good attention for my treatment in this time.
The doctors say 10 days after my my intonation in the hospital, and they told us, okay, Augusto, we, we, we could not give you a treatment, because we receive instructions from the military hospital.
I say what, because you should not receive an instruction from the military hospital, because this, this voluntary or this clinical trial is unblind.
I did not know if I receive a vaccine or placebo, and perhaps the, how to say, the acute pericarditis or deliberate damage that they suffer in this time, perhaps will have a relationship for vaccine or for the placebo or for another, another cause, no.
I detect in this time, the first violation of the protocol, because it was really serious because the doctors that give your treatment know in the hospital.
They did not receive or they could not receive an instruction from the military hospital. No.
I had a very hard discussion with Fernando Pollack in the communication, because my doctors in the German hospital, they asked to me, Augusto, we need to open the double blind, because this situation is very bad for your health.
Okay. Let me say, let me say something. Pollack is the doctor in charge of the trial here in Argentina. He was like the chief in charge of the trial in the military hospital.
Okay, you can continue.
He is the director of the clinical trial. He represents a company that is e-trial society.
Fernando Pollack told me that I could not open the double blind, because the patient may have a risk for death.
What? I detect the second violation. The first violation, it was my doctor received an instruction from a military hospital to take the treatment, okay, or not take a treatment for my illness.
The second violation, it was when Fernando Pollack told me in the record that I have this audio, okay, because I record this audio. I record this audio, sorry.
Fernando Pollack told me that no, Augusto, we need for open the double blind, we need, how to say, a lot of risk that the patient will die. Okay. This is the situation that I can open the double blind. Oh my God.
I didn't understand. He said that only if you had a risk of life threats, then you could open it and you wasn't in.
Yes, yes, yes. The only risk that you should open the double blind is the patient is dying. Fernando Pollack told me that in the, how to say, I resume his words, no?
And then from this day, in September 24, I made a complaint to the ATMAT. ATMAT is the medicine, it's like the FDA in Argentina, no?
Because in Argentina we have an institution that regulates the medicine and food, okay? And I made a complaint in this institution, okay?
I have an audience on October 8th, I remember, yes. Fernando Pollack, he had another audience, okay, before. What happened?
The ATMAT never investigated my complaint about these two violations, okay? And from this time, because I'm a lawyer, I am not an idiot, I made a lot of requests, public information, because I thought that myself, I'm a lawyer, if the Argentinians medicines and regulatory body, they did not investigate this complaint, I need to go to the justice.
Okay, but what's the problem? I'm a criminal lawyer, no? I know how is the, either the criminals, is the instruments or the elements, okay, that prepare the crime, okay?
And what's the problem? If I detect that the clinical trial start in another country like United States, because we have an agreement between the Argentinian state and United States, the jurisdictions begin in United States justice, okay?
Because the either criminals constitute, okay, the elements to start the investigation in another country, okay? I made a complaint to the American justice, okay, the Department of Justice of United States, I send a lot of emails, sorry, with the documents that prove the situation, the audio records, okay?
The complaint that I made to the ATMAT, some elements that perhaps constitute a crime in United States, okay? I did not receive any notification from the Department of Justice from United States, I made a complaint to the buyers, the vaccine adverse effects in United States,
also I made a complaint to the Office of Inspector General in United States. In this request public information that I made to the Ministry of Defense in Argentina, one of the request information I asked to the Ministry of Defense, no?
Will you give me the contract where the military hospital, how they say, rent the establishment or the buildings to the clinical trial and the Ministry of Defense response? We don't have this contract because we described a mutual agreement, a cooperation between one company that
Pfizer subcontract in Argentina that is high trials and represent this company by Fernando Pollack, okay? And it's very funny because we have another part of this contract that represent also Fernando Pollack because he's an investigator of the military hospital that depend on the Ministry of the Defense, okay?
In legal terms, I resume this situation. Fernando Pollack is an investigator from the military hospital, okay? And the Ministry of the Defense contract a company that represent by Fernando Pollack also, okay? Fernando Pollack contract him in another company, okay?
But Fernando Pollack he represent the Ministry of the Defense, okay? In one part and Fernando Pollack he represent a private company in Argentina that is a trials society, no?
His trials, how they say, it's a society, it's a foundation that protect the children's health and I don't know, I think it's a ghost company because we detect with David Healy that his trials company he has, how they say, their legal representation in Panama and in United States and he received in papers, no?
In documents a lot of money but we don't know how can receive this money from a Panama company if this company, it trials in Argentina, no? Represent this clinical trial for this mutual agreement comparison in my country, no?
It's a little strange in the legal terms. After three appeals a lot of requests information because I have a subjective damage, okay? From my health, okay?
The Ministry of the Defense disclassify with the 100% of the mutual agreement cooperation that describes each trials, the society that represent Fernando Pollack and the Ministry of the Defense.
That is very important because I made a lot of explanations in the mainstreams, in the social media about these regulations in Argentina, no?
In these papers, in this document you will read a stamp that say this is only for military personnel and it's only for the Argentinians force, okay?
This document is secret but by regulation that is ROD 1188, I don't remember now because it's a regulatory that, how they say, it's a stamp when you have a military secret or secret of state in Argentina that you put in the document that is not public for all the population, okay?
This is the first contract that the societies on the West can access by my job because I have a subjective damage and I'm a lawyer and I need this documentation to know who have the civil responsibility in my damage, okay?
This is really simple the question but I need this document or this contract to present in the civil justice in Argentina or in the United States, okay?
But what happened? In the Argentinian regulation, in the constitutional law, the Argentinian army will, how they say, will...
How would you say, Matilda, to intervene in internal affairs? Will...
For the army.
Internal affairs of the military thing, like internal affairs, right?
Internal affairs or issues, no? Or issues.
The Argentinian army of our constitutional regime, okay, will...
We will use only for the external issues or external affairs, not for internal issues or external affairs, okay?
Because we have a police or we have another force that will, for example, investigate the crimes in Argentina.
We only can use the Argentinian army if we have a war. It's very simple in words.
And we need for the parliament a declaration that say, okay, Argentina, we have a war and we declare the war another state or another, I don't know, terrorist group, okay, that will affect, how they say, the security, the external security from Argentina, okay?
I made a lot of explanation about that in Spanish, in Argentina, in Latin America, because in Argentina we suffer dictatorial governments on the 70, okay?
And our new constitution that we dictate in 94, okay, almost 30 years ago, we put a lot of limits about the Argentinian army affairs in the internals conflicts, okay?
We put a lot of limits and we can use the Argentinian army, for example, if we have an apotheetic conflict that's relationship with bioterrorism or terrorism affairs, no?
And I explained a lot this situation, this legal situation in Argentina, but what happened?
In Argentina, this mutual agreement cooperation that we subscribe between the company that subcontract Pfizer, that trials society and the Ministry of the Defense is a trimmed contract that, for example, United States or France or another state subscribe.
Why? Because this clinical trial are random, how do you say it, Matilda? Are they randomized in English?
Randomized.
Randomized, okay? Why? Because in Argentina we had 35 years ago an institution that analyzed the medicines and food that we import from outside, that it was Dirección Nacional de Química, it was a national direction in Argentina,
that study all over the products that we import, medicine products that we import from United States, for example, and from this time when we dissolve this institution, Argentina subscribe a mutual agreement cooperation or agreements with the FDA between the ACMA and the FDA.
And we said, okay, we don't need this institution, this institution to analyst these products because we only check the documentation that we receive from another institution that regularly that, how do you say that, analyst the food and medicines like the FDA in United States or the MHAs from United Kingdom, for example.
Okay, and it's not necessary from Argentina to have this institution. Why? Because it's okay, we receive this documentation from another countries in the world wide and we can certificate the components of these medicines or of this food.
Okay? And this is the reason that if Argentina subscribe this mutual agreement cooperation with Pfizer, it's like United States subscribe the same mutual agreement cooperation between a company that should contract Pfizer by the clinical trial where it's conjucted in United States that controlled the FDA and the Ministry of the Defense in United States.
Okay. You're saying that because Argentina didn't have the chemical, because we didn't have that institution to check the vials. That's why Argentina was able to do the biggest trial here in Argentina because you only needed here in Argentina the approval of the FDA. That's what you're saying.
Of course, because in the random inside, sorry, clinical trials, Argentina only could subscribe or could translate the contracts that United States government sent to the FDA in Argentina.
Yes, it's clear. We didn't have the association or whatever to check what they say. We just get what they approved and we have it. Okay.
Yes, yes, because it's impossible for us to check how they say in the one institution that control how they say the content of these products, the vials, for example, or another medicines.
Okay, like like the oncologist medicine for these people. Okay, because we can only check the documentation and we can only check, for example, the translation that the United States government sent to the Argentinians government.
Okay, we can check this documentation by the at-mat resolutions that they dictate in 2017. That was the last agreement that the at-mat described with the FDA, but I can send resolution that is public.
Okay. This is the situation that they explain this this conflict. Okay. In Argentina and spread to the world. Why? Why? Because in all of our countries, these contracts are secrets because are the military secrets.
Okay. And my question, it was how many people will access of these contracts because it's not the only one contract that I have in my hand. Okay. I have a lot of contracts.
Okay. In my computer. But I think that this is the most important contract that I would show at the population because the Pfizer vaccine, it was the most pharmaceutical that sold a lot of vaccine in the worldwide, no millions and millions and millions.
But it was starting another contracts with another pharmaceuticals. This is the reason that they have now a lot of problems with the Russians investigators because in Argentina, we bought a lot of vaccines, million vaccine from Sputnik B.
I don't know. Perhaps the people don't know, but we have a lot of propaganda from the Russian governments, known in social media, and perhaps they will put that the Pfizer is bad and this Sputnik is good and Sinopharm is good and Moderna is bad.
No, in the clinical trial, we detect in Argentina a lot of problems that affect the security of the medicine. I show and I send this contract that I have the international certification by the apostigue of the Hague.
Okay. And it's constitute the first military contract that is public for all the population of for all the people in the world. Why? Okay. I'm a lawyer. And if I want to present, for example, this contract, okay.
In the Argentinian school or United States court, I could present and I will present conflict hypothesis of conflict. No. Why?
Because in Argentina, I explained that we limit the, how to say, the issues or the affairs to the internal conflicts to use the Argentinian army. Okay.
But what happened? I asked to the parliament or to the Congress in Argentina. If this the parliamentarist received any information for this operation in the Argentinians territory inside my country, because I explained that we need an authorization from the parliament to make an operation inside Argentina and use the Argentinians army.
Okay. I did not receive any communication from the parliament official communication, but was wonderful because my case now is in the constitutional affairs in the parliament, in the Congress.
And then they sent a request for an open an investigation to open in the audit body that depend on the parliament. And why? Because I asked to me or ask myself this question. Why the parliament, parliament, sorry, or the parliamentarist sent a notification to the Argentinians audit body that depend on the parliament to open an investigation.
Because we don't detect or we did not detect an authorization from the parliament to use the Argentinians army in an internal conflict. And my question, my second question is what conflict the Argentinian state have?
Okay, that the that we use an Argentinian army to an internal conflict. And my hypothesis response.
Where we live by a terrorist attack, or we live a war that we don't know, or we did we did not know who was or who is the enemy. Okay. And it's very hard, the situation.
Because if we want to, to subscribe a mutual agreement cooperation in a clinical trial, we have a human health service in Argentina is that the Ministry of the health in Argentina that represent Carla Vissotti, she's a minister, she's a minister, sorry, of this institution.
And she could subscribe this contract, but from the Ministry of the health affair. Okay, but was not the situation.
I want to tell and explain the situation because a lot of investigators in the last months, they explain the exactly explanation that I did on the mainstream, but without documents that they did not show the population.
Okay, and they receive a lot of likes and shares in the on the social media and cover up my proof that is public for all the population know that they can check the contract in Argentina.
Okay, but they change for example some words, and to say, Argentina, but the United States, and we suffer, or is a very big plane for a bio weapon. Okay.
Okay, with the Ministry of the defense, but they did not show the documents or the contracts that prove the relationship between Pfizer, for example, in my case, and the Ministry of the defense.
Okay, I don't know why.
But I'm lawyer.
When you want present when you want to present sorry a case on the court.
You should complain.
The healthy criticisms, or the sounds criticisms.
This is a legal system to prove to present the evidence story in court. Okay.
The documents that you can present in a court is a public instruments that show the presence of the prescriptions of the legitimacy. Okay.
For example, I'm a criminal, a criminal or she. Okay.
Okay.
You do have the suspect, okay, that have guns that sorry has gone sorry.
Bones.
Nice, and the elements that perhaps constitute okay.
Okay, and a session.
But what happened.
We need a proof that these guns, or this is nice. Okay.
Put in the body and create an assertion. Okay, great. Sorry.
Right now, cause the death. Okay, it's very simple. This is the instruments of the either creaminess. Okay.
But what happened.
Some investigators analyst, a lot of documents that is how they say it's amazing for me, because I will read a lot of regulations on law in the United States that will present this relationship, but could not prove.
Because you need a document that show the presumption of the legitimacy that prove the relationship between between a private company and the state and the company is
A company that's subcontract Pfizer in Argentina's case is Fernando Pollack is a trials under the other part, because it's a bilateral state in the Spanish is bilateral is it in the contracts, you have only two parts, okay, in Argentina, and the Ministry of the defense.
If you have a Ministry of the defense in Argentina, a first in the critical trial.
You have another division. Okay.
That will have this will know in the clinical trial in Argentina's army, you have a counter intelligence, and you have an intelligence divisions that will control the clinical trial.
You have a how they say in the in the big chapter. Okay. In the Ministry of the defense in Argentina, you have the Argentinians army, you have a 10 divisions.
Two of them are counter intelligence and intelligence division. Okay.
And it's very, it's very hard this situation because we detect in Argentina, for example, some debts that they cover up.
And our questions with David Healy in our investigation.
Why these people cover up this debt, or how these people cover up this debt.
Through a military operation was not really complicated this response. If you have a contract that proof, the relationship between a Ministry of the defense and the private company like Pfizer in a clinical trial, where it conduct in the military hospital.
In your face in your eyes, you have a military operation. But what's the difference between my discourse or another investigation investigator discourse that they have a proof.
And I have any documents with any international certification that proof the relationship within between a private company and the Ministry of the defense. Okay.
Another discourse that the investigators tells in the press. So sorry, but I don't want to create a conflict.
But perhaps they have another intention that is to cover up this proof, or this evidence. Okay.
Because perhaps these people they can't open a debate, a big debate from these documents know, and I, how to say, I need a debate, I need open a debate from these documents because I need to do to make a lot of requests, public information in Argentina about my case.
And I need to do a lot of questions, a lot of questions because some people some investigator they made a lot of mistakes when they are analysts, when they study okay DC this legal situation, for example.
And I consider that this is the reason that the fact checkers that we know know that the fact checkers perhaps the pharmaceutical put a lot of money no, but they, they, they study every time.
If we, we did a little mistake to put okay or investigation or put a stamp that is fake news. But in this situation, I consider that the fact checkers, they're right.
Okay, because this investigator, they should not, they, they could not show the documents that they have in my hands. It was not really difficult if these investigators asked to me Augusto, will you give me the documents because we started the relationship between the Ministry of the Defense in the United States.
And with these private companies, I will send, I don't have any problem because this is the reason that I made this investigation, because my reason it was to help the people to help the victims and to stop these contracts because are illegally in United States and in Argentina, because in the constitutional order, they should not subscribe these contracts with a mutual agreement cooperation between the private companies.
Okay, in the clinical trials and the Ministry of the Defense. Perhaps they could make a lot of factories or open factories to produce these vaccines. Okay, but they could not open a clinical trial because the legislation do not permit in Argentina and the United States because we have a convention that perhaps in the United States and in Argentina is not mandatory.
Okay, but it's a guide is a health and since Helsinki Convention. Okay. Okay, this is a resume of my case, and perhaps Charles or Stephen because I don't understand how it's possible to assume to public these documents, but perhaps the people will know about the documents that I sent to you.
Well, do you have the documents on your screen Augusto.
Okay, because I will not want to check so sorry.
In what
will let you off.
I am.
If I want to, how to say to
get it up on your screen, and then
he's on the phone, maybe on the phone I don't know how it works. Maybe you should do it in your computer.
Oh, my peter, the next Sunday email.
No, then it's just
I, boy, but I will not go to compartir and tons of other man the document does.
I share them.
Would you wait me one minute or Stephen, because this is my
Matilda and she can share them.
Yeah, very good.
Another experience.
This is a very big bomb.
This is the only one documents that showing the first for the first time.
Of course, though, if you're a criminal lawyer, these days.
You maybe need to brush up your understanding of computers but I'm not very good ones to talk. I don't want to understand them.
So, most crimes involve computers these days that's what I meant. So criminal lawyer maybe should know.
Yes, yes, I sent to you, my daughter, this is the most important document.
And I don't want to try to make that.
She'll be here in a moment, she's
she's fallen off.
Oh no, I'm here. I'm here.
I see yes. I'm waiting for the email.
What's up.
No, what's up no money.
I so sorry.
By email because my WhatsApp I am on my phone and I'm not in my phone my facility no matter what email, Emily email.
I'm going to send a copy.
Tell the how long do Argentinian emails take.
Oh, that's a good question.
Maybe a week now.
I'm joking.
That's it.
I'm being sent in.
It's important to show the moment because you have before and after the
recommendation.
Of course, you're breaking up the moment. Why are you breaking up.
I will talk is the one that you sent to Stephen, the first time like on email.
You send them to him. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. So I have them.
Okay.
Okay, when I will share your I will share my screen.
Yeah.
You tell me.
Is this one.
Let's see.
So sorry. Yes. Yes. Yes. This is the document. Yes.
Passing it.
If you want to go through it when it says a military public stamp.
Let's see. Ah, it's down below.
Okay.
There it is. There it is.
This is a lot of agreement cooperation that is in Spanish.
Between.
Do you want to read it, Matilda?
No, because it's in Spanish.
Convenient.
Cooperation between the military hospital and each trials society.
Okay.
But I'm not home but I'm not home down down.
So have you researched to who heads that that trials society in inverted commas.
Yeah.
So,
But for now, the polack is investigator from the ministry hospital.
And he represents another society.
Is he a minute.
Is he a medical doctor.
Yes.
From the military hospital.
So he knows.
So purportedly he knows about medical ethics. Yes.
Yes.
His diagnosis from my acute, acute pericarditis.
It was that I suffer a psychic, a psychiatric illness.
Okay.
You are crazy.
Yes.
Psychiatric illness. Psychiatric illness.
Psychiatric illness.
And he's pediatrician and effectologist.
He's not a psychologist or a psychiatrist.
I understand.
Yes. Yes.
He he we detect another violation of medical protocol.
No, in the critical trial in the biological protocol.
From the medicine regulation.
This is what you mean.
Yes. Yes.
Look at.
I only say political military.
So, yes, this is really this page is really important because you will read this only is original.
Okay.
Document.
Advertisement.
Warning.
Okay.
Warning.
This this this document is only for the military personnel.
This this document is secret.
But this was this regulation that is R.O.D. 1102.
Article three thousand and thirteen.
See.
This is the key.
So, is this a classified document or not?
Sorry.
It is classified.
Public.
Now it's public.
And now it's public because I made three appeals because I suffer a subjective damage because if I do, how do you say, if I am not a victim, I will not access this document.
I understand.
So if you're a victim, does that mean you would have access in the courts to to top secret information as well as?
Yes.
I guess I access a lot of secret information.
Yes.
But I talk about not just secret, but very secret.
Now it's not secret, but I access because I compliment to the Argentine regulations and law.
Okay.
This is the difference between between another people that say, okay, I have a secret.
The question the question was trying to establish whether you have access to all secret documents in Argentina if you're a victim or just some of them, which are not so secret.
Yes.
But they're not high top secrets.
Do you understand?
Can you?
Yes, I understood.
It was top secret.
It was.
All right.
So does that mean so I'm asking a general point.
Does that mean you have access to all top top secrets information information if you are a victim and you are a victim of that clinical trial which the military were running?
Yes.
It was this situation.
I mean, I'm a lawyer and I have to license, okay, to present this request.
You have to ask for the request and they are they are obliged to give it to you.
Like they have to give it to give it give you the information like.
So listen carefully now Augusto and help Matilde if you think that he hasn't understood.
So, so are you saying that Augusto that in Argentina because of the past history of military dictatorships and in South America in general.
Look, special laws were brought in in the 1990s to stop the military conducting a military operation within Argentina without an identifiable state enemy.
Is that correct?
It is.
It was.
So your question to your own government and to the military is how on earth was the military of Argentina coming to a private to an agreement with a foreign company.
Yes, working closely with the US government.
And yes, they can't answer that presumably.
Yes, yes.
And I now I'm looking for the document that show or that prove my hypothesis.
No, because I'm a lawyer.
If I want to go with to the court, I need to present the document that show this perception of the legitimacy.
Okay, I need the other document that show.
Okay, this is the conflict is the Argentinians conflict.
And this is the reason that we choose the military hospital or we choose this legal instrument to subscribe a mutual agreement operation.
So, so essentially what you're saying is that it violated the Constitution.
Yes, like that the military was working with the United States, by the look of it.
And the military shouldn't.
They were also active in Argentina, and they shouldn't be active in Argentina.
If there was no war with a foreign state, correct?
That's correct.
You need an authorization from the Parliament.
So, have you made that allegation to the authorities in Argentina or not?
With the same allegation that I tell you now.
This operation was not authorized by the Parliament because I sent a request public information that is in the Constitutional Affairs from the Parliament.
And then the Constitutional Affairs and me, we sent a request to the Argentinians audit audit that depend on the Parliament to open an investigation because we detect an enormous irregularity, irregularities, sorry, in the clinical trial and in this contract.
Yeah, so whatever they were doing Augusto, it seems clear to me that your country has had treason practiced against it in a different way from the rest of the world, but still treason.
It's treason.
It's treason. Yes, but what happened?
I detect 600 mutual agreement cooperation that my country described from 2004, 18 years ago.
And, you know, and before this pandemic, Argentina subscribe a hundred mutual agreement cooperation with the pharmaceuticals.
We're conducting the clinical trial in the military hospital was not the first time.
This is the situation.
That's what we were chosen. That's why why Pfizer chose us to do the biggest trial in the world.
Yes, prior to the rollout prior to the rollout in the face 123 whatever.
So to Pfizer, it was very important, or possibly we don't know.
No, no, because Argentina subscribe another mutual cooperation with another pharmaceuticals like the Russian and Chinese.
Yes, but what happened is really, I think that my life is in risk now because it's just I made a simple questions.
How many mutual agreement cooperation subscribe the Ministry of the Defense and the pharmaceuticals from 2004 to now?
And they respond to me. They respond to me a lot of mutual agreement cooperation.
This is the reason that it was not the first time.
Okay. In Argentina, we have a very big field with the military operations from the world from the worldwide in my country.
Okay. From the United States, from Russia, from China.
Okay. It's a very strange mix operations that the military they did in my country.
Yes, Augusto, we have writers on the call.
There's at least one who's extremely good writer.
And, you know, you may be lucky and someone might want to write about this.
Thank you. Thank you very much.
Yes, yes, I need just the people to understand that in this investigation in Argentina, because I'm a lawyer, I'm alone.
Okay, because the people don't understand because it's really complicated.
So where are your colleagues? Are they helping you? Any of them?
No, I'm alone. Like a lawyer, I'm alone. In this investigation, I'm alone.
Then I have another opinions investigation from the vaccines in general.
But in this investigation, in the clinical trial in the Ministry of the Defense in Argentina,
I am alone. But Mattel cooperates with me, for example, from analysts, some documents.
But in the United States, for example, or in Canada, I have a cooperation with David Healy and Peter Seeley that he they are my support.
No, in the worldwide. But I suffer a lot of persecution when I disclassify these documents because a lot of channels TV or mainstream or journalists,
they they made a lot of pressure. Okay.
At my at my investigation, because, okay, I was to subscribe a contract to show this this document.
No, I don't I don't need to subscribe a contract to show this document because the public is a public instrument now because I just classify.
But okay, I understand to you because I am a victim and I have a subjective damage of my health.
And if you if you if you will present this document on the media, the people will will ask you, how do you receive this document?
And perhaps you should present my history now and you have a critical record in my history.
I understood. Okay. But I did not understand this aspiration from a lot of journalists from the principles channels TV in the worldwide from the other states, Europe.
Argentina also to present this document with this this this expression.
I don't know why. I understand. But I need how to say more time to investigate the others 500 or 600 mutual agreement cooperation that we describe in Argentina to present the all over the documents.
Because perhaps we cover up. Okay. In this this this aspiration, we can cover up another important documentation that is that have a perception of the legitimacy.
Okay. And perhaps I think that this is the how to say this is the point from a lot of journalists or channels TV that they want to cover up the the others mutual agreement cooperation that the countries or Argentina subscribe in the worldwide.
So, Augusto, why do you think they're attacking you? And why do you think no one is helping you? Have you worked out why that is?
Because when you put your finger in the military contracts, the counterintelligence or the intelligence divisions will persecute to you.
I suffer some situation that of course is trace. So so it's no surprise that they're attacking you. Everyone's attacking you because no, you're a victim. You're determined to get to the truth.
I think you're the type of person anyway. Well, I don't know how you were before unless the injection has effect or injections. You had to, didn't you?
Yes. So so but I think that maybe you are the type of person I'm the same who wanders into fields of danger without even realizing it.
But you're very dangerous because you seek the truth wherever you go. And I think you did that before you got these shots.
So, yes, but I think I can put you in touch with lawyers in America and around the world who would be happy to assist you because I don't think you're going to get much help within Argentina.
In Argentina is very difficult. This country I work in the justice. I am the official from the high court in my country. No, I have a good position, perhaps permit to ask to the Ministry of the Defense.
Will you show me this documentation because I can to present a demand to the Ministry of the Defense. Okay. And it's a very good demand. Okay.
Very good case because I have the license to present here. No, but I want to how to say to fight to the press operation that the so sorry for for say that no, because I felt and I have my work in this in this area was insane.
Okay, because I am the only one person that is classified the military contracts in the worldwide. Okay. You should not.
The big question here is why on earth was Pfizer and the United States government possibly why on earth were they conducting clinical trials in Argentina.
What was that about? Why Argentina?
Because we have a corrupt country.
I will explain better than me.
I have been always like a lab rat lab for for medical industry and trials like from a
Yeah, we are like the gay gay.
We are a branch of the United States and a desk of all the world's pharmaceutical companies.
Yes. Yeah, yeah.
By the by the US and by the pharmaceutical industry to make lots of trials like from years ago.
I think because we had maybe what I was to say that we don't have the the the the to check the vials like we have an agreement with the FDA and NHS and so we just it's all papers like we don't check anything because we are like an easy country for them.
And Augusto, do you think if it were the case that the United States government was involved in collaborating with the Argentinian government with the Argentinian people be happy or unhappy unhappy because we suffer a lot of I don't know.
You know, sessions in the in the dictatorial governments on the 70 and we suffer in English is Falkland Islands war.
Like I'm a Venus.
We, we have, how to say a sad.
I don't see you in the world or Matilda like to be that.
That it was very sad for us and very difficult that military thing that the the the the the dictator.
The human rights.
Yes, yes, they are criminals. Yes.
But people here at Argentina, trust the US like in general, like, trust the people.
Everybody looks it looks up there like they want to be like that.
But not with the militaries, but not with the Argentinians militaries.
No, exactly.
No.
Has anybody else got any questions they'd like to ask.
Well, let them think about it. Charles have you got any questions.
Yes.
Augusto.
What's your sense of because you're working at the High Court.
What's your sense of how, how corrupt or how politicized, let's make this easier, how politicized the judicial system is in Argentina.
I have a strange sensation from this question.
But you should think that in Argentina we call access for all over the military contracts and in the United States will be impossible.
Will be, but not now, because you could present my this military contract that's certified by the apostate of the Hague.
OK, in the United States, and you will access from the same military contract in the United States if you want to access.
OK, because you know, you know now the regulations of these contracts and you will ask for the twin contract.
OK, in the United States.
In Argentina, we know that we will, we will have justice for a big investigation here because if the Ministry of the Defense.
They gave to me these contracts.
OK, it's because they did not want to use the military force in the internals issues or affairs.
OK, they knew that it's beginning a big investigation because I start an investigation from the audit body that depend on the parliament.
And another case in the parliament.
Now they are involved in an investigation and administrative investigation that in the near future or in the close future.
OK, will be a big investigation in the justice in my country.
OK, and in Argentina, we will stay in another in the balance.
OK, we stay in another level.
We are here now.
So sorry for this this this compress, how to say this comparison, this compression and you just say justice is here.
Because we will open or we will have a debate in the parliaments from my case or from this irregularities in Argentina soon.
And in the United States, no, when I read the news, I read smoke, smoke, smoke, smoke, but not facts, not facts.
This contract is certified by international certification.
OK, it's a it's a document that showed the prescription of the legitimacy in the United States, in Russia, in France, in Brazil.
OK, for in the worldwide that subscribe the apostique of the Hague agreement.
OK, it's a fact.
OK, the investigation in the Congress in Argentina is a fact.
The investigation in the audit body is the fact.
And this is the reason that perhaps not now, because the justice is really slow in my country.
I know the process.
But in my mind, I see a little a little a little door that will open, but we don't know when.
OK, this is perhaps my my view of this conflict in Argentina.
We we we we are a little more advanced than other countries in this investigation in the parliament and in the audit body.
OK, because I asked for the same questions to the United States Congress and perhaps the senator Ron Johnson or perhaps another parliamentary in United States.
They are investigating now this case, but no, the institution open an investigation like my case.
OK, yeah, I don't know why.
I can't explain because I live here in Argentina and this is my reality.
No, but I use all over the instrument that I have in my hands.
Very good. I understand that Carrie has put into the chat Augusto that that they need if you read the chat.
Carrie, you said there that you need a Argentinian criminal lawyer on your international law team.
Can you send a direct message to Augusto or Carrie, do you want to say anything about that or just send Augusto?
So can you say that Augusto at sorry?
Carrie says we need an Argentinian criminal lawyer on our international law team.
That could be you. Yes, will be because Carrie Carrie will send you a message.
So say, do you know, do you know how to save the chat?
Or Carrie, we will give you Carrie said Carrie get Stephen to put you in touch with Augusto.
All right. Now, what we will do now, if we don't, for those who have questions in due course, but we have an opportunity for announcements and Andy Slade.
I have a question. Do you want to raise now?
I guess it's very relevant.
What you emailed to me, that's up to you if you wish on this space here for you to raise that matter, Andy.
You muted Andy if you're trying to speak.
And thank you. Thank you everybody for putting the.
Hello, Andy. I think he's in.
Hello.
There's Andy. Hello. Yep. Yeah.
We can hear you Andy go.
Andy, you can't hear me turn your mic turn your speakers up or put your microphones. I can't hear you.
You haven't got microphone.
Two minutes.
Anyone else. Now the other issue I wanted to bring to your attention while you are all here is with a number of us.
Well, I was contacted as well as Todd, a calendar and leave late on the issue.
Just keep your eyes peeled for the threat of Marburg coming everybody that's predicted to be the next scam.
Get everyone terrified about Marburg because the who is getting more desperate.
So keep your eyes posted and push back.
And the strategy, one of the strategies to use would be like monkeypox to make fun of it.
So that's so Andy, can you talk now?
No, I can't hear you.
What happens in monkeypox, Charles?
Monkeypox was laughed out of the out of the public square.
Everybody started making fun of monkeypox.
It disappeared. We must make fun of Marburg.
Because they want.
Here we go.
Andy.
You know.
Yes.
Yep. Good man.
Coming in from outer space.
Yeah, the email I sent to Charles was in respect of information from yesterday, which was to the effect that the United States is preparing for war in the form of specifically ammunition being ramped up that once it just from one side of the report from.
Okay, Andy. So, Andy, you've got credible information just make it really clear to people and this is relevant to for your own preparation we come together in these meetings to be receiving information to share information and to help us be prepared for whatever is coming so Andy say that.
So you have good information about us preparations for.
Yeah, I mean all outside that the source.
Send the tech to somebody I know in the States and the text that they are schooling up the World War Three.
That's pretty clear.
I mean, aside from all the other things that are going on.
Okay.
All right. So thank you. Thank you, Andy.
And it's a relevant piece of information everybody all right who else has an announcement to make a event to talk about or a problem to solve going to many we've all got problems. Who's got a problem.
Excellent.
Excellent. That's wonderful. We have an early will have an early night everybody. This is a wonderful thing.
What are they. So Sarah they're Sarah they're as Andy information that Andy has is their stockpiling weapons, although the information that I have received is that the US ability to to from this was from Major General Paul the Lely was that the Americans have sent so many
weapons to Ukraine $118 billion to quote that their ability to have weapons so the availability of weapons in America is significantly limited. So that was the information that Paul the Lely shared with us Andy.
Yeah, the, I mean the overall context is, I mean, you can take it or leave it the plan that I know, as far as I'm concerned, the plan is to roll over the US.
And this is a long plan. Obviously it's a long plan thing that's not just spontaneous.
Who's going to roll over the US Andy.
So rather than what information I've got is the Russian have been there since 2012 in the form of their spetsnaz on the ground. And that's with the US government consent.
There's the Chinese are a part of it. You can see that the all American troops are not at home.
And all and everybody send in their equipment to be scrapped in Ukraine.
Their equipment can be scrapped.
Whose equipment, the Russians.
All the know everything that we're standing the Russians have 7500 tanks that they scrapped.
They've been they've already been put on the battlefield. So what, so all the all the countries that are giving him tanks, I mean Ukraine or on as far as I know they're on the verge of collapse.
So they're not receiving the military aid in inverted commas know what they are they are getting the aid. I mean the tanks who's getting it the Russians or the Ukrainians know the Ukrainians.
All the stuff that's supposed to be going to Ukraine is ending up being taken out of the battlefield.
They say to Russian to report in seven and a half thousand tanks. So even if they send another 300 500 it wouldn't matter.
Well, it wouldn't matter anyway because you got Ukraine against Russia.
They never know. This is a very relevant conversation.
But because it's late for Augusto what I want to do is to thank Augusto for your presentation.
The digging that you have done is very relevant and we'll let Augusto go to bed.
We'll have another any other conversation but Augusto you're the formal obligations on you to answer questions so you can go whenever but we're not late in Argentina.
No, it's not late in Argentina. But I want to to public these these documents to how they say to open a debate from this group for example.
And please Stephen I have to resize to to send the international certification document that apostique of the Hague.
OK, that includes this document because it's really relevant from for this group.
OK, for the is this investigatory investigators to access the first time to this contracts like that.
OK, for me it's really important because we need to know about these contracts.
OK, because we can introduce of the legal system in the United States.
This is the only one how to say way that we have to ask to the FOIA.
Will you give me these documents this contract because we know that it was a mutual agreement cooperation between one company in United States and the Ministry of Defense.
We know because in Argentina we have this contract.
OK, and the clinical trials are randomized.
OK, and we know that this was this contract.
Very, very good because that's what we can put.
Sorry, we can put you in touch with lawyers around the world and you probably get more help from lawyers in other countries than from lawyers in your own country by the sound of it.
Yes, I will send my presentation, for example, that you will choose some details because it's logical in Argentina.
We have one legislation, one law, one relation, one constitution.
And for example, in another country, they have they have another they they have another regulations of a traditional system.
OK, and you will change this presentation and to present in the FOIA, for example, in Hungary, in Spain, in Portugal, United Kingdom, in the United States, because in all of the countries that were
were conduced this clinical trial by the Pfizer vaccine, COVID-19, if we will really clear of all this affirmation, we have the proof that this contract were conduced with the Ministry of Defense because we have the proof.
OK, because another investigators this put this regulation, this regulation, this regulation.
OK, but they not they don't can't.
Sorry, they could not prove the document that that prove the relationship.
OK, the contract.
This is really important because we can access for another contracts in the worldwide were conduced this this this critical trial.
OK, yes.
There's someone in the chat.
I can't remember who now said that that Argentina, sorry, Argentina was mentioned in 2020 in the UK.
And it was explained that the clinical trial which they admitted was taking place in Argentina was taking place there because there was.
But hang on a minute. The person in the chat said there was more COVID in in.
Yes, that's right. So in 2020. Yes, there was more COVID in Argentina than in the UK or wherever it was.
So it looks like they're definitely trying to cover up for what they were doing in Argentina.
So I think we need to dig more there because it could provide evidence which will speed the downfall of these miscreants worldwide.
I'm talking about. So we I think we should we should always explore every avenue which presents itself to us.
Your Avenue has presented itself to us now.
We can't just think, oh, it's too much trouble because that might be the route that will lead quickest to the downfall of these idiots.
I hope that you understand.
Well, the more more accurately what Augusto has discovered is that it's probable that almost every country has a similar structure of documents and we should ask for those documents, Stephen.
Exactly. Yes, exactly.
So we should work out. We don't have to dig in Argentina.
We dig in our own countries so that we need to understand what's happening.
We need to understand fully what we should not say.
We should not say this is a bioweapon.
This is a war. Okay.
Because the journalists, the fact checkers and the authorities say, show me the documents or question or question will will be show me this mutual agreement cooperation.
So we need to get to the bottom of what has happened in Argentina, which was so important that they had to violate the Constitution unknown to the public.
I'm just going to show you.
And then we need to work out.
We need to work out exactly what's happened in Argentina in that theater, if you like.
And then we need to work out the relevance of that for the rest of the world.
Argentina is the how to say is the is the how to say.
How do you say it?
Hi, Matilda.
Charles, I think Andy wants to say something.
Argentina is the mirror in another country.
Okay.
Of course.
Well, we don't know yet.
But yes, it could be the weak link, which could provide us with a lot of answers.
Yes, exactly what's happened in.
But what's interesting about Argentina is because of its history, they brought in laws, the government brought in laws to stop the military being involved in politics in Argentina.
And so they could only be active if there was a declaration of war against a foreign state.
There is no declaration of war against a foreign state.
So why is the Argentinian military active in the covid response?
I don't know, but you should think that.
No, no, no.
But that's what we need to find out.
Yes.
No, no, no. But you should think that it's really it's really huge.
Huge, this problem.
But this is enormous because in Argentina we were in the history.
We had the third position in the first in the first war in the second war in the Vietnam War, Korean War, for example.
We were neutral all over the time.
Less the Falkland Islands know that we suffer this conflict by the dictatorial government.
The only war the only one war that we suffer occur during the dictatorial government.
OK, but you should understand if Argentina subscribe this mutual agreement cooperation with the Argentinians army, perhaps if the war suffer a huge, huge problem that I suspect.
But I don't want to tell the public that my suspicions because I'm investigating now.
I am not like I have to say that say, OK, my suspicion is my true and I tell the public that this is my suspicion and this is the truth.
No, I have a suspicion.
OK, but I need the proof or the evidence to prove in the court.
And this is the document is a presumption that showed the presumption of the lesion mass.
OK, my suspicion, my hypothesis is that that the world suffer by bioterrorism attack.
From whom?
I don't know.
I don't know the documents that I have in my hands that will be 150 and sorry, 1500 page.
I suspect when I study this page that Argentina suffer and hypothesis conflict that involve the bioterrorism attack.
Why? Because we suffer to terrorist attacks.
One of them, it was the Israel embassy.
The second terrorist attack.
It was the Amia.
And three terrorist attacks and the search attack.
It was when some people killed to Nisman attorney that he was investigating the Amia terrorist attack.
OK, in 2015.
OK, seven years ago, I'm a lawyer, a criminal lawyer.
My view when I when I I investigate in these documents is that we suffer by a terrorist attack that we don't know who was the enemy.
But they put OK in Argentina and in the worldwide some portion.
I don't know, because I am not biologist.
I am not science.
I think I'm lawyer and I'm only investigating documents.
OK, but I want to to be really clear.
This is my suspicious.
OK, I can't make this affirmation.
Only I can make that I have a contract that show an military army involved in an internal conflict.
OK, that this is very serious in the Argentinian legislation by the constitutional law.
OK, this is my only affirmation.
I am not like another investigator that is my way.
I can't prove this situation just only I can prove this situation in the legal terms.
OK, I'm a criminal lawyer and I want to be really clear.
OK, of that.
Exactly.
All right. So Andy did have difficulty putting his hand out.
Andy first and John, you want to ask Augusto something, Andy?
Yeah, I just wanted to say, I mean, Augusto is probably not going to get any information.
He's probably not going to get anywhere with this in terms of proof because it's a huge, huge thing.
And they've been very careful.
However, I will encourage you to keep going.
My for me, I mean, you again, you can make it or believe it, whatever.
I knew the pandemic was coming in 2011.
And in September 2016, I got this quote that about to read to you.
It says, when this thing hits where you are, is where you'll stay.
That came from inside the US government.
The guy who gave that report is now dead.
In 2018, I received information from an American source who said that the vaccines were already being made.
And they said that they would less than 10 years like it would result from injection.
That's what you're dealing with.
Thank you, Andy. Yes, I know that's my I mean, I was in danger.
But not now. Why?
Because I can public these documents.
Before, I have a suspicious.
OK, now I have the documents that I can show at the public.
OK, when you show the proof or you show when you show that this documentation to the public,
You are not in danger because the people know that the secret that the Ministry of the Defense cover up.
But not not now.
And it's not necessary to put kill to put in danger of myself.
OK, because the Ministry of Defense opened or disclassified these documents now.
It's just I'm just saying that this is for your own information.
This has been planned for 40, 50 years.
Even if you can't prove it, that's what happens.
Yes, but I'm a criminal lawyer and perhaps I'm in danger now.
I don't know because I am not an specialist in the counterintelligence or intelligence division in the Argentinean army.
And I don't know what these people expect about me.
This is one of the reasons that I am not keeping contact with many people now because many people want about my information about my case.
They receive a lot of pressure about these people, which we need to public that we need to pull it up with this conclusion.
And I said, no, I don't have three sides that OK, because if you put it in the public,
if you put a word on this word, how to say and you make a mistake of this explanation, perhaps you will suffer a persecute about yourself.
And we need to really clear. But what proof or evidence we have in our hands and show at the public.
OK, because I don't I want to to be a confrontative with another person.
But I hear one month ago one person that say I have five hundred documents that are secrets and they didn't and she didn't put on the table these documents.
OK, my question is, was how did she receive these documents?
Because for access at this this contract, for example, I made three appeals to the Argentinians public information to the Ministry of the Defense in my country.
OK, and if you receive military documents that are classified or are top secret, it's because you keep in touch with these these people.
And perhaps the people are not how to say it's not I have a lot of doubts about these people that she confined that she received this information that is top secret, but she can show at the people at the population.
OK, so sorry for this word, but I am trust.
No, I understand. OK, because if you receive this information, it's because you receive from this information from the counterintelligence or from intelligence division.
I complained all over the steps to access this information, but the Argentinians law is not necessary to involve of these two divisions to access this information.
Why? Because of such a damage.
And I think that in my opinion, perhaps the people have another opinion about my case, but I have an internal opinion, substantive, of course, but I am not in danger now.
I was in danger before. Yes, but not now, because this information is public in my country.
The people ask to me every time, Augusto, you discovered the military contracts.
You are the only one person that discovered the military contracts, the contracts in the worldwide.
Why? Because in another files or another case, you have the states or in Italy, for example, for example, the Brooke Jackson's case, the Ministry of Defense confirmed that we have a top secret document that I can show to you.
Okay, in Argentina, they sent to me by email this classified.
Okay. And this is I think that the institutions of my state in Argentina, they put in me a lot of power.
Because I can show this document, I can show the history, but my errors that I made, it was that I spoke with a lot of people that I don't know they filters this information in the last year.
They made a lot of press operation to cover up this documentation because I can't explain why these people cover up this documentation that is really how they say that is really power to prove to show the evidence at the wall that the state subscribe this contracts.
No, I don't know why, but these people should explain.
No, not me. I could not. I would not explain.
Yeah, have a look at the document I've just posted the dossier.
Perfect.
All the patterns, the documents, the history, the development, it's all in there.
Thanks. Excellent. Thanks, Andy. So we're going to John Stone now. Augusto.
John.
You're muted, John.
Hey, Augusto. Thank you very much for your presentation. I think a lot of people are aware of the sort of military background to this the fact that actually
there were, you know, in the US, there were military. We know there were military contracts.
We know that the, the regulators rolled over because they had that they were overridden by the military.
This seems to be as I
John.
You've frozen, John.
Turn your video off, John, and then it might work better.
I think we're going to lose him. You'll come back.
Will you repeat, Sean? So sorry.
Well, yes, sorry. I don't know what you heard.
I was on a practical matter. I just, I mean, we know that we know a lot about the military background to this, of course.
And, you know, people, we, we even had very recent talks on this platform.
But the question, and you probably were at them, but question I was going to ask you, which is a practical one.
Are you in touch with Children's Health Defense?
Yes, yes, yes. They helped me a lot of times. The person, some people also I keep in touch with with with them one year and a half.
This is the reason that I knew, for example, David Healy know that for me, it's a rock star in this investigation.
He's a brilliant doctor. He's a brilliant doctor.
And we made a friendship, no, because it's like my dream in this investigation because I'm a lawyer and he's a doctor.
And when I say or when I make one affirmation, David Healy is the other side say the same, but when the scientific method, not because he's a doctor.
So which country is David Healy in? Sorry, John.
Sorry. So I'm only going to say what I, yeah, so people like Mary Holland at CHD would be up to date with what you know.
Sorry. I'm saying that people, you know, people like Mary Holland, who's chairman of Children's Health Defense, big lawyer, and would be up to date with what you know.
My problem, it was that the people don't believe me about to have these contracts or this documentation.
No, it's very difficult to speak with how to say the stars in this in this in this affair in this issue.
OK, in the United States, I could not have to say say another names.
No, but now the problem that is I am really advanced in Argentina from this case, and I don't have how to say that the other lawyer in the United States to follow up this investigation because my work was really insane.
You should think that I will I will have in my hands the 600 mutual agreement corporations 600 and the people only only know OK, the Minister of Defense informed that is top secret.
Will you will you feel the difference in your state in the public instruments you have?
OK, this is the top secret and the minister, the defense are involved.
And in Argentina, we have a contract that are certified by the apostigue of the Hague and another 600 mutual agreement corporation, another 300 contracts with the pharmaceuticals that we will be with international certification access all over the public.
OK, and it's really difficult to access another lawyer in the United States because I know perhaps it's the ego or not.
I don't know, but I need I need to have another lawyer in the United States to make a big investigation because I have the proof or the evidence for this problem.
I can put you in such a way than American lawyer.
So email me after this call and just remind me what the question is.
Put me in touch with a US lawyer, Stephen.
OK, and I'll do it.
Perfect. Perfect.
I don't know what I won't forget that way.
So if you ask me the question, contact the US lawyer.
I remember.
Perfect. Perfect.
I don't know because Juan Branco post this contract because we know big be careful with an operation press.
So Augusto, which country is sorry, who recommended David Healy?
Or maybe you can't say that.
And my other question is, which country is David Healy operating from?
Unless I think I know.
I think I think he's back in in North Wales at the moment, but I.
David Healy, where David Healy is a British lawyer then?
No, but he is a psychiatrist, didn't he?
Psychiatrist and he's from Ireland and he discovered the big fraud on the 90s from the pro sack.
And he was involved in another cases with GSK, with Pfizer also in another investigations.
But David Healy, he's very enthusiastic with my case because he repeats in his words,
Augusto, you are really insane because you are involved in the military and in the military contracts.
That is was my first time in my investigations because you put you put the point of this conflict.
OK, you're a big team now because you will choice in this time.
What nationality is David Healy?
He's Irish.
Hang on a minute, let's have Augusto speak.
I'm asking Augusto.
Yes.
He's Irish, yes?
He's Irish, yes, yes, from Ireland.
Can you put me in touch with him?
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
No, no problem.
And then I can put him in touch with the American lawyer.
Juan Branco put the contract.
I want to explain this equation because the people repeat out Juan Branco.
We should understand that we have two contracts.
This is really important and I forget to explain, so sorry.
The first contract that the state subscribe with this instrument, with the legal instrument,
mutual agreement cooperation, it's before when the states negotiate the vaccines to purchase.
OK, this is really important because all over the parliaments in the worldwide,
they dictate all to this contract are confidential when they open the negotiations to buy the vaccines.
OK, this is the contract that Juan Branco, I remember, public.
OK.
But what happened in my country?
I am little, how to say, I'm from Argentina and I know the regulations and the law,
but the parliament, they didn't dictate a law to make this contract that my country subscribe in the clinical trial confidential.
OK.
OK, and I put in the table below and I say you dictate this law, but only from the court says the vaccines.
No, for the clinical trials and you should show these contracts.
OK, this is the argument that United States, for example, you put in the table, you should put in the table the clinical trials.
These contracts are not confidential because you did not dictate a law to make confidential this contract.
OK, it's very simple, but you will win for that.
OK, and you will access this contract and you will discover more information if you want.
Because I was speaking with another lawyer in United States.
And what was the response?
Augusto, I don't want to access the clinical trials contract.
I can't explain.
I can't explain because I'm a lawyer, but you can understand me.
Of course I do.
I can understand.
It's clear.
They represent, for example, in the past, the pharmaceuticals or the companies that the pharmaceuticals contract as these companies.
And the lawyers, so sorry for this word, if they have eggs and if they are honest tomorrow, they will they will make a request, public information for these contracts.
OK, it's mandatory.
It's mandatory because they should, the government, they should put this contract on the table.
Why?
Because they are not dictate.
OK, they will.
Sorry, they did not dictate a law to make confidential this contract.
OK, and it's really simple.
The arguments.
OK, yep, got it.
All right, John, are we done with you?
Anyone else?
I mean, I know that David worked fairly closely with Michael Baum, Baum Headland, who's a major CHD lawyer, but
which may be worth bearing in mind, but
Hello?
Hello.
Yeah, we're here.
Yeah, so I know.
And I think I believe that
David is present because he went to Hamilton in Ontario, actually at the beginning of 2020, but I believe he's back in Wales at the moment.
He worked in McMaster University now.
He's the president of the, I don't know how to say in English, but from one of the most important signatures in this university.
OK, of medicine, sorry.
But I want to really clear that we need to all over the institution that investigate the contracts.
I'm not really tired to explain.
It's only for the purchase of these vaccines.
Yeah.
OK, but perhaps are similar, but not.
One thing is the mutual agreement cooperation that the states interchange information by the Ministry of the Defense.
And the question is, why?
Why?
Through a private companies.
Why?
And is different to another contract that the states subscribe with the companies
when they purchase the vaccines.
OK?
Because in the clinical trials, you have the phase two and half, three pharmacovigilance.
OK?
And if you don't investigate and you have legal terms that do not permit the several other effects that will occur during the clinical trial.
You will nullificate the contracts that you subscribe when you purchase the vaccines.
OK?
It's a right principle in Argentina.
OK?
It's in Latin words is vicio de nullitatem ad initium.
OK?
You will nullify nullificate the contract, begin the first act when you negotiate with this private company.
OK?
I think that this is the reason that the clinical trials contracts are really important and we should investigate in this way.
And if these people put the investigation in another way, we know what happened.
The counterintelligence and the intelligence division will be involved in this investigation.
And we should be smart.
OK?
We should be smart.
And if we need work alone, no problem.
No problem because a lot of people will make a pressure at you.
OK?
We go for a walk soon.
OK?
Very good.
So I don't know where Charles is.
But so, John, have you finished?
John?
Yes, I'm here.
Yeah, OK.
Yeah, sure.
OK.
We've got John Goss now.
Thank you, John Stone.
Hi.
I read an article last night from a blog about two papers that I put it in the chat that Mark Skidmore and Denis Rancourt had published.
These papers have really, they've really had a tough time getting to market.
And one of them, the second one, was only published last week on Thursday, I think.
And I put it up on the blog and somebody left a comment that it was inaccessible.
And so I got in touch with Denis Rancourt and he got back to me to say that they pulled it.
So even though it's based on government figures, even though it's based on the authorities own, you know, the medical authorities own publications of statistics,
it's been pulled because it shows that people are dying from these clock shots.
And we really must do something about it.
But I reckon that because the truth is beginning to get out, this is why the options become more than it could well be.
I would not be surprised.
It could be because if you should think that what will happen if we can prove that, for example, the United States, Turkey, Brazil, they are involved, the military force in the internal conflict, in the FAMACO business, in the clinical trial, in the FH1 health and trade.
OK, the Ministry of Defense or the international armies, they don't have an institutions that control the several other effects for the participants.
Because they are not preparing for this conflict.
They are preparing for the war.
OK, and their tanks, they have army, they have bombs, they have rockets, they have aircraft.
They have aircraft, OK, but they don't have institutions that control the health participants.
OK, and if we were or if we are now in the international conflict, like a bioturism or like a war, OK, the counterintelligence or the intelligence divisions in the in these states will put another
documentation to the Ministry of the Health and Human Services, for example, in the United States and say we don't have that.
We don't have several other effects.
Why?
Because in operation war is legal.
Don't forget this war.
It's legal.
It's not illegal.
OK.
OK, this is the reason that I'm looking for this document that declare our bioturism attack or a war that we don't know the enemy in Argentina.
OK, because I want to investigate if the military operation, it was legal or it was illegal.
OK, no, I know it's a cliche, but the first victim of war is the truth, which means that we've been at war for some long years.
Yes, but don't forget.
But if if the if, for example, in my country, the Ministry of Defense sent to me a document that OK, Augusto, we live a war.
I don't know. This is an example, please.
OK, this is an example that doesn't exist.
OK, the Iranians terrorists attack with a virus or patoshan in Argentina.
OK, and they put in the Buenos Aires Center this virus and spread all over the people.
OK, and in Argentina, the army, there's a great commission to investigate that.
And then they put a lot of money or instruments to make a vaccine for that.
OK, this is an example.
OK, doesn't exist because I don't have the documentation.
This is a show, for example, in Argentina will be legal.
But legal for what?
If we have a communication from the parliament and the Argentinian state, the president notified to the president, the parliament president, OK, and say we suffered the situation in a document.
OK, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
We need a secret authorization to pose secret authorization.
And then we need these instruments to create the weapon to fight with this virus.
OK, because we did an enemy.
And in this investigation, when we create a big investigation, we we we are we and we found we went through when we will find the authors of this crime.
We will public at the population that we knew what what happened in this time.
OK, but in this in this lapsus time, we can't show or we we can't public the situation at the population because we will create a panic.
OK, at the population.
And this is that is really complicated to explain in the United States because I don't have another lawyer.
Because I didn't find a lawyer that that want to make the same request public information to the FOIA.
But I could not explain that the lawyers in the United States will explain at the population.
That's why. OK, but I think this is my opinion.
Perhaps I I I I'm wrong.
OK, but my suspicions, I suspect that some lawyers in the state or some people in the state, they won't cover up the military contracts in the critical trials.
OK, but we need this critical trials.
They need these contracts. OK, because it's these contracts.
We will we will looking for.
OK, the truth about this pandemic.
Why? Because in some documents that I have in Argentina that I can to public know for that, I don't want because I don't want to create a panic.
OK, because I know I need another documents that prove all over the evidence.
If the fact one fact, OK, I am I want I want to be responsible of that.
But perhaps in the United States documents, the officials of the Minister of Defense, they wrote, OK, the COVID-19.
It was blah, blah, blah, blah, because we received an information from the the Ministry of Defense from the United States or from Germany, for example.
And blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
OK, my country, Argentina, is a little country in the world wide.
We are not powerful country. OK, we are not in the nation's concerts.
OK, it's one country in the G20.
OK, our economy is little.
But if you if you make the same request information, my opinion, you will have the truth of that.
And the people that they don't want to discover these contracts, you know what size they are.
OK, so thank you very much for the brave work you're doing.
I really appreciate it. Thank you.
Thank you, John. All right.
No other questions, Stephen.
Final questions and then we'll then we can go to the Tom Rodman video will stop this recording after Stephen's questions.
And then those who have more time can go.
So, Stephen, any final questions of Augusto?
So listening to Augusto, I think he's struggling to make sense of the whole thing and the possibilities.
He's suspicious that there are possibilities.
And I think in order to progress that, we need to get him in touch with lawyers outside Argentina,
because actually none of us knows the possible importance of of the papers, which I haven't actually studied yet.
But I'll pass those on to someone I have in mind.
And it could be very important.
And you see, the thing is, Charles, we need to get someone like Sasha Latopova to help us understand or help the lawyers understand
the importance of clinical trials in the context of Pfizer initiating a clinical trial run by the military in Argentina.
So none of us is going to be able to look out.
Not so much Argentina, perhaps Argentina, but into each of the what Augusto is saying is that Australia has probably done a similar structure.
And the UK has probably done a similar structure.
What you mean clinical trials, secret clinical trials?
Through the military.
I'm not sure.
Well, maybe.
That's the point.
That's the point. That's what Augusto.
That's why it's relevant to the rest of us.
This is not just an Argentinian problem.
Yeah, but the problem in Argentina was that because of their peculiar history with regard to military dictatorships
and that continent's problem with military dictatorships, they brought in special laws to exclude the military from any law.
That's the question.
That's what's being raised.
And the fact that we're aware that there are these types of contracts and multinational, multilateral treaties, how they impact on the legality of what is happening.
That's what's being raised with us.
And then, you know, there are the other sides of those contracts in the US.
But clearly, Charles, it was important to Pfizer to do a clinical trial in Argentina.
We don't know about anywhere else.
And someone like Sasha Latipova and others, there's someone else who's involved with big pharma regulation and how they bring out products.
They would be possibly able to understand why they had to run a trial in.
We know that there's a clinical trial in Argentina.
That's the point.
And we've got papers with the contracts and we shouldn't waste those.
But I think, Augusta, a lot of the problems you're having are stemming from language problems.
And also you say yourself that you've been injured.
So maybe that makes it more difficult for you to explain.
You know, you feel a pressure because you have been injured to get people to believe you.
So I think the combination of the language problem.
I know about language problems because I worked in Sweden and desperation to get to the truth, you know, leads to people maybe not exploring as much as they should in other countries.
And also, you know, it's easy for people to say, well, it's not my country.
You know, why should I look into something in Argentina?
Well, yeah, because the truth.
I don't want I don't need to demonstrate the truth because I have the public instrument that I'm just trying to explain why it is important to look into it because we don't know where there is where the solution to all this nonsense is going to come from.
And it could come from something completely unexpected, like the information you've got.
And so anyway, we will help you.
So if you email me, I'll put you in touch with the US lawyer.
Okay. Thank you.
Thank you.
All right. Thank you.
Thank you, Stephen. Thank you, Augusto.
Any applause, Augusto? Thank you. Thank you, Charles. Thank you, Stephen.
Thank you for all of the people. So sorry for my accent.
No, it's fine. No, it's okay.
Okay, Tom Rodman has put the put the link in for the telegram video chat for those who have more time. Thank you all for being here.
And we will see you on Sunday night, Monday morning, depending on what part of the world you are.
Any final comments on the chat before I save it.
Thank you very much, Augusto, for speaking to us and for struggling in what is for you at least your second language, if not your third.
No, my grandparents, they were born in Scotland, but I never went to the English school.
I learned the English language on my family.
Yeah, Augusto, it's good that you're not speaking Scottish. We don't understand it.
Thank you. Thank you. Bye, everybody. Goodbye. Goodbye. Bye. Thank you. Thank you so much.