On Australian, what is it? Just give us a clue. It's a Jewish celebration of Christmas time.
Eight days of celebration. So everybody welcome to Medical Doctors for COVID Ethics International
on this day's discussion again with JJ Cooey. So we had him last week. We didn't have a meeting on
Christmas Eve UK time, Christmas Day, Australian and other times. This group was founded by
Dr Stephen Frost over three years ago. He's a doctor medical specialty radiology. I'm Charles
Coviss, former lawyer. I won't do my full-scale introduction. I hope you all had a wonderful
Christmas, Hanukkah, whatever celebration you want. We're here. We have lots of professionals
here from all around the world. If this is your first time here, please feel free to introduce
yourself in the chat. Most of us understand we're in the middle of World War III and the medical
science battle is only one of 12 battle fronts of this World War III. Someone has put in the chat
already that King Charles, to quote the wonderful Susan, that he wrote a memo that individual
country sovereignty should be abolished and a universal government per the World Economic Forum
should be established. There you are everybody. That's the war that we are in. One world government.
There's no time for us to be tired, look after your health, be ready for the fight. We're four
and a half years into a seven-year war, ISS, but it'll probably go on much longer than that in lots
of elements. But that's what we do here. Most of us understand the development of science and the
science is never settled. Anyone who tells you it's settled, as Michael Crichton says, reach for your
wallet. Some of us believe that viruses exist, some of us believe that viruses are a hoax and some of
us are on the fence and many of us think that debating that issue is a waste of time and many
of us think that we are negligent to not debate that issue. So there you are. We have lots of
different news. I had a meeting on the weekend from one of my very intelligent, allegedly
experienced business colleagues and he said that Trump is going to destroy America. So there you are.
I scratch my head, I go, how anybody could think that is amazing when Biden and Kamala,
what they've done over the last four years. So there you are. That's the value of different
opinions. This meeting runs for two and a half hours, after which for those with the time,
Tom Rodman runs a video telegram meeting. Tom puts the links into the chat if you're able to join.
We will listen to JJ Cooey for as long as JJ wishes to speak and then we have Q&A, Stephen Frost.
By a long established tradition, ask the first questions for 15 minutes. This is a free speech
environment with appropriate moderating. Free speech is crucially important in our fight
to preserve our human freedoms. We have a rule here of no ad hominem attacks. So there's free
speech and an ad hominem attack. An ad hominem attack essentially is what you are saying is wrong
versus you are an idiot for saying that. Quite clear. It's an attack on the people. Now we are
given examples every day in government, in Congress, in parliament, in Australian parliament,
they attack each other like by the kindergarten children, happens all around the world. This,
I don't allow as the moderator, ad hominem attacks. You can attack an idea but not the person.
If you're offended by anything, be offended. We're lovingly not interested. We reject the
offence industry that requires nobody to say anything that may offend another. And we similarly
reject the triggering industry. Don't say something that might trigger someone. We come
with an attitude and perspective of love, not fear. Fear is the opposite of love. Fear squashes you
and enslaves you. Love expands you and liberates you. And the great challenge, the great challenge
of the Christian message of love is loving people who disagree with you. It's a big challenge.
We disagree with people and go, how do you love people who behave that way? These twice weekly
meetings are not just talkfests, an extraordinary range of actions and initiatives have been
generated from linkages made by attendees in these meetings, including Jerome Corsi, getting
publishing deals or offering publishing deals to people here and lots of other activities.
The meeting is recorded, is uploaded onto the Rumble channel. And now welcome to our guest
presenter again, JJ Cooey. Thank you again, JJ, for giving us your time for those in the,
who didn't get the invitation. I'll do a quick rundown of JJ's bio for the purposes of the
recording. JJ's website is GigaOM Consulting. He's a lifelong biologist. He grew up in Northern,
what's WI again? Wisconsin. Wisconsin. Thank you. Catching bull snakes and making plaster casts of
bear tracks and fishing for bluegill. His last faculty position was a member of the research
faculty of the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine until 2021. His research focused on
trying to connect structure to function using patch clamp and optogenetics in the brain.
He's published work in science, natural neuroscience, PNAS and neurons. His teaching
resume is a natural teacher. His teaching resume started with substitute teaching in Chicago public
schools in 1998 at the age of 21. And in the 26 years since, he's taught neurobiology at university
level in countries all around the world, including the Netherlands, Norway, Switzerland and USA.
JJ has years of experience with academic science, having chased tenure on two continents. The
pandemic exercise forced him to reconsider all that he knew. JJ has been trying to share his
unique pandemic awakening ever since. And JJ is convinced after years of careful study and
direct contact with a number of the central actors that the childhood vaccine schedule in America is
a criminal enterprise. This was well known before the pandemic was declared. The pandemic was a
multinational military operation intended to use an expected rise in all cause mortality across the
Western world to create a mythology about gain of function viruses that could be used to negate
national sovereignty and enslave our kids. As it happens, I totally agree. I've been engaged in
in helping parents whose children will be damaged by vaccines in Australia for 14 years.
It is a criminal enterprise. I call it out as a criminal enterprise. And I quote Stanley Plotkin,
the alleged godfather of children's vaccines in America, who has acknowledged that no vaccine
ever in history has been properly tested for safety and efficacy. JJ, Stephen Frost, thank
you again for creating this group and for organizing JJ to be with us. And JJ, we are in
your proverbial hands. Charles, can I just say one thing before JJ starts? I'm not sure, JJ,
whether I've introduced you to Jerome Corsi, but I think you've got at least one book in you. And
he's a publisher. So if I haven't introduced you, that's a big miss by me. Sorry about that.
Have you? Have I introduced you? You mentioned him after last week's talk, but JJ, I have watched a
couple of your presentations. And if you want to do a book, just let me know. You certainly have
the material for a book. And when you're ready, let me know. Okay, well, first of all, let me just
start out by saying that the last time that I was here, my performance was a little bit subpar,
especially at the end with questions. And why I in no way, shape or form want to try to defend
myself here. I want to remind everybody that two talks before that the same gentleman was telling
us about the 666 in the Twitter logo that was on all of our phones as part of a 15 minute
presentation before I gave my presentation. So I was kind of, you know, I was already alerted
that something weird was going on. And when he when he insisted that he had exposed me or something
like that, I guess, at that stage, I reacted very poorly. But in my own defense, it's, it's,
it's very hard to to be one of the only people who can see the alien. So clearly,
I want to be very clear. I don't, I still have one main message, and I want to kind of stick to it.
I'm going to move over to this screen. I know, I just heard Charles say it. But I think it is
very likely that that there are forces at work that make it relatively irrelevant who's in the
White House. And even though we cheer for different teams in America, and it really feels like sometimes
we're winning, and sometimes we're really getting our butt kicked unfairly. That's actually all part
of the theater. And that's what makes it so engaging. I, I can't stress enough how I think,
especially in America, it's important for all of us to probe this possibility very deeply.
Because if we don't, and it's true, we will effectively run into their trap
at full speed, because that's how they're going to run us into the trap, in my estimation.
And so one of the guys that's in behind the scenes from the very beginning,
last week, I tried to encourage everybody that there's a lot of homework for everyone to do,
because actually, all the information is still available on the internet, you can go back,
and you can find the videos, and you can find who was saying what when. And one of the most
interesting characters that slipped my radar for a long time is Steve Bannon. Steve Bannon basically
introduced most of the characters in the pandemic mythology, including Li Min Yan,
including Robert Malone, including a lot of these, these other places like the Epoch Times
and promoting them. He was on top of the lab leak idea in January 25th, 2020. That's one of the
earliest people to ever enunciate the full theory that the Chinese were having a Chernobyl event.
And it's not by accident, because actually, Steve Bannon is probably the accepted godfather of the
Q movement in America, which is also a complete nonsense movement that is embraced by a lot of
people as being a real patriot or patriotic movement. And it's not, it's the same kind of
fake conservative circus on the internet that Steve Bannon is responsible for coordinating,
and may indeed be one of the people responsible for coordinating all of these people. Remember,
he also worked for Goldman Sachs, like Aaron Seary. He knows how insider trading can be used to
create a lot of money. And then that's another weaponized pile of money that you can use for
whatever reason you need to. So make no mistake about it. I don't think anybody's going to come
to our rescue. I actually think that Americans need to rescue America from traders within.
And that's why we are here. I outlined this last week. We are in a very broken state where half
of the United States is very convinced that vaccines are the greatest discovery in modern
medicine and the other half of the United States is at least skeptical, if not full on out. The
trouble is the people that are leading these two sides are both on the same team. That's the reason
why despite being fighting this battle against the vaccines or something to do with vaccines for
more than 10 or 15 years, these people that are in front of us haven't usefully progressed
their narrative, haven't usefully progressed their language, haven't usefully progressed their legal
arguments. And instead we find ourselves here where we could have been five years ago, where we were
five years ago, where we were 10 years ago in certain people's presentations. And this is the
key to see because if we were making progress then anytime somebody said it better everybody on that
team would adopt the language. Anytime anybody made a significant win they would adopt the language.
Anytime there was a wait a minute moment everybody would adopt that new position but that never
happens in the anti-vax movement and I think that's one of the overarching signals that you can find
that they brought us here. CHD, ICANN, HART, PANDA, they all brought us here. They're all
responsible for not making useful progress in five years. CHD as I pointed out last week had the movie
vaxed and the movie vaxed too. At the beginning of the pandemic they could have gone full court press
and said hey guess what guys we've got two movies and they're great and they're going to tell you a
lot about what you need to know before these new vaccines come out. But did they do that?
Absolutely not. Not even remotely close to a strategy that would think about let's say taking
advantage of the opportunity to move the ball forward but instead they took the advantage to
put themselves in the forefront while not actually taking a useful position on anything except for
health freedom. Now I don't know how to explain it too many different ways but I do know that
this needs to be repeated and you need to learn how to repeat this to your family and friends.
The people that are running this show that think on multi-generational time horizons
they already knew that the big families after World War II and then the subsequent decline
in family size was going to result in a period of time in the future where we would have a top heavy
population pyramid and that there would be an increase in all-cause mortality or an increase
in end-of-life care necessary and that could be a budgetary problem, could be a hospital shortage
problem, it could be a public health problem. And they have been planning meticulously how to use
this huge opportunity to craft a narrative that would entrap generations to come.
And nobody from CHD, nobody from ICANN, nobody with a book in 2015 about the
vaccine schedule has been able to get here yet. And I would suggest to you it's not because I am
some kind of savant, it's because these people aren't actually trying and for the last five years
I have been as best I can trying to understand how it is, where we are and where we're trying to go.
And I tried hard enough so that I got the attention of the biggest players and got my names in the
biggest books and now they all ignore me. This is huge ladies and gentlemen, it's huge because
there's very little evidence of what I'm trying to say that you can just see without working at it,
without asking the questions yourself. There's very little evidence you can see because no matter
which direction you look on social media you're going to see a military representation of a set
of ideas that will never get you out. Hamster wheels is what I've been calling them and these
people on social media are responsible for curating those hamster wheels, maybe even
identifying them and amplifying them. They don't necessarily need to create all of the wrong
narratives, they just need to find people that are very excited about the wrong narratives and give
them trinkets to keep them excited about that narrative. And if they play along, they play along,
it's hurting cats, it's not hurting sheep. You got to find them doing things and then just keep
them doing those things. That's what they want and there is only one chance right now, only one chance
where we can still keep our children effectively off of social media and not using it like idiots.
This is the last opening and Robert Malone and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Mary Holland
and none of these people are at all mentioning in the defense of children's health that we should
get our children off of social media. Now I understand there's going to be people in the
audience saying, oh but then what are you going to do? You're going to control age on the internet?
Now Jonathan Cooey is advocating for digital ID. No, I'm not. I'm advocating for parents to take
the phones away from their kids. I'm advocating for parents to make the decision for their kids
not to be on Snapchat, not to have a phone to take to school. I don't need the government to
do that for me. I need adults to wake up and apologize to their kids forever not realizing
how stupid that was. We have one chance and I need everybody to see it as clearly as possible. This
is a population pyramid. I didn't explain it very well the last time. There are men on this side,
there are females on the pink side and represented by the horizontal bars are different age groups
that you can see here behind me. And so each age group is composed of five years of lifetime
and so you can see the large families from World War II moving up the population pyramid as they
age. And what I'm suggesting to you is that the people that rule our world have seen this coming
in the western nations in particular, not in the third world. That's why Africa doesn't have to
worry about COVID. They don't have this problem to manage. And it is extraordinary how long I've
been saying this particular thing, which is 2021, and then stopped saying it for almost a year and
a half because of these people coming to my house, signal chats, telegram groups, phone calls,
private zoom meetings, steering committees, full on jobs that pay a hundred thousand dollars a year.
They did everything they could to get me to forget about this, to forget about this and to move on
from the biology instead of saying what I've been saying for almost three years straight. The protocols
were murder. It's not accidents. It's not wrong. It's supplementary oxygen used incorrectly.
It's ventilators used incorrectly. It's midazolam used incorrectly. It's antibiotics not used for
a viral syndrome. It's all of those things and they are all murder. And anybody that was fighting
for our grandparents that were murdered or our parents that were murdered should have been
calling it murder a long time ago. Grace was murdered. Grace Shara was murdered in the hospital.
Gain of function is a mythology. I think I've been saying that for almost four years, but three years
for sure. And it's an interesting thing that nobody really wants to talk about or acknowledge
and just take and make some t-shirts of it. I don't care or prove me wrong. And the reason
why they don't want to talk about that is because gain of function is a mythology is the perfect way
to imply that virology is also a mythology. It's not a question of whether it's real or not. It's
a question of what it really means and what those people mean by it and whether they even understand
what they're doing. So the Scooby Doo is real and I'm going to just make this point for sure.
They tricked us over the last five years into solving a mystery and that's why now right now
in the United States both the left and the right are kind of like considering the possibility
that maybe China did leak something. And all it takes is a spectacular commitment from all these
people to the lie. Jessica Rose, Nick Hudson, all of them are committed to the lie.
And you might say, yeah, but those people are all really good. They're not.
They're not. I know because even if they say it now, those people could have said it three years ago.
Nick Hudson, remember, just to remind you again because it's a particularly beautiful data point,
has three hour and a half presentations of me from 2022 and 2023 that he could put on the
could put on the Rumble channel of Panda but has not. And I'm probably one of the only people who
presented to Panda that doesn't have a video somewhere on Rumble. And that's not by accident,
that's by design. The same reason why I have pages and pages of direct messaging on Twitter from
Jonathan Engler of Heart and Nick Hudson of Panda. Because they are meddlers. They take
information and they try to dilute it. They try to pretend like it wasn't yours. They try to pretend
like it's theirs in order to essentially try to distract from the idea that these things are real,
that nobody's saying murder. Even Nick Hudson is unable to say that they are murdering people
because the vaccine schedule around the world is criminal and they need to murder people
in order to manage that population pyramid problem. And think about that. Nick Hudson is an actuary.
Do you actually believe that Nick Hudson doesn't know that there's such thing as a population
pyramid? Do you really think Nick Hudson and Danny Rancourt and that guy named Dodd who works for the
life insurance industry don't know that these graphs exist and didn't know that there was a bump
coming? It's impossible for Nick Hudson the actuary and for Dodd the actuary and for
Danny Rancourt the polymath physicist number cruncher from May 2020 not to know of this signal.
It's impossible. And the fact that none of them have said it, even though they know I've said it
to them, is evidence that they are collaborating against this mythology. And so what I am suggesting
is that the people that were there are put in place. Everybody in the No Virus group,
quite a few of them were put in place. I mean look at this. Tom Cowan had a book in 2018
about vaccines and autoimmunity in 2018. And so think about the possibility that this guy could
have just held up his book and said hey look you know public health and biology it's all kind of a
lie and they're murdering people in the United States in order to cover that up. But he didn't
say it. Still hasn't said it. How simple would it be for him to say that viruses aren't real
and they murdered people in America to make sure that we would believe it.
The vaccine schedule is criminal and they're murdering people in America to make us believe
it. Why wouldn't, why hasn't he gotten there yet? Why haven't the Baileys gotten there yet?
Why hasn't James Lyons-Wyler got there yet? He was there in 2016. Environmental and genetic causes
of autism. That doesn't say much about vaccines I guess. Wouldn't want to step on anybody's toes in
2016. They don't cite each other in any of their books either. It's not like one anti-vax book says
hey there was a book before me and a book before me and those guys got some of those things right.
They just ignore all the other books that came before them and just write a book like they're
the first person to ever talk about it. I mean once you see it for what it is that Stephen Hatfield,
the original guy that was accused of being the anthrax leaker in 2001 associated with Ebola and
Rhodesia, associated with Merrill Nass and Robert Malone already with the with the amerthrax vaccine
back in 2001. The last time I was talking to you I said 2011. It's actually 2001 that those three are
associated with each other and the anthrax vaccine. In 2019 the illustrious master of no virus,
Andy Kaufman was taking a grant from the state of New York to invent biotech
devices to detect suicide in prisons.
And now we're supposed to believe that somehow or another he couldn't get to call it murder in New
York. They were murdering people with oxygen and ventilators. The hospitals were empty
but they were murdering people. They let people die in their homes with do not resuscitate orders
but somehow or another that never made it to the top of his discussion. It was really just you know
they don't culture viruses, they don't isolate them and they don't purify them and I got this
friend named Christine Massey who's got all these FOIA requests who say that they don't do it either.
So rather than saying that they're lying and they're murdering people to cover the lie,
these people got into these hamster wheels. Semantic hamster wheels, methodological hamster wheels,
genetic hamster wheels, molecular biological hamster wheels, it doesn't matter.
As long as you don't say murder and lies then it's all good.
Brett Weinstein, first year and a half locked down with a bandana and wood chopped goggles,
it definitely was a virus. I mean AIDS came from bush meat.
It's been many years ladies and gentlemen and this has not progressed.
We have not moved forward, we have not woken up.
And if you see that in November 2023 in Bucharest, Romania,
Merrill Nass up there not circled, Robert Malone and his wife,
Robert Malone and his wife, Brett Weinstein, Jessica Rose, that's Harvey Reich,
there's Nick Hudson in the middle and who's Nick Hudson standing next to?
Nick Hudson is standing next to Stephen Hatfield. Stephen Hatfield, the guy who said that Barney
should be wearing a mask to teach children how to lock down. That guy is on stage.
Right next to Nick Hudson in November of 2023, the guy who said that for the health of America,
Barney the dinosaur should also be wearing a mask so that kids really get it. He also said that
people should wear a rubber apron when taking care of their kids when they have COVID.
And those videos are still available for anybody that, you know, dares to ask a question.
That's the remarkable thing about it. I'm not doing anything magic. I'm just going and asking
the relevant questions like what were these people up to and why would they be up to it with
Stephen Hatfield in Romania? Why would Denny Rancourt choose Romania of all the places to go
hang out with these people and have breakfast with them at the hotel? Does that make you trust Denny
Rancourt more or less? Does this make you trust Nick Hudson more or less? What if I told you that
Nick Hudson was on a cruise off the coast of Turkey with a lot of these people the year before this?
Would that make you feel better or worse? Because these are all just truths.
Not everybody's aware of them, but I am because these people were talking to me about it.
Trying to explain to me that on that cruise Robert Malone and his wife fought so much that they have
to be real and that I definitely shouldn't attack Robert Malone anymore. I can't make this stuff up.
It's real. It's just what I can't forget it either. I don't have to remember it. I don't have any
notes here. What do I need notes for? This is the trauma of my adult life, these people lying to me
like this. I think my testimony about these people is one of the best read threads that puts them
into one gigantic show. Keep in mind that Stephen Hatfield was on Steve Bannon's show in January
2020 talking about a lab leak. This is significant.
And this is a year ago.
And so Denny Rancourt says that it's poverty level and household income, serious mental illness,
obesity and the excess mortality is a direct correlation across states to all of these things.
There's no correlation with age, he says. Oh sorry, true with and without the vaccines,
not correlated with age. So if it's not correlated with age, he says it's the vaccine.
But can you see the graph he's showing here? Can you see the slope of it?
Maybe I should use this graph to show you how obvious the signal is. Maybe I'll just use this
graph to show you how obvious the signal is. What if I just put this graph right here and let this
thing run? Can you please tell me that you can see that there's a signal coming? That in 1980
there's already a signal coming. I can see it. All I had to do is put Denny Rancourt's graph here.
You can see the slope in Denny Rancourt's graph which corresponds to this thing coming up here.
Can you see it yet? And Denny Rancourt says this is nothing. That slope that you see there is
nothing. That's not a rise in all-cause mortality at all, he says. No increase in all-cause mortality
because of opioids. There's no correlation with age, but there's 500,000 people dead in the United
States from opioids, but he doesn't seem to think that that number matters even though they're not
old people. Can you see the signal coming yet guys? And can you understand why it would be that they
would need people talking about all-cause mortality so early and so often? There's Dodd over there.
This guy. He never says it. Harvey Reich never says it. He's also an epidemiologist. He's really
smart. We can't expect Sabine Hazan to say it because she's just an expert in talking shit.
And I mean that literally. That's the name of the book that she's selling,
and she sequenced the COVID virus in the gut, so that makes it real.
Why do we have a Canadian in front of the Senate? Why do we have a Belgian guy in front of the
Senate? Why do we have these Romanian guys in front of the Senate? Who are these people getting
flown in except for people getting flown in as part of Team Robert Malone? Team Kevin McKernan,
Team Human Genome Project, Department of Energy, DITRA, I don't know.
There's no explanation for how we can be 2024 and be where we are. There's no explanation for it
at all other than the fact that most of the people that got us here are in on it. There's no other
explanation, and that's the reason why in America we have Bloomberg saying that vaccines are crazy,
amazing, and if we get Robert F. Kennedy Jr. in the White House somewhere useful, then it could
be a disaster. And these other channels are finally solving the lab leak, and of course it's again a
function virus. Boy, we better regulate this stuff. And I'm suggesting to you that the only
way we got here is because Brett Weinstein, because of Robert Malone, because of Pierre Cori,
because of Peter McCullough, because of all of these people not having the principles to continue
to speak out and move as they learned. I'm not saying all of them knew because I didn't know.
I didn't know in 2020 that this could all be a lie. It never even dawned on me that it was possible.
And you notice, notice carefully how the No Virus group wasn't very good at getting anybody on their
side in 2020 or 2021. They were so bad at it. It was just extraordinary because in the end,
by 2021, I was already saying Mark Bailey's right. Everything that Mark Bailey wrote in his
farewell to virology is correct. It doesn't get rid of the observations that are made. It doesn't
get rid of what happens in those experiments. It gets rid of the conclusions that were drawn. It
gets rid of the implication of high fidelity understanding that was implied by that work.
It doesn't mean that there's no biology there. It doesn't mean that there's no molecular biology
there at all. It means that we don't understand it yet, that we need to revisit these observations
to see where we went wrong and that there's scholarly work to do. And I've said it many
times. I think Mark Bailey made a good start. I think Stephen Lanker have made a good start on it.
But then again, I come back to the same thing. Then why in all these years have you not said
that they are murdering people in order to lie about this? Why in all of these years have you
not said that there is this population pyramid thing and they knew that all cause mortality was
going to go up? And so what they did was they used this signal and misconstrued it as evidence of
a public health crisis. And they're using it to convince us that virology is real,
but virology is not. They're murdering people to hide it. Why didn't they say that? Because
that wasn't on their script, ladies and gentlemen. And it's still not on their script now. Actually,
Sunday, the 29th, 2024, I got an email right before this talk from Christine Massey. And I
just want to read it out loud. Hi, JJ. I'm 44 minutes into your latest rant on Stephen Frost's
platform. You've accused Andy Kaufman of being part of an elaborate hoax. Yes, I have. Can you
please specify exactly what hoax he is allegedly a part of and cite your evidence for this
accusation? Again, I will cite the idea that he was connected to Cuomo directly in New York by a
grant to produce biometrics for prisons in New York. And at the start of the pandemic, he took a
very obtuse position on vaccines or medicine or the COVID or whatever. Nothing useful and definitely,
definitely, definitely suggested that there was no murder going on, that they were lying about it,
that there was nothing happening. And that's not true. We know now that they murdered people.
And I believe that he was part of it. And I think there's five years of video evidence on Rumble
and on telegram groups and on signal groups and on Twitter and everywhere else to see that if you
go back to 2020 and then go to 2021 and try to remember in your goldfish memory that that's two
years now, and then go to 2022, and that's three years, and compare what he was saying in 2020 and
in 2021 and in 2022, and then rub your little Fu Manchu beard and ask yourself the question,
how the hell did he make no progress in three years if he was so far ahead in 2020?
And you can ask the same question of Brett Weinstein. You can ask the same question of
Robert Malone or Pierre Cori or any of these people. And once you really do the math and
realize that it's years, they didn't learn anything. And in those years was when I was
a faculty member at a medical school crying to them, then losing my job and still crying to them,
then getting hired by them. You see the problem? Then getting published with them.
And now I'm telling you that they're lying about it. I'm telling you that I've figured out that
they're lying about it. And I'm burning all the bridges that I could have kept with all of these
people. And it's not enriching my family. It's not making me famous. And I don't care about my name.
I want somebody to believe that these people were involved in the same thing that they're involved
in now, the same thing that a lot of these sabotaged organizations are involved in now
and have always been involved in. Also recall last May, you were still promoting a narrative
involving four imaginary endemic coronaviruses, but never cited any valid scientific evidence
to show that any exists because there isn't any such evidence in claiming that the fraudulent
COVID-19 PCR tests used to generate the fake cases were crazy specific. Now, of course,
this is again, remember the secretary of the no virus people. This is the one that sends all the
nasty emails to Mary Holland that I was supposed to answer two years ago. And I did. And I tried
to answer in a way that said, we can get together on the idea that there's no viruses if we make it
a little more subtle, a little more nuanced argument. And I want you guys to get together
about this. And they shot it down. And instead they did stuff like this saying, well, why don't
you give us more evidence of coronaviruses? And I have been saying for at least two years now
that the evidence that they have for coronaviruses in the wild is sequence evidence alone.
And so if you don't take the word of the sequences, then already the whole thing falls
apart. And I'm fine with that. But they take those sequences and using standard methodologies
developed in the human genome project more than 10 years ago, maybe even 20 years ago, they create
synthetic copies of those sequences in large, pure quantities that cannot be generated by any
other means and do not exist naturally in nature. And that starting point, when transfected,
applied to a cell culture, transfected into a cell culture, can result in all kinds of changes that
can be misconstrued as the effects of viruses. And for the most part, RNA virology is done that way.
And ladies and gentlemen, I have been trying to get the no virus people and the CHD people
to teach everybody this for more than two years. That's what my red pill talk was about last year.
Brian Artis, for example, when he argues about venom, is telling you that they're making these
proteins in huge quantities, but he seems to skip over the fact that in order to make those proteins
in huge quantities, they have to do exactly what I am warning you about. They have to make large
quantities of pure DNA and then have bacteria grow them up into even larger quantities and then
convert that to a protein. In the case of the mRNA shot, they do that, but they don't have to
convert to protein because they can leave it at an mRNA. They can use a commercial enzyme to convert
that DNA to RNA and then that's their product. It's a hundred times cheaper than making a
monoclonal antibody. Billions of doses are very cheap to make and they didn't even need to make
them, right? Because of course, one of the things that I keep arguing is, is that none of these
meddlers are talking about placebo. Why don't any of these people talk about placebo? I've been saying
it for three years that they could make a further argument of why people aren't always injured by
the shot for a simple placebo substitution, which makes manufacturing easier and it makes keeping
track of the hotlots very much easier as well. But nobody can get there in five years.
So they want me to give examples of endemic coronaviruses and I have been saying for the
last couple years that RNA cannot pandemic. It can't be endemic. That doesn't make sense.
Now, if I was not as good last May at saying it, I will submit that's probably true.
But again, rather than trying to build bridges or get me on their team or to try and work together
to solve this problem, it is an attack. Now, what I want you to see, and I need you to see it very
clearly, is that Christine Massey and Andrew Kaufman and Tom Cowan and Zeck and I don't know,
there's one other one, and the Bailey's are all part of a little group. They all have books.
And yet somehow or another, this guy, James Lyons-Wyler, he's got an online university called
IPAC. He's on stage with CHD every conference they ever do. He's raising money on his own
nonprofit at CHD events every time they have a CHD event. He's got a book called the Environmental
and Genetic Causes of Autism. It precedes Tom Cowan's book by two years. And yet Tom Cowan
and the No Virus People have spent weeks harassing me and meddling with my ability to make a living
to try and scratch my way back to sunshine. They've never attacked him. They've never
criticized him, even though he's got thousands of more followers than me in any measure you could
go on. And he's actively having a university that supposedly teaches this stuff where he teaches
immunology. And yet she has the audacity to send me an email asking me to give her some evidence
of some of this stuff, but not this guy with a book. And it goes on and on and on and on like this.
In this new rant you have insinuated that there are pathogens for which people need immunity,
so I'm asking you if you can cite valid scientific evidence for this claim. Also,
you make condescending and accusatory comments about the discussions of fluoride. Can you explain
what your problem with is with exposing the issues around fluoride? And you can see,
you can read it here. Mass drugging, uncontrolled experimentation without informed consent using
hazardous waste, acid, also contaminant with arsenic and other toxins. It's all disingenuous
as the disingenuous as the pushing of foyers for two years as evidence of something. When every
lawyer knows that the exact language that you choose and the exact honesty of the organization
all has a lot to do with what your request finds, and you can never really know for sure.
Now here's the deal. You know because you were here, you saw it last time. I've said it a million
times and I'll say it again. They need us to teach this to our kids. Where is that coming from?
Why is that not in this? Well anyway, it doesn't matter. That's good. The illusion that they've
created is one that everybody agrees on, and please keep in mind it's Peter McCullough,
it's Jessica Rose, it's Brett Weinstein, it's Merrill Nass, it's Mary Holland, and they all say
the same thing. Well I certainly had something strange. I had something strange a couple times.
It was one of the strangest, heaviest sicknesses I've ever had. I lost my sense of smell and taste,
and so they have all testified for five years that there was something novel, even if they are the
most skeptical of people. And interestingly enough, the people who say there's no virus
are never called to the mat to explain the strange happenings. I'm always asked that question. Every
time I speak somebody says, yeah but what about all the people that had this really strange sickness
that they've never had before? And these no virus people have never bothered to explain it, but they
want me to explain it. They want me to explain it, and here's the deal. They want me to explain it,
and here's the deal. They ran out the clock just like Robert Malone did. They ran out the clock by
sticking to their little part of the narrative. That's the reason why in 2024, five years later,
we are debating whether it was a lab leak or not, just like Steve Bannon said on January 25th, 2020,
just like Stephen Hatfield implied in January of 2021, Stephen Hatfield's war room. And five years
later, that's where we are because of a coordinated group of liars that extends beyond
country borders and is probably paid by insider trading and social media, money laundering through
Substack and all these other things where you can just have fake followers. You can even sell fake
books on Amazon. And that's why in 2020, I was already saying that the PCR was fake on a background
and these people have been working me for five years straight. That's why the only people that
haven't visited your house, they haven't flown across the world to visit you in Pittsburgh.
It's 2024. That's where we are right now. These guys want me to explain what's all about
fluoridation. I explained it yesterday. You see, fluoridation, it's down here at the bottom.
This processed food, seed oils, fast food, cosmetics, sunscreen, air, water, soil,
pollution, everybody can get mad about that because we could agree about that 25 years ago.
Those are not even low hanging fruit. Those are common sense things that in America we should
have fixed decades ago, but we didn't because we had our head somewhere it shouldn't be.
And it's no different than the ridiculous argument about Israel and Gaza and what's going on there
and not going on there. And it's no different than the argument about Ukraine and what's going on
there and not going on there. It's fine to argue about those things. Those are exactly
the limited spectrums of debate they want you in because you don't have any way of getting any
useful information about Israel and Gaza. You got top secret access. You know what Palantir's doing
there. Do you have any access to the Mossad files? You know how to read Hebrew or something?
And the same thing with Ukraine. Even the known history of Ukraine is probably curated in a way
to make it obvious that there's bad guys and good guys in a way that completely hides what's actually
going on there. I don't think I know what's going on in Ukraine, but I know for sure that they're
lying about it. And the crazy part about it is that some of these same people that have been
experts during this nonsense five years are also now experts on some of these political things.
And none of them will bother to take this language. Look, intramuscular injection is dumb.
I said it last time and I want to say it again. We need to focus on this idea because think about
how important it is if it's true. If you can't as an MD figure out the exceptions to that or why,
well he's exaggerating, he can't say that. If you can't come up with a very succinct reason why
that's wrong, we have a very big problem. If you can't figure out that Robert Malone is the inventor
of transfection and two other people on that patent that nobody talks to. Funny, huh?
Now, transfection is a real thing that we already knew how it worked and we already knew it would
be criminal and that's why I lost my job at the University of Pittsburgh. That's the truth.
That's 2021 and ever since these people have been trying to get me to talk about something else
other than this and the population pyramid because it bothers them. And then some years later,
thanks in part to the persistence of the no virus people and the good writing of Mark Bailey,
I got to the stage where I could put it in three words. Don't need to download a PDF, just read
RNA cannot pandemic. And any academic biologist worth their salt could think about it for a second
and be like, wow, that's interesting. Viruses are not pattern integrities. It's a little bigger idea,
but I think it's something worth fighting for. And none of these people are doing it, including
the no virus people that I tried to give the top two already three years ago. I just wanted to
bring CHD and the no virus people together on the idea that they were never vaccines. They were
always transfection, very old technology based on recombinant DNA. And interestingly, the exact same
reason why infectious clones are so interesting because that's the term. That's the semantic
sheet that gets hidden, gets pulled over everybody's eyes when they use recombinant DNA
to do virology in cell culture or in animals. All of it is done with recombinant RNA and DNA.
And if that's the starting point, then they're not recapitulating anything in nature.
They're saying they find a sequence. And then since the sequence won't grow by itself,
we have to use industrial methods to make the sequence. And then we can use a pure quantity
of that sequence in cell culture to get a handle on what that sequence does in the wild. And that
is an extraordinarily amazing why that Peter Dasak is involved in and Tony Fauci is involved
in and Kevin McKernan is involved in and everybody who sits on the assumption that RNA can and does
pandemic and that RNA can and is endemic. It's not possible. That's not biologically
possible because these are just molecules. They're not pattern integrities. And so
I'm not really sure. I don't want to say too much more because I think I want to be
plenty open for questions, but I think the best way to summarize it is very simple.
At any time in 2020 or 2021, any of these people, like I would suggest the earlier your book about
vaccines came out, the more the onus would be on you to be ahead of us on this. If your book came
out in 2016 or you had a book in 2018, I don't think you can really explain away the fact that
you're not already calling the vaccine schedule criminal and that they murder people in order to
hide that. That there is a population pyramid problem in the West that needs managing and that's
why they murdered people in Scotland. That's why they murdered people in the Netherlands with a
shortage of healthcare workers and a lack of antibiotics. People died of urinary tract
infection in the Netherlands and Scotland and other places in the UK and that is murder.
And it's not just because they said it was COVID and it wasn't COVID. No, they murdered people
and then called it COVID. That's very different than even letting people die. They murdered people
because otherwise the peaks wouldn't have been there. Do you see? The all-cause mortality expected
from this ever-increasing bump in the population pyramid, that wasn't necessarily going to just go
in one go, right? If those are rich people, those people are in Medicare, then we should be spending
money to keep them alive. And in America, the last six months of a person's life costs about a half a
million dollars on Medicare or Medicaid, whichever one it is. I apologize for not knowing. But that's
important to see because if you can just kill those people instead of doling out that six months,
well, that's a pretty big bonus, especially if in addition to that, you're going to pay those
corporate hospitals for that death because it's a crisis and COVID deaths are worth about $50,000.
It's murder and lies and we need to go back to 2020 and 2021 and 2022 and see that they were
murdering people and lying about it. They were letting an opioid crisis in America go wild and
lying about it. And then people like Pierre Cori perpetuated the myth that this was all evidence
of COVID creating a decrease in life expectancy in America. Wow, scary. The same guy who told us
that we needed to use pure oxygen in hospitals up to 60 liters a minute. And nobody, none of these
people are talking about the fact that if you wear a mask all day, that your pulse ox might go down.
And none of these people are talking about the fact that the FLCCC said while you're wearing a
mask, if your pulse ox goes down to 94, you better go to the hospital. So then you go to the hospital
and you get pure oxygen. And we've already known since the late 80s, the pure oxygen or even 80%
pure oxygen without proper controls and humidification will cause extreme detrimental
damage to the lungs called ARDS. And none of these doctors, Pierre Cori, none of these doctors,
Robert Malone or Jessica Rose or any of these people are talking about how supplemental oxygen
was used to kill Grace Schara and hundreds if not thousands of other people in the hospital.
It's not the last thing they were on. It's the first thing they were given
that caused all of the symptoms in their lungs to go haywire and ask for further treatment.
The very progression of the disease only occurring in hospitals that Denny Rancourt noticed
can probably be tied directly to the use of supplemental oxygen by untrained staff without
the proper equipment to manage it. And then those people being placed on vents. Remember,
a supplemental oxygen was used because we were running out of vents. Remember that Elon Musk
was going to convert one of his factories to make vents. You know, the same Elon Musk that now got
Donald Trump elected and is going to clean up our government. I don't know what to tell you,
ladies and gentlemen, but I think we've got them. I think we really do. I think if you want to,
you don't need me. You can do the work. It's just the right search terms in the YouTube search
engine, in the rumble search engine, and you will find videos from 2020 and you will see that these
people were seeding a Scooby Doo narrative that we have solved over five years and that they didn't
make any progress for five years. They just kind of ran around in circles with their heads cut off,
focused on one thing or another thing and never focused on the murder, never focused on the
predicted rise in all-cause mortality that could have bankrupted any of our countries if let gone,
unchecked and unmanaged. And instead now we have the magnificent seven, including Steve Bannon,
marching into the White House supposedly. I guarantee you none of those people are going
to be there. There's no way. And if they are, then it's even further evidence of a sort of
ridiculous theater that cannot be taken seriously anymore. America is in big trouble.
That's for sure. And if I'm wrong about some of these things and I'm wrong about some of these
people, then it shouldn't change what they can do with the words choices that I've come up with. So
the bottom line is that it feels very disingenuous to me that these people after five years haven't
at least said, well, Jay's a dick, but he says some things really well. And I'm sorry, but if
these guys were really trying to win, then that should have been their conclusion a couple, three
years ago. Jay's a creep. Boy, I don't like him. He's angry all the time. He's wrong about a lot
of people, but man, oh man, when he summarizes biology, boy, he's spot on, dead on balls accurate,
but they don't. Instead, they send emails asking for evidence of coronaviruses or evidence of
contagion or asking me why I'm so against fluoride or something like that when they know that's wrong.
So that's where we are. I think 2025 can be really hopeful because we have the language. We have
the language and if we wanted to have more of the language, I've got more of it and other people
might have more of it. We could work together to get the best one page of language together that
would end this, but these people don't want to do that. So I think some of us should try to do it.
I have been trying to do it for a couple years now and every day I push stream, I think I'm going to
break something and nothing ever breaks. But I've had this slide or a less accurate version of it for
almost three years now and all of these people have seen it. They've all gotten it in an email.
They all know that, okay, some of you want to argue about viruses, that's fine, but you could start here
and say we really like what Jay says here, but he's wrong about viruses and then we would be
making progress. And they could have done that in 2021 and they didn't. They knew my name. They even
did a whole stream with me, the six of them or five of them together to talk about how infectious
clones are. He hasn't given us any evidence of infectious clones. The entire PubMed archive is
infectious clones, which is what? It is recombinant DNA produced the same way that they produce it in
all other commercial applications to make antibodies or make venom, except they don't
have to go all the way to the protein. They don't have to purify a protein. They just make a lot of
DNA using a big bacterial culture. They lyse the bacterial culture, isolate the DNA, pass it through
a commercial RNA and now you have the RNA that you can call a transfection or you can call an
investigational vaccine and pad yourself on the back for having saved the world. And it's the
exact same technology that they use when the metal biota or Peter Dasax says we found a sequence.
Well, then they go and they order it from some company that like Kevin McKernan would be at
and they get a tube in the mail with pure DNA that couldn't be produced any other way.
And then that's what they start with when they do virology. And that's also what they start with
when they do gain of function research. So gain of function research isn't, is not anything special.
It is just synthetic DNA and RNA transfected into cell culture and then elaborate stories told
about what those experiments mean and what they represent as potential dangers.
So I don't know what to say. I agree with Mark Bailey. I think Mark Bailey is probably the
closest to a true player in the no virus people. I'm absolutely convinced that Tom Cowan and Andy
Kaufman were hired and are doing a shtick. I don't know if Christine Massey knows. She could just be
naive and believe in these people and they could have convinced her a long time ago and been very
loyal and that's fine. But I assure you, just like CHD, there are sabotagers in all of these little
conclaves of ideas that refuse to sort of touch each other. The no virus people have never even
come close to touching the anti-vax stance of the CHD. They're just all garbage and that is by design
and that's because they're there to do that. They're not, CHD is not making any more progress
than the no virus people and not making any more progress than the natural virus people. It's all
the same set of hamster wheels and once you realize that, you can see how cheaply the people
that run this show could populate all of these places, especially if they had control over social
media, which you already know they do. Elon Musk and Peter Thiel control the keys to several very
key and in play social media including Telegram and Gab and Substack and Stripe and Twitter and
X and PayPal and all of these things that in the background are moving money, moving influence
and hurting cats. And people like us who have been thinking that you know what, if we just keep
streaming and we keep sharing, then eventually we're going to get enough subscribers that we're
going to be okay. I have had 3,100 subscribers on Twitch for the last three years. I've had 14,000
followers on Twitter for the last three years until this year when I went down to 13,800.
And so it could be that I have nothing to say. It could be that I have no new message
or it could be that like a lot of people who have been censored, you don't see them, you can't find
them. It might even look like people are seeing my tweets, but they're not. Nobody sees them and
that's the point. You can't rise on social media if social media is pre-programmed and every single
one of these platforms you should treat as pre-programmed. That all the people that are
put in front of you are pre-selected from a group of maybe thousands of people that want to be
and hundreds of people that were screened and you only need to see 40 or 50 in your YouTube
feed before you won't realize that 40 or 50 of them are put there.
And I assure you all the marbles are at stake. We're talking about multi-generational enslavement.
So if it takes a few hundred people to be on the internet for a few years and lying consistently
together, that's child's play. If you want to believe that Robert Malone is selling a book
through CHD and that book is called The Psy War, but he's not going to tell you that The Psy War
is composed of hundreds of people placed online that don't have to pay rent or worry about where
their money comes from or do their own tech or even cut their own videos. You know how long it
takes me to cut a video when I just want to cut me and two cameras on the basketball court? It takes
me like four days to make that video by myself and if I make that video then I'm not coaching
basketball. I'm not making a slide deck like this. I'm not posting shorts on Instagram or
doing anything else. I'm just watching my own video over and over again and editing every cut
and editing all the subtitles and all the other bullshit that's involved in editing a video that
none of these people ever have to do because they have a staff, because Rumble paid for a studio in
their backyard, because these people are part of an elaborate international illusion that is designed
to enslave our children after we teach them that the gain of function mythology that's on tv is
real, that the pandemic really happened and that you know vaccines usually work but sometimes people
are hurt and it's as simple as saying intramuscular injection is dumb ladies and gentlemen and if we
start there and if we really did just start there do you realize we would win also on 5G because
5G does not work if you don't inject something into the person first. You can't put a 5G tower
outside of my house and crank it up then I'll just move. If it's not close enough it's not going to
matter but if you put something in my body and I do believe there are things that they can put in
your body then yes 5G even 4G even regular radio waves could potentially magnets could potentially
be dangerous and that's the point. Intramuscular injection is dumb and so I don't need to bitch
about 5G and scream and yell about what I know and don't know about 5G. What I do know as a ham
radio operator for 30 years and as a guy who was an electrophysiologist that has done actual
optogenetic experiments that are published in actual journals I can tell you that this kind of
controlling of the brain or manipulating of the brain from remote is absurd. It's absolutely absurd
that's very different than me saying that I don't believe people get headaches from their phone. Of
course they do. It's very different than me saying that nobody's sensitive to wi-fi because I'm sure
there are but understanding those mechanisms and weaponizing those mechanisms is ridiculous
because first and foremost in order for that to happen ultimately they need us to give this
sovereignty up and that's why I think this is the most important thing. 5G can be paused if we got
everybody to stop taking intramuscular injections. All of this would end. All of it would end. They
don't have anything if we don't take intramuscular injections. What are they going to do? Send us
pills in the mail? What can they do? They can't do anything. The real thing to realize is that
our children only need to understand that. Everything else goes away. Transfection is a
big detail then because of course you're not going to transfect yourself. It's an intramuscular
injection. I think this is crucial. RNA cannot pandemic is great for biologists.
Transfection is great for people who should have done known better and have familiar with that
familiarity with that word but intramuscular injection is dumb as something that even somebody
at a gas station could go wait a minute really and there is real biology to support that and I think
the real biology to support that is the thing that I want to leave off with. I just want to draw it
in a cartoon the way that I've drawn it before. I want you to think of yourself as a bit of a tube
and that's it and you shouldn't really think of yourself as any more than a tube and the food
comes in one end and it goes out the other and you also get some air in here and that goes out the
same end. Well occasionally some air comes out the other end as well but that's not usually inhaled
but the point is that this is a tube and so on the inside and all barriers of your body are aligned
by epithelial cells. It doesn't matter whether you're talking about on the outside or whether
you're talking about on the inside. There's a lining of epithelial cells and epithelial cells
are the gatekeepers of our bodies and they decide what gets absorbed and how it gets absorbed and
whether it gets actively transported or not and those mechanisms are well understood in the gut
and well understood in the skin to a certain extent but they also understand beyond a shadow
of a doubt that there is another layer of that system there with several autonomous cells that
seem to serve some role as gatekeepers in terms of even gatekeeping the ability of things to pass
between epithelial cells and so we understand a little bit about that and we call that the
immune system. We also have a couple other evidences of the immune system that you if
anybody asks you I don't believe in the immune system there's evidence that there's some system
there and there's a couple anecdotal things that you can point to. One would be the way that the
the body reacts to to tissue transplants and how we can reasonably predict that some tissue
transplants will be will be relatively successful and others are very likely to not be successful
and that has something to do with these cells. Now to what extent these cells learn or or memorize
molecular memories to pathogens or or some signal in nature is up for debate and I'm fine for that
being up for debate but what I'm not fine for is the idea that if we understand this broad biology
where an inside of our body is protected from the outside by a barrier
then trying to augment the effectiveness of that barrier by injecting medicine beyond it
is logically incorrect. It is it is on its face objectionable and if we can on its face object
to vaccines then there is a case from the 80s I believe in Idaho which already established that
as a legal precedence that if the intervention itself doesn't make sense then a mandate for it
or a government support of it cannot exist and so somebody tried to challenge some vaccine thing in
Idaho and challenge it on the basis that the vaccine itself wasn't working and it didn't work
and so that's why they were challenging it and the court said that was a legal way I don't know the
the details of it because I'm not a lawyer but I do know that there's a little kink in the armor
there and this would be the big biological picture that I don't think there's an academic biologist
in America or or in the EU that could make a useful argument against it. I don't care how
many details you add or how much more you know about payers patches than I do this means check me
if you understand the immune system like I do if you understand the immune system like Tony Fauci
does and NIAID does then that's this is real it's got an orientation it faces outward
and outward is also inside of your gut and that orientation is there and it's functional
so if you try to to augment it or interact with it at the opposite orientation you won't interact
with it usefully and so on its face methodologically intramuscular injection
of medicine to augment healthy people is dumb. I think that's really where we are I think that's
the best way to end it I think that's that's what we should we should discuss I don't I don't think
we need to get into a big argument about how high fidelity information we have about coronaviruses
or not we know that there's a huge background of of molecular noise that that Meta biota has been
making a living on for for decades and and and NIH has been making a living on for decades
and the fidelity that they claim to have is just not there and I agree with as much as I know about
Mark Bailey I agree with him but as much as I know about these other people I know that they've
been playing a a very disingenuous game and it has resulted in a lot of suffering for a lot of
people and a lot of murder that has yet to be brought to justice and so I think everybody's
got homework to do and videos to download and people to re-examine and I suggest that you also
re-examine me you know go and and and look at my track record and find my videos and find my quotes
in the Washington Times and and see on my website what I admit to that I I was fooled I I lost my
job at the University of Pittsburgh because I wanted to speak out against transfection but also
but also because I was convinced it was a lab leak and that's what also made me so excited about
telling everybody you know what I knew because I it was that desperate that they were going to use
this lab leak as an excuse to call transfection an investigational vaccine and that's crazy
because it's crazy and that's about all I could say but I that's what I was saying and
and I think all of us know I think all of us have known it's just how far are you willing to go
how far are you willing to accept it I'm willing to go to the point where I will say
that I don't think that Donald Trump was shot I think that that was fake and I think that the
people that were involved with it are the same people that are involved with controlling getting
Bobby Kennedy into the into the White House there's a there's a couple real obvious reasons why it was
faked the first one is that his sons have never bragged about either the lack of scar or the scar
we've never seen a picture of the scar or the last scar and that's a very very big problem
and if you see that for what it is it doesn't even mean that that Donald Trump necessarily has to
could he could regret it now it could have been something that he went along with not knowing
exactly how bad it was going to be or how bad it would be but without a doubt the fact of the
matter is is that a lot of these people and get this in your heads a lot of these people that are
were on the fear and cleavage site in 2020 a lot of these people that were on the spike protein in
2020 also spent three weeks after Donald Trump was shot to talk about how many shooters there were
and whether they were on the water tower or not and whether the the secret service was in on it
all of them were united in the discussion of that and they all did it together and that's not by
accident or because of its current events it's because that's how the narrative is curated
on the internet it's by a coordinated group of people that keeps us running forward and keeps
us focused on the next thing and if we if we allow that to happen then we'll essentially miss the
opportunity to number one remove our kids from social media and number two teach our kids that
and teach our current doctors that intramuscular injection is not all it's cracked up to be in fact
it's pretty dumb that's it okay JJ thank you for sharing again great work now Stephen's going
first set of questions JJ one problem oh sure I'm a former lawyer I'm a legal strategist
I finished law school in 1973 so 51 years ago
and
and the law courts have a problem JJ and I'll just bring it to people's attention that
that I have no problems with your proposition on criminality and murder however they need to be
proven and listening to you I'm going hmm which experts do we bring before
the courts to support the proposition because judges know shit from play about what you've
just been talking about okay and I want everyone to understand gosh if you're a judge and not
a biologist and indeed JJ we've all been fooled or as I said at the start I had 14 years of
understanding this and you know I love that's why we come here to express our views what do we do
with the judges how do we get a judge to understand and I'm going to I want you to think about this
because we go which experts can the courts rely upon and if the experts have been bought they've
got great names they can stand up there with all these qualifications and say here's the expert
the judge says I prefer Tom Cowan to JJ and that's what they do and it's a real problem for all of
us and so think about this and JJ it ties into what you're suggesting that we do our homework
because here's the rule the courts follow culture they don't create culture and so what we have to
do is what you're saying is to in the court of public opinion so that the judges stop just
listening to choosing from a bunch of experts and therefore our knowledge around this what you're
encouraging us to do is to learn this stuff so that we can talk to our neighbours so that the
court of public opinion says intramuscular injection is dumb stop it and perhaps that leads
to then the children of judges and the grandchildren of judges not being injected so that the judges are
sitting there and really hammering any expert who says intramuscular injection is a good thing
does that make sense this problem of competing experts for the judges and so and the judges
will are influenced by by public opinion and that's why demonstrations in front of courts happen
because they work
food for thought everybody because because i want you to think about if you're going to court which
expert based on what we've just heard today which expert are we going to use all right that's what
i want to say it's a somewhat of a rhetorical question but it's a real problem because you
can't you can't prove something's criminal until the judge says it's criminal all right
steven next 15 minutes is yours buddy and i can see your face how pretty with a tie what's the
story with a tie i've never seen steven frost with a tie yeah i do wear ties occasionally
especially when i was working in the military but anyway um otherwise it'll get got thrown out of
the officer's mess but anyway um jj so talking about these experts so i think the expert who
uh is trying to help the judges should be able to say there was no pandemic in my blood
and furthermore there was no covet 19 that would really and furthermore it would be very helpful
if people like mark bailey um uh and others who maybe agree um that they could say that they're
medical doctors and they are experts in in interpreting the uh as far as human beings
are capable of analyzing everything uh interpreting a medical uh purported medical emergency and i
think that you know jj i'm a big fan of yours i think it's obvious to you uh that there was
no pandemic and that there was no covet 19 even though to me as a medical doctor that is absolutely
well i can't say there's no doubt but i think i'm 90 10 uh saying that in my opinion as a medical
doctor there was no pandemic and that is the most important message to the public and as charles
just said we need to influence public opinion so saying that intramuscular injections uh shouldn't
it's dumb and also to say that um again the function is a mythology the the average member
of the public doesn't understand that so i think you're missing a trick by not simplifying it and
saying the obvious stuff like there was no pandemic and there was no covet 19 or at least that's
extremely likely in my opinion and until people are prepared to hypothesize without proving it
beyond reasonable doubt or beyond the balance of probabilities or um proving it as a scientist
we're never going to get out of this trap because they are doing things you were the one who
suggested it to me you said gain a function this was about two years ago 80 and that really got
me going because you gave me the idea that um what they say they can do they're not capable of doing
but it's enough to just say it to create the fear to get everybody into the matrix of a pandemic
occurring every five years or whatever and the only people who are going to be able to save us
are the politicians who are advocating world government and we've just had the king of our
country uh saying that uh we need to get rid of uh what was it uh nation states essentially
and we need to have world government the guy is an absolute nutter and he's our king
at least i live in a country where i can be confident that i won't be dragged off to prison
for criticizing the king well i think i can um uh tomorrow so anyway so there are some good things
about the uk uh for example that but um the the guy is an absolute tosser charles the third
um if let me just be a devil's advocate for a minute if if uh the the worst case scenario
stories from people like kathryn watt are true and the u.s military has has killed people with
toxins or kill boxes or whatever other operations that that they claim is here um would it would it
would it be would it be uh
then i guess i'm kind of like kind of my i was trying to i had it in my head and now i dropped
it i i want you to consider that that without the requisite knowledge um no matter what you say
there was no pandemic it's not going to be good enough so in other words let's say um um
there's no war and there's no war in israel right now uh you could say that because there isn't
there's no war in israel right now there's not a there's not a conflict going on a lot of people
don't even think what happened on in october when they used hand gliders and stuff a lot of people
think that wasn't even real so but saying there's no war happening in israel is not really correct
because there's people being murdered there and killed there and shooting and bombs all the time
so there's something happening there and so i think that the the very dangerous position of
there is no pandemic is exactly what people like tom cowan and andy kaufman said without
any details without any qualifications without any description of what that meant and what that did
was that left people with all these images of israel and all these images of dead bodies and
all these news reports of bombs and fighting and then these people over here saying there's no war
in israel and i don't think that that you can underestimate how dangerous that position was
in 2020 and how dangerous it remains now something very bad happened it was a coordinated bad thing
and saying that there's not there was no pandemic will turn a lot of people's brain off yeah but i
noticed they have sorry go on jay jay i just think that if you say something like intramuscular
injection is dumb at least they have to think about it if you say there's no pandemic they can
oh there he is another one of those guys that's like saying anti-baxter doesn't mean anything
anymore without some but that's the response i used to get but i don't get that response now
okay so they they so once they hear that i'm a doctor and that i look a bit serious about this
subject they actually want to listen because they are very doubtful themselves about what happened
they don't understand what happened and nobody as you've rightly said all these people who made
great progress at the beginning in 2020 and 2021 they didn't do anything in the last three years i
agree with you what where are why aren't they speaking out about this and saying people need
to be held responsible why aren't people uh outside the covert inquiry in the uk you know
demonstrating and saying this is all nonsense and calling people out by name um because actually
they've all been encouraged to believe that it's all over now and we don't need to do anything
because human beings are very lazy so i do think that the public are incredibly confused about
what's happened they've been psychologically tortured by their own government and they are
actually mystified as to what happened so someone coming along and planting a seed that there was
no pandemic and someone else coming along the same day and planting this or encouraging that
seed to grow by saying the same thing i think could work nothing else is going to work we need to
expose these we think these people are liars i think they've lied about everything
anyway
you know i'm with you okay yes uh so go ahead giles let's let someone else all right we've got
lots of hands up now i'm concerned about the order of hands going up you need to everybody please
understand that zoom placed tricks on us because i think mark or anderson mark had their hands up
first now thorby on your first and on my screen and it keeps chopping and changing will be
efficient if you're efficient in your answers jay then we'll be then we'll get through them
charles you're the moderator um so i trust you too but i will say this jj is the guest and so
um he gets to decide whether he wants to answer the questions if he doesn't want to answer questions
from anderson mark because they're aggressive that's fine with me he doesn't need to answer them
it's fine i won't listen we're okay and we're not having ad hominem attacks remember the distinction
everybody you can express the view and and i agree steven with you that none of our guests have to
answer any question like you know jay when did you stop masturbating you know that's the classic
question when did you stop beating him well he hasn't that's the problem no i'm joking gg
all right so none of those on my screen i've got thorby on then anderson mark so go thorby on you
go first thank you um first of all uh there there is this documentary called watch the waters
and um uh that's what i've been doing for the last years i'm coming from um uh 14 years of
experience when it comes to nanotechnology and um in you know the the the i don't like the word
agendas and yet the many people around the world are talking about the agenda that is moving from
from one year to another um but the world health organization
has been they have an agenda and in their agenda on an official level they're talking about um
how they're going to distribute their their economics and uh nanochemistry uh nano physics
nanotechnology is 17 out of 24 uh different issues so nanotechnology is
quite the core of the matter and uh i have this i have discovered what scientists uh professors
and medical doctors have found in a different way than all of all of these people
namely uh in nature uh in raindrops in drinking water and it's far from being um chloride or
or the the usual things that we have more or less been aware of as as not good for the health
for the health in the in the drinking water that is so and there is a quite some speculation on
um different usage of filters when it comes to buses uh tramways and and um uh airplanes and so
on and and the usage of filters will help a lot for the agenda to just spread um uh nanochemistry
through the filter because i know from experience how easy that is to just spread out uh uh so
gj is uh spot on when he's talking about um how easy it is to uh manipulate um uh different
rna-based codes and and why not some some parasites and and back and forth on that level
and it's it's actually called uh lipid nanoparticles it used to be uh a uh a necessary
necessity to go through the process of what is what was used to call uh crisper technology
but now you can you can forget about the the crisper uh technology because of lipid nanoparticles
they have a split nature uh they're partially uh uh metallic and partially biological and the
biological spectrum of of those uh particles um are not good for health because they're all sick
they're all uh certainly not fitting into the into the immune system uh or the stem cells
and so they get kind of muted as as soon as they get into the body but it's not only the
through the vaccines it's also in the air and so i don't want to be the first one and certainly
not the last one to talk about chem trails you know but uh i i have written a lot of texts where
you're changing the point of view from chem trails into nano chemical gases because i've made them
uh let's say for example that if i were to challenge people on this platform or any other
platform if uh uh the ladies and gentlemen have ever uh sat down and created graphene oxide
and know what it means that's just an example the experience of having created graphene oxide
well there is two ways to do it either you create graphene oxide using uh uh lead
straight from the metal and uh black nanoparticles that's how you create so-called oxide it's not an
oxide it's trillions of nano capsules that's what it is and uh that concerns all the other
nano chemical oxides as well all of them they are nano capsules they are the hidden enemy that
they're that the the psychopaths or the the Mengele guys are using that that's the trick that's uh that
covers and explains that the invisible enemy and the information war because if you can't speak
the nano chemical language then not if not not professors that are more or less corrupt or
any kind of ai mechanics uh will uh will uh just tell you that uh you don't know what you're
talking about this is all wrong just because you you don't know the language so what i did in order
to make this more as simple as possible for the new yorkshire people at least and now my my writings
are coming up out in in several languages and that's been going on for many years now
many years i mean the the last two three years well um i've studied and and um uh translated
american patents and and it's obvious it's in the patents you can see uh
well so beyond hold that thought um steven i think we should have thought beyond do a presentation
to us if this is so important but i'm going to get a lot of questions and we're tight for time so
steven um you know are you happy to present to us or beyond oh uh it will be my dream excellent
great so steven we're if you send if you send steven your email in the chat we'll talk about
that do you have a question of jj because we're going to keep moving through or you've shared you
shared the view on the nano lipid nanoparticles the relevance of nano capsules i've taken a note
of that jj any comment or thought beyond is there a specific question to to end i i have i really
have a question uh to jj and that is actually uh what is his take on uh and you uh nanotechnology
in medicine um i i think uh i would stick with just what i said in the talk i i uh first of all
they have to have access to you so uh if you don't let them inject you then nanos for a lot of reasons
are not that big of a danger i understand that they could deploy them um in in many ways and
put them in food or other things like that but i think intramuscular injection is a particularly
diabolical way to put things into people's bodies that cannot be you can't get a better way in um so
for me um all the other ways in are less dangerous and and certainly will be harder for them to get
away with and harder for them to to achieve what they would want to achieve um i i think
nanotechnology in medicine is for the most part still kind of a pipe dream and i could just be
naive um but uh we have to be very careful to allow people to create things that are not that
different from chemicals or from proteins or from i mean if you engineer a protein and the protein
moves is that a nanomachine or is it a protein um if if if the if you make an antibody that can spin
um because of its uh the nature of its chemical bonds does that make it a nanomachine instead
and for me um a lot of this is creating a semantic as you just said if you don't know the words then
uh all of this stuff will go over your head and more importantly if you learn the definition of
those words and all of those words are nonsense um then just like i was in 2020 arguing about
coronaviruses and flu viruses and how they work um i was i was arguing for them and it is very very
possible that right now most of the arguments about nanomedicine are are
are traps in one way or another and again if nanomedicine is coming um we can fight it by not
by not allowing intramuscular injection to be a way of administering medicine and if nano things
are coming then it's even more important for us to understand that there was a brief period of time
when they needed to murder people in order to manage the problem and we don't want to skip
that problem we don't want to skip that part of the story we have to tell that part of the story
and then they're using that to bring in all of these technologies to encourage people to develop
them to move all of the piles of money around that support these ideas going from theory to practice
and so again i'm not i don't want to take a stance on whether it's fake or not i definitely agree
that these people would love to have this technology are willing to invest years and invest
in in human experiments in order to get these technologies to work and so of course the
overarching message that i've been saying is that they're trying to invert our sovereignty into
test animal subjects as status and so this would go right along with it they're not going to be
able to develop nanotechnology without us being the experimental animal so i agree and i just want
to know where charles are you blocking me and mark to be on the show will you shut up and as
you're next i just ask you because i was shut up before don't ask stupid questions uh thor
bjorn um thanks so thank you jj on that comment and as you are being objectionable behave yourself
thor bjorn i'd love you to share your knowledge in this group and as i said you are next then mark
go
thank you very much for allowing me to be um coming here i would say that um i was
on this show a little while ago and i had a talk with jj and he called me a not that honest man
which was a bit of an offense to me i will not go against that now charles i would say that
i'm working very closely don't because deal with the issues yes yes i will i will we're not bothered
about i would say that i will say child that i'm working very closely with robert young
and we are about to publish um our understanding of what is the let's say connection between the
let's say the magnetic uh toxins in the vaccines and the 4g 5g and this
interfection has been denied by jj earlier and this is a concern because this is the the most
important issue of the the killing mechanisms which me and mark agree on which is that this
if you have a magnetic shoulder after vaccination it is an evidence there is something bad happening
and we see is that a lot of people are dying and if you people don't want to
understand the seriousness of that 17 million people have died and about four to eight nine
hundred million people have been wounded you need to reconsider what the what the hell is going on
and i would say this is such these are facts and if you don't want to realize these facts
it's not really my problem so what's the question then anders the question is uh you need to
realize steven that you are in this group subverting the fact the question what is
really going on that's not a question right that's not a question and you need and and and steven
you are actually charles you're really suppressing the facts no no ask the question i'm not interested
in your opinion so i i i are is this group part of the deep state or what yes absolutely
you are stupid to ask that question that is now some people say it's a question and you need to
realize you are subject to this question because this question must come to you anders anders do
you think that um i'm i'm misleading people when i say that there was a a a population you know jj
if you looked into your chinese statement in a peer-reviewed report from march 2021
you are supporting the idea that there was a virus from wuhan do you agree or do you not
i have admitted many times that in the beginning of this pandemic i was fooled like everyone else
you're not dunking on me here but you're appearing in your report which you you it says it it says it
on my website it was part of the illusion my friend that's what i'm trying to tell you they
caught people like me in it and you're trying to somehow or another undermine my confession and try
to make it seem like i'm trying to sabotage i'm trying to admit that i was as fooled as anyone in
fact i was so fooled that i am the expert in this book and i feel like a jackass for being the expert
in this book but some of you do you don't get it you don't get that i've been saying that for the
last two years or you're trying not to get it you're trying to obfuscate that idea and try to make
it about 5g or something else now listen carefully i'm going to give you a chance
do you think that i'm misleading people when i suggest that great britain and scotland and
the netherlands and germany and america all had a population pyramid problem of old people
that needed managing and that they murdered them in order to create this illusion that may very
well be to roll out 5g technology but in order to do it they murdered people that needed managing
do you do you disagree with that or not you are muted anders you see how this works do you agree
that intramuscular injection is dumb and that all of us should have known it before the pandemic
or do you think i'm misleading people with that statement
anders you are muted it's just amateur hour here come on we're all trying to get to the truth we
all we all suffer it's ridiculous charles move on to the next question if you would
and
anders if you don't know that you're muted and you keep talking away when no one can hear you
and you keep talking away when no one can hear you
you shouldn't be on a zoom meeting you shouldn't be on a zoom meeting anders
what's your screen i'm happy for the answer but i must say that it is it is a question which should
be asked and i am really interesting to know this group because you're also saying right anders
you're also saying right that they didn't murder people in the hospitals they murdered people with
five i i never said that i never said that so what what did five g cause the sickness that people
say was strange or what did the five g do and where did it do it is it a proximity to certain
towers that they turned on or was it just everywhere can you can you develop this a
little bit farther or are you trying to jj jj i would i'm about to uh release a peer-reviewed
paper along with robert young uh on this subject i got the email and don't try to tell me that
charles this is not going anywhere fast nobody said that i'm just i'm just waiting for you to
address any points instead of just making the points you made last time which were
again we addressed the point was that you called me a liar last time and that's not acceptable
anders we're going to mark no i'm not going back there mark you're next
thanks for that i think it was actually i didn't call yeah it was it was uh jj called me the liar
anders yeah that's right and what i what i want to understand is what were the lines that you
thought i was telling you we're not going there you guys can have a conversation about it mark
what would you what's your question this time the question is well i want to put it straight to jj
right the 5g is instrumental in this kill all right now we know you've spoken about the vaccines
and how they're dangerous i get that no i'm not talking about that i don't care about that
hang on a minute hang on jj let me speak let us ask the question you're putting words in my mouth
just ask the question you called us a liar you called me a liar let me just answer this question
yeah we're not interested in who called who was a liar well what was the line about
listen ask the question what's the question you want to ask jj question right the question is
the i've always said the contamination and the vaccine jj just hold on let it ask the question
right contamination in the vaccine is interconnected with 5g for the kill
you called me a liar for saying that can you explain do you know what's in the vaccine
actually know what 5g actually is you also made a statement about optical radiation being safe
i'm not saying that's nonsense in all real life so can you just explain what your knowledge base is
of 5g or light emitting diodes right we've got the question okay again here we are here are uh
trying to impose some kind of weird uh what is your expertise so you're using two words
what is your expertise so you're using two words together optical radiation which i think is just
two words that actually mean light and you're trying to use it as in a specific way meaning
that if you use certain frequencies in combination then you can make people psycho and crazy and
that's probably true in a laboratory setting however the idea that 5g and all these other
things are responsible for the kill when we know when we know that the simple lack of antibiotics
the application of supplemental oxygen the lack of even giving people water the the horrible
abuses that happened in the hospital are how people were killed that's the reason why most
of the old people that died were past the light the years of life expectancy it was murder first
and what i think you're lying about or being misled about by people who are lying to you
is that this 5g thing could have some seminal role in what happened here instead of just
a bunch of people lying about virology and molecular biology and the population pyramid
that they needed to murder people in order to save that these these western economies from
from crashing and you spending your time asking me what i know about leds and what my knowledge
base is i'm on pub med i've got 15 years of publication to tell you exactly what my expertise
is i've had faculty positions at several universities this track record is available for you you can
find exactly what i know and you know exactly what you don't know and that's why you use terms like
optical radiation and think you're dunking on someone it's it's kind of scary actually
you should really consider who's teaching you this stuff and and reconsider what their loyalties
might be because i think just like with the batches you've been misled by people and misled very badly
into believing that you know something that's really crucial when it's very simple intramuscular
injection is dumb and they needed to murder people in order to make us teach it to our kids
i think the well let me just you know progress this in new york people are suffering from
pulmonary edema that was flooding the lung all right like altitude sickness electromagnetic
radiation causes that so this is one of the main symptoms from electromagnetic radiation pollution
and you're trying to tell me with your lack of knowledge in relation to electromagnetic
radiation pollution that that wasn't the case good mark stop we are not having an emr discussion
you've made the point jj's answered you've made the comment what we've had numerous presentations
mark you've presented twice and as has presented twice you've made the point on we go we're running
out of time thank you teresa thank you charles um he's a fucking sorry sorry jay
oh god bless you fella that's hilarious to raise up okay thank you charles thank you jj um i missed
the beginning so i'll go back and catch it on the uh on the rumble channel but um everything was
really great that you've been saying i agree with you i'm a bit dubious about the trump's assassination
it's strange that rfk is um appointed huff it makes it look like we're going to go down the
path which is really worrying i agree with you are of course we are he's also going to provide
safe vaccines you know that right he's going to test them and they're going to great he's going
to clean these up it's going to be awesome yeah yeah yeah i'm seeing it i'm seeing it and i also
agree with you that rna can't pandemic and the intramuscular injections are dumb now um
um i i i i have to say i was sick i i was sick with something in 2019 and i was sick again with
something after i went to uh an anti-vax conference in 2022 um i was hallucinating uh i i couldn't
move it was horrible i don't think i had a virus i think i was poisoned a lot of people were sick
after that conference um coming on to my question it concerns the cancer that we're seeing um i
don't have many friends you can imagine but of the friends i do have half of them have a loved one
or themselves with cancer i've already lost a friend and uh and also an acquaintance um from
what i would call turbo cancer they were both unvaccinated um i've got about six people on
my radar now loved ones friends who have got sudden onset cancer quite often stage three or stage four
um all by one are unvaccinated i spoke to a lady who is a cancer um surgeon in the united states
she's running a trial with ivometin and fenn vendazole as a treatment for cancer
she told me that half of her turbo cancer patients are unvaccinated there are certain
uh physicians now saying that something is shedding from the vaccine injured onto the
unvaccinated and making them sick it kind of tallies because four of the friends that i know
with cancer were working with the vaccine injured um you know a gp a herbalist an acupuncturist who
said that she was getting rashes on her arms after treating people with vaccine injury um and and
i'm just wondering what would be your take on that what do you think might be causing this
rash of what can only be described as turbo cancer because of these friends and close friends of
friends um they're dying from diagnosis um to to death they're like three weeks four weeks
i've got a friend who's been diagnosed with stage four cancer and he feels fine he doesn't even you
know he prostate cancer how did he get to stage four he doesn't even feel sick um what's what's
going on there jj um so i'm not a medical doctor so this is really just shooting in a barrel here
but um you know this this for me would be uh a much more plausible reason for anders and for
mark steel to be arguing about 5g as a causing these cancers and in fact it makes perfect sense
to me that that one of the best ways to roll out something especially because again i made this
point the last time when mark was was here last week that you should be arguing about the phones
then because the phone is transmitting this shit right next to your head and so if 5g is a problem
then the handheld 5g receptors transmitter might be the worst of all of it and so they seem to be
talking about when the towers were turned on but the towers need to talk to something and i just
still can't get my head around the idea that we're giving our kids these phones when they're five or
six or seven years old and so for me again we're obfuscating the idea that there has to be one cause
of these these these turbo cancers if you got a hot transfection maybe you get turbo cancer
but if you have a new iphone 14 and the right you know towers in your city i don't know maybe you get
a glioma from that the gliomas that people are getting are are they i don't think you can blame
that on the vaccine because it's not very likely that the transfection is going to make it into
your glial cells it's going to go somewhere else before it makes it there and yet you know if you're
holding the phone up to your to your head all day so for me i don't have any easy answers
i assure you that what they're putting in all of the shots not just the covid shots
can potentially be manipulated and so again i'm not saying that some of the people aren't
experiencing some of the things that they're experiencing but but what i hear when anders talks
or when i hear when mark talks is a gross overgeneralization where just like saying
there's a pandemic that killed 17 million people you you generalize and say that 5g killed all
those people or that the all these cancers can be explained by the shot and that's that's a very
very dangerous tactic i think you got to cast the widest net possible and i think you know any
any explanation that fits is is fine with me we're all exposed to so much that you know maybe it's
just all coming to a head now maybe we're diagnosing better maybe doctors are doing it but i i
i gotta say there's there's there's gonna be an explanation we're gonna find it and what you
started with which again with anders and with mark and with sasha latopova and with with
katherine watt and any of these other people the idea that they could have poisoned people in some
places is of course plausible and the idea that they would have used different means of creating
the same confusion in different places is not only plausible but very likely from a military
perspective you wouldn't want to roll out the same toxin at an anti-vax conference as you did
in the subways of new york or there might be some connection there but if you could roll out
something that irritated the lungs in new york and something that rolled out that that irritated
the lungs and made you hallucinate in somewhere else and then roll out something that made people
have stomach flu elsewhere and everything could be described as covid well that's all the better for
this military psyop so for me the the i would err on the side of caution and keep your mind open
but turbo cancers are definitely something that seemed to be universally acknowledged as new
and that that i think is quite significant now what's causing them especially when you i know
you're not making this up and telling me that these people are not vaccinated i'm sure they're
not i'm also sure that in certain scenarios shedding has to happen the question is what are
they shedding i don't think it's guaranteed they're shedding a spike protein they could be
shedding a toxin that was designed by by by ditra or by by the u.s military to cause irritation i
don't know you know i mean they tell us it's a spike protein and that it's made after this
sequence in wuhan but none of us has the ability to sequence that rna and verify what protein is
being produced and for sure they can produce different batches i mean placebo batches batches
that are nasty and cause one thing and nasty and cause another and it wouldn't need to be
very fancy it's just you know make this rna and we know what that rna does and make this rna and
know what this rna does i uh well yeah anyway i don't want to give too long of an answer i hope
that that said something i don't really have a good answer i'm not an md i just know that we're
gonna keep moving because we're tight on time to tereza good thank you it's a it's an excellent
question and the point that i've raised and raise again look at all the people on this call we are
each not only unique but weirdos and i say each one of you on this call is a weirdo
and each one of your bodies functions uniquely and weirdly and this mad idea of ebm and and
and protocols is such bullshit that every one of us is a simple proposition when i say to people
and i've been presenting i've been presenting for 31 years as a professional speaker when i say to
people you are not the same as the people beside you everyone agrees and yet we have this stupidity
so perhaps that's an angle jay in terms of culture we stop we stop saying that we accept evidence
based medicine and and protocols that's all we have to do just talk shit i'm a human i'm an
individual as a classic line goes thank you tereza john is next and john is certainly a weirdo he's
the weirdest of the weirdos that we have here jay thanks for that um jay-jay uh just can you
back up and uh tell me how jessica rose fits into this again i i just kind of i don't know i'm kind
of having i'm missing where she fits i i do know who she is i did write about her in my books and
she was you know her statistical analysis was very helpful in i think proving that
vaccines were causing harm but where did she go wrong with you because i just don't know i'm not
seeing her um well uh she was in a stream with me and kevin mccurnin when i explained how virology
is faked using infectious clones and how they could manufacture infinite quantities of dna that
would be perfect pcr positives and put them wherever they wanted to whenever they wanted to
and find them however they wanted to with very high fidelity and even fool the chinese into
thinking they found a sequence when it could have easily just been produced by very normal commercial
means and then just spilled somewhere um and she actually stated in that that was a you can find
it on rumble it was on uh saint patrick's day in 2023 so that would be march 17th i think um
and john bodewin was the host kevin mccurnin tried to uh misconstrue what i meant by infectious
clones and that i are you suggesting that they seeded this and that it spread and i said no i'm
not saying that it's spread i'm saying that if they wanted to find a sequence somewhere they
could find it and and if they wanted to characterize a background signal and then say they found
something new they could also do that and since all of these things are proprietary and by
virology is essentially based on this recombinant dna then a lot of what the no virus people say
is right and that was all part of that discussion and after that is the last time jessica rose ever
acknowledged that i existed so she could do a lot of her bailey wick basically i mean she knows
she knows she actually in that talk if you go and listen to it on rumble she's the one who
encourages me to go back to an earlier slide deck and get my slide with the the mixtape analogy so
that i could explain why rna cannot pandemic she actually said wow the the the idea that you
explained to us was so crazy that it kept me up all night you got to explain it the way you
explained it then and so after that talk kevin mccurnin said that i was chemtrail retarded
jessica rose never mentioned me again steph Stephanie sineff never mentioned me ever john
baudwin says that he's afraid of me now because apparently i yelled at him on the phone too loud
and so all of these people just vanished after i finally was able to succinctly explain
and what did i explain very succinctly that it was robert f kennedy jr who asked me to teach him what
infectious clones were and three weeks later i knew it was a lie and i explained it to him to the
best of my ability so much so that he put me on the defender podcast with with jessica rose
and robert malone and maryl nass and tess lorry and they all pretended not to understand what i
was saying so just just another player on team enigma i got it okay thank you all right thank
you john g'day armand um one thing before we go to glenn then jim armand did a great interview
of william bay and all of you need to be aware of dr billy bay an australian um who won a supreme
court case supreme court of new of queensland attacking the medical regulators who suspended
him and rather than going through the bullshit appeal process he went straight to the supreme
court and the supreme court held that the actions of apra the australian regulatory agency and the
medical boards were totally unlawful and void and invalid and he has been he has been re-licensed
re-licensed um but it's an excellent interview armand well done and we'll have a look at and
steven we've got to get billy onto here because because his courage is is wonderful the courage
to stand up against the system rather than following the system and and billy and all of
you doctors anyone watching this recording has to understand that if you step into the medical
board system that is attacking you you are stuffed there is no justice as billy bay says
all right so it's a very relevant armand well done get onto armand's sub stack put it in the
chat armand all right let's go to glenn then jim so charles if you introduce me to um bobby is it um
billy william bay yeah okay william bay yeah i agree i agree he's one of the ones i i have
noticed and uh need he needs to present to us yeah we want him here his his courage is excellent
his thinking process is excellent all right um armand organize that for steven to get to get
billy bay onto here done all right glenn and then jim charles charles jim jim was next no jim wanted
you to go next i said yes okay all right um so uh jj there's so many things i i fully agree with you
especially in this space where you have the uh you know the depth and the knowledge oh let me
put my camera on uh you know from from your your uh your research and and your educational cycle
um unfortunately i think there are some areas that uh uh you kind of extend into as as being
associated with the overall attack that's going on and and that that presents a problem uh where
where people feel uh that the mix of things you understand well uh like the protocols of murder
and the gain of function as a mythology uh the uh the rna cannot pandemic the transmute
muscular injection is dumb and the transfection of human of healthy humans was always criminal
those those are all good and solid and associated with yours the knowledge space you have um but
there's certain other areas where you seem to just link people and associate them um i you know
there's a lot of doubt discussions around the correctness of and and the uh the intent around
robert malone i personally put him into the the bad cycle and the evil side um but uh once one does
that you can't simply say anybody that shows up in the same room with him is also guilty
and and therefore i i think you go a little too far uh in identifying people like peter maccala
and and jessica rose as as also equally guilty um and in in addition in that same kind of space
i think you've gone a bit too far uh in your characterizations of certain things with president
trump and the state of israel uh where these are spaces that you may have heard about and read
articles but i i'm being a fairly good expert in a number of these uh you've gone way too far with
your extension and your extrapolation of your position uh what was my what is your understanding
of my position on israel because i think i made it very clear that i don't think i know anything
about israel and i think the only thing you know is what you know from social media so then what
well i i know far more than that because i have a direct linkage with the intel side of the
the us department okay then then you heard me that you're you're mischaracterizing me and you you
heard me say that i that nobody knows and that i think everything that that's that's there is
being controlled you heard me say that so what is my position on israel then what is my position
that you think is not good if i'm saying that i don't know because you just said that i had
a position that you didn't you thought i was overextended on oh no so what are you doing here
glenn calm down no you calm down you just accused me of something what am i doing wrong if i say i
don't think that i know enough about israel to have a stance and i think it's a trap what have
i said the same thing about ukraine and now you're actually used a pretty significant amount of time
to say something about me that i don't think is accurate so maybe you should start over and
rephrase it with a question well it i mean if your point is you don't you don't have a position around
or or it's uh it's a secret service of a massage what is your what is your position on the
population pyramid and the need to murder people in order to fix that problem
i think those that are have put us in this position that that's absolutely part of it
i also think that and so then don't you think we should talk about that before we argue about israel
because that's the america and indeed and indeed everybody this is the as a moderator i just want
you know glenn jay didn't go he didn't do a treatise on israel he did a treatise on the
population pyramid now we can we as i said before we can talk about lots of other things
and we do sometimes in this group and we're tight for time so just you know that's where i draw
the line as moderator not because it's not free speech but because we don't have unlimited time
some of you here on this call do have unlimited time i don't and most people don't most people
do not want to be on unlimited time calls so glenn please ask your question okay then i'm going to
switch it into the other one of the other areas you did specifically call out during your
presentation your impression that donald trump's uh shot on his ear was a big fake
do you have any strong evidence of that other than that there was a lot of other poor information
being talked about at the time including shooters on them good that's a question that's that's the
question good okay yeah i do actually um the the wearing of uh band-aids at the republican national
convention is really the same thing as wearing masks and if you don't see that then you're kind
of scary um they actually performed that people actually performed for you to make sure that you
believed that they believed that there was a shot now remember his sons are the people that brag and
they take pictures with dead animals he's a guy who brags about his fitness he brags about his
doctors he brags about his health but we haven't seen one close-up instagram picture of his his
perfectly healed ear or his tiny little scar what i have seen are plenty of analysis of
ballistics where the tiniest bullet would tear apart the cartilage of this ear if it hit it at
all there is no video evidence anywhere where they tried to recreate the destruction of the cartilage
of the ear where the ear wasn't almost torn off and they used the smallest bullets with the most
minute grace and these were actually trained soldiers that were surprising themselves
when they watched the fast footage the fast forward footage or the slow motion footage
of the ear exploding so i i strongly encourage you to consider the possibility that elon musk
and peter teal and the rest of the people that run this show are laughing about the fact that
somebody was shot it's it's it's it's crazy to think that these people spent so much time
analyzing audio footage and audio or audio recordings and video footage and deciding
whether there was a shooter on which roof or from which window and we all took it very seriously
just like when they argued about it in january about whether there's a fear and cleavage site
or whether there's a patent on this spike protein i bet you they released this already in october
at the military games and none of those discussions ever once questioned the premise
just like the discussion of a water tower shooter or the discussion of who's going to wear a band-aid
is immediately not questioning the premise of the narrative nobody questioned the premise of the
narrative not even the democrats that's how i know so that's that's enough that's enough we've had
wait no you don't have unlimited question one more question no i'm not having a debate you
asked a question glenn we're tight for time listen to what i say he challenged my statement on an
area i know a lot more than he did and he answered it he answered it i i'm simply going i want to
answer the point he said he's challenging that it could have happened from a shot and i can tell you
things happen with bullets in proximity i have seen a deer die with a where 50 caliber bullet
excellent excellent all you're doing so so a shot going i'm we've had enough jim
so so i want to just i want to give him the benefit of the dot i want to just say that i'm not not
listening to him glenn please understand that we have the state of the art of state of the art of
investigative techniques in order to do the ballistics in order to to find that that crime
scene could have been exhaustively exposed as being the site of a shooting and every single detail
could have been sorted and published and it would have been fine but instead we had people like
brett weinstein and and chris martinson and a bunch of random people like dr drew talking about
multiple shooters not this not the cbs news not the democratic national committee not not cnn
none of those people cared to do any analysis at all not questioning anything about what happened or
what mistakes were made only these people who knew that there was a fear and cleavage site and knew
that the spike protein was toxic and knew that it might be generating amyloid and that we're
screaming about 5g you see the problem here that's the problem i i do and and that's where
people are talking outside their expertise area this happens to be one that is my expertise area
and i have broadcasters and you and you have not listened you have not listened i'm asking you on
it what video what what what is the video about that there was a shooting and you know for sure
no it was happened this supposedly involved the child that lived two blocks from my house and goes
to the same high school as my son do you think i'm screwing around here calling this out i walked
down to that house on the day after it happened with my dog because it's that close do you think
i'm screwing around here this happened less than 45 minutes from my house this is not a chance to
me all right that's enough jim hey jj thanks very much for your insights
i put in some documents inside the chat here so you can read them or save the chat
number one you talked about who said the covid was first lab created i think the first person
who said it was january 29th 2020 his name is danny show ham are you familiar with
danny show ham he's an intelligent agent yeah but uh but bannon bannon reported show ham on the 25th
um i don't know he mentioned him by name but he does mention him right after that so you're
right it's all the same week though okay i know danny show is for sure okay good so you know
danny show ham okay um number two are you familiar with goldman sachs who made a 100
1.5 billion dollar bet in november of 2019 that the entire world economy would collapse by the
third week of march 2020 and if it did they would make 100 billion dollars and they and they did
they put a they put their um they put their money if you're if you're familiar with um
intelligence betting you you would stagger your bets out but they put it on one date third week
of march and if they did bet they bet a 1.5 billion dollar bet november of 2019 that paid
100 billion on that date and then they hired the former head of mi6 a guy named younger okay
i didn't know some of these details i do know that erin seary the leading failure of the anti-vax
movement lawyer team he worked for goldman sachs and also let me keep going and then i'll get to
my question okay so this is i'm tying it all into intelligence okay next is uh devin dalio uh ray
dalio is a guy who ran bridgewater capital but the guy who actually ran who owns bridgewater capital
but the guy who was actually running it is a guy named mark mccormick in 2020 excuse me david
mccormick david mccormick is now senator from pennsylvania he used to run bridgewater capital
he ran the money for goldman sachs okay and now he's senator of pennsylvania your state
um another issue is the dna plasmids you're talking about intramuscular injection dna
plasmids don't need refrigeration whereas the mrna does and you when you thought mrna you have to
throw it out and inject it within three hours many of these vials are sitting around the one thing
that can be in the vials the dna contaminants that uh that uh the eagle talks about um bienavendez
talks about contaminant and it correlates directly with the toxicity of each vial and the by lot
number so i encourage you to um you know dna plasmids electroporation intramuscular injection
that's all very real and that is done by a company called inovio i n o v i o and they're in pennsylvania
as well and they made a vaccine that actually worked because they used it or may have worked
i'll say because they used the dna uh the the dna of the capsid protein you know that uh
robert lona and his wife are responsible for that company originally in yeah and and then there's
and that's all through the university of pennsylvania who invented the dna who who is uh makes money on
the mrna vaccines as well um so uh one more the other point again we're talking about
we're talking about a coordinated effort to roll out yes we are but i'm getting i'm very detailed
i'm getting very detailed about who's coordinating yeah i've i've been to all these details five years
ago already that's why robert malone i have a have a few selfies together i've been right right i
understand so no no no no problem so the next thing is uh the medical examiner for the uh for
the um for pittsburgh uh he cremated the body within two weeks of the shooting so uh and the
people behind some of the people standing behind trump were actually killed by the bullets so there
were bullets going by um the issue with my question is could any intelligence media be covering this up
and intelligence media is the smith mont modernization act of 2012 which allows
propaganda on the united states citizens absolutely i believe it wholeheartedly that's what i'm trying
to say and like yeah i agree i agree and could and and could the is there an intelligence medical
division in in a group called six eyes that could have designed the saras coby two spike protein and
that and that intelligence network is in a book called rainbow six and they describe a
virus being released at games and the vaccine being worse than the virus to depopulate the earth in
name of uh of uh um economic president excuse me radical environmentalists so could this be
an intelligence effort and if so which country has not signed the biological weapons convention
that prevents the and and oh and and the real question is how could they prevent their families
from being affected by it or how could they prevent certain people by being affected
by this uh weapon while mandating it be disseminated on everybody in the united states and world
all right that's enough questions that's the main one question that i don't think transmission
is very likely and if it's i mean that's the easiest way just keep keep away from the peasants
and transmission doesn't happen even shedding i think um is a not saying it's not happening
please understand i'm not saying the shedding is not happening i think it's quite rare it has to
you have to be transfected in a place in your body where the the long-term production of the
protein will continue and i don't know if that means it has to go to your liver it has to go
somewhere else i don't know what that would be but that would be my guess and so again um the
the answer long and short is is that that i i really think that they this goes back to the
the human genome project and they need to collect as much data as possible while the population is
as large as it is knowing that it's not always going to be this large and that they have every
intention of reducing it they need to collect this data now so they need to invert our sovereignty
and if part of that inversion is to get us to accept pandemics so that we accept all the
countermeasures that come with it then yes for sure i just keep in mind that my answer is being
hedged because i want you to consider the possibility that they can't just kill us just
like the nazis didn't just kill people they did experiments on them first and they kept meticulous
records and i think they're doing that to us now and so if they're killing us they're doing it in a
meticulous enough way so that they're using us on the way out and they're going to do it to our kids
too thank you jay thank you jim la three more las james armand and then steven will declare another
20 minutes if you've got time jay 20 more minutes i guess we'll stop okay thank you jim
hi jj i don't have a question for you i sent you an email today it could be important for you
hello yes check your inbox it's important to you and send me the answer and we'll fix it
thanks very good yeah very good last very efficient i like it good job
james good to see you well done on all your ongoing great work
look i trust you can hear me yep wonderful um jj um i i have an affinity for all of your work for
a strange reason because i grew up in youngstown ohio i've got a family in pittsburgh and every
time i see your face or your name makes me think of my childhood okay um i would love to have an
opportunity to talk with you i want to support what you're doing um i put my contact information
every place i go it's in the chat right now please call me at your earliest convenience
not immediately after this because we're going to eat lunch okay but i definitely really have
experienced many of many similar things dealing with people that you have talked about so i hear
you um uh charles um i'd like to get in line behind thor i'd love to talk about the project
that i'm working on um when you have a chance for me to present i would love to do that and
dr mallick uh love to talk to you about that as well everybody here is invited to look at
what i'm doing and if you want to give me your two cents and you want to help um i'm as open
as open can be give me a call love to talk to anybody here thank you i really can help
and i would love to hear you're saying that i really can help i'm helping who's saying that
uh
james we got thor bjorn as a speaker we got james as a speaker we got billy bay as a speaker armit
we got armit as a speaker now but anyway talk to the j i just want to say very quickly i really
enjoyed watching um thor bjorn smoke and eat and smoke it's just been fantastic anyway moving on
um jj i totally agree with you about the ear and the ballistics yeah it just would not happen
you know i've seen enough injuries with rounds and bullets as an orthopedic surgeon to know
there's no way it would have nicked his ear and he wouldn't have gone deaf and if you look he
clutched his ear and when he gets up to do the fist pump his cuff is completely clean there's
no blood on his palm i'm telling you right now the ear is one of the most bloody parts of your
body there would be blood everywhere and that little streak of blood across his chest it's just
it's all theater and anyone who falls for it and oh the ballistics and the it's all bullshit you're
just getting lost in the crap it's just theater and it's garbage and if you're falling for it
i'm sorry if this you're schmuck but anyway jj my question to you is my friend on your podcast
you said i'm a globalist serving american interfering blah blah blah dude
where did you come up with that from and why did you say that so it's pretty harsh comments
i'd love to have the evidence to back it up um did anybody uh pay for a studio in your backyard
no you bought that yourself built it yes yes like i said i want evidence have you got evidence
i'm asking when when did you decide to speak out again how did it actually work for you what did
you lose it's all there it's on public everything's on twitter instagram i've told you i've told you on
signal personally so why do you have why do you have a why do you have a uh a pension for like
people like sasha latopova for example do you not understand what she's done with her daughter you
didn't investigate that at all you just give people a platform sorry pension pension for sasha
what does that show for sure it's a like for me the the it's it's strange that that um my first
podcast of yours was behind a paywall until i complained about it it's very much the same as
like that's not true that's that's not true and i told you that on signal i've messaged you to say
that's incorrect signal but it doesn't change the fact that it was it was always public it was always
public second one was always public it's it's it's curious how those things change and and it's it's
fine the bottom line is is that you're somebody who spoke out when it was too late to save anybody
you still haven't really said that it's murder you still haven't really acknowledged that it's
it's actually supplemental oxygen that was used in the united states you haven't acknowledged that
there's an opioid epidemic that even mark kulak was on your stream to talk to you about and you
decided to ridicule him about it instead of just giving that message how did i ridicule him oh i
play the i play your voice message several times so you played my private voice message to him
which was the one that you insulted him you made it public and then therefore made it i did because
people are being murdered and you're lying about it that's why i made it public that's right
so i'm lying about it i think you're i think you are actually taking a lot of money in fact you
tried to get a lot of money from the wellness company did you not is that also a personal email
that nobody was supposed to see have you read my email thread so basically your rationale let me
speak now your rationale is anyone who wakes up to things after you did is basically not sincere
and not legitimate and shouldn't be allowed to wake up anybody basically it's a hair arch no i haven't
finished talking jj relax the humility that you do yes yes i'm trying to talk so what you're trying
to say is there's an hierarchy of awake and if you've been awake from the beginning great and
anyone who wakes up later on is not to be trusted how are we ever going to get more people on our
side if anyone who comes late on is the enemy that's unfair that's wholly unfair and i'm sorry
i did build my studio with my own money i've talked about this with my own savings it was
meant to be a hobby it was either that or a motorbike or an affair and that was my midlife
crisis and yes i've paid for it by losing my job i am not working as an orthopedic surgeon anymore
i don't know what more of a sacrifice that would i would have to make and that comes back to you
said i'm a globalist serving american meddler you haven't explained how and what the facts are
what the details are and and it's very sad now just because i don't mention certain things or
do things exactly the way you want them to do doesn't make me the enemy sorry charles i can't
hear him no because i'm listening to you we're listening to you first then jay can say what he
wants to talk i just i'm fascinated by him it's just it's incredible jay you're muted
jay you muted
somebody muted me no i'm actually i i think i'm you i muted you because armit was speaking and
we can't have two people talking at once so jay we're now listening to you
you know it's okay i don't have much more to say i i firmly believe that amid malik was recruited
and has been working with people like robert malone maryl nass sasha latopova chd and the wellness
company who wouldn't give him a job trying to find a way to grift on the back of this fake pandemic
and participate in the destruction of the west and i think that's what he's doing and he's making
a fine living doing it and more power to all right you've expressed your special belief
i'm at any final voice before we go to thomas and then steve and then we're finishing so basically
i've been recruited by the cia but i'm still trying to get a job i didn't say cia i didn't say cia i
said robert malone robert malone oh yes my best friend robert malone i said all of them did you
want to come and fix my leaky roof then oh please since i'm rolling in it since i'm so rich please
my friend please what i would say to you is i think the smile on your face is what cause you're
not angry and that's why because you haven't lost anything because i'm not like you because believe
oh i'm not no no no because you're lying i can't talk i need to talk right yes unless because jj
i'm not filled with darkness because if you're going to defeat the enemy and the darkness you
need to be filled with the light and i think really you need to go on a mushroom trip and maybe once
you go in that mushroom trip yeah seriously and and and just get to a better higher plane of
enlightenment and stop being so bitter and and and basically negative you'll understand that's how
we defeat the enemy i think you've got a great mind i've said this to you personally but i think
you're just consumed by the darkness and you're very bitter and that's sad and maybe the reason
why you don't get as big of a problem we don't all need to be different um i know all right i'm
just okay i'm just sorry i know sorry don't need to be the same i recommend that i take drugs he
recommended drugs okay all right what a time and thomas thanks amid thomas anyway i'd just like
to say i like both of these guys jj and amid and um and i think it's a pity that both of you are
engaging in slagging each other even steven according to jj's logic that means that you're
part of the enemy as well because you're no no no so you're like my association unlike you he
has promoted me to other people unlike you there's one thing you need to know about amid i'm like you
steven frost promotes me to other people he represents my day and my ideas to other people
he he asks and checks my ideas with other people unlike you who has a podcast and has had me on a
couple times but never checked my ideas with anybody else never tried to contrast my ideas
with anybody else's in fact you're just a guy who has a podcast but no real insight into anything
so unless i'm promoting you 24 7 and i'm your person i'm talking about none the problem
do you know anything about who's right are you making any decisions or you just interview
all right this is this is unedifying next thomas oh guys calm down please i love you both i mean
amid you need to understand that jj did lose sorry jj you need to understand that amid did lose his
profession as well as his job good uh thomas as did i i agree with almost everything you you say
you know this amad i think amad i i have a good gut feeling concerning amad i had it from the start
one thing we must be careful is to judge people from the distance i mean when this whole thing
started i thought oh my god how can everybody in in in politics in media in medicine etc become
evil overnight and the truth is they have not i mean this is a this is a conspiracy of a bunch
of psychopaths and then there is the convergence of interest i mean such a such a banality of evil
is only possible because many people join their bandwagon for personal interests and
and i think it's it's really difficult to to say that everybody who mentions is on the other side
is really on the other side i fully agree uh concerning robert malone i mean yeah he's a
clown and a joke but i guess many many people there are not on the other side or at least i'm
not sure and i think it's very difficult and problematic to say if that's this uh
certitude as you do that they are on the other side this is just my recommendation i love you and
you do a great job but there i recommend to be a little bit more careful i would i would just
submit to you thomas binder with the utmost humility um you're one of my my heroes of course
and i i say this with the utmost humility um amad malik has has emails and and private messages and
signal chats where if you saw them all you would see it and you have no right to see his emails
please talk to thomas and stop attacking armand well but i mean what if i'm not interested in
attacks i don't give you the guest you will not attack people you don't need to jj you're too
brilliant what is is it is it attacking people to say that you have not seen all of armand's
emails that's bullshit don't say you have my emails the emails he sends to me correct you have said
that's is that he sends to me good i have a fight to make a decision about him based on that
relationship that is not shit about your conclusion let's move on thomas you're playing their game
now you're discounting my personal experience and my personal experience is these people lying to me
stavin sorry questions stavin final questions to you sorry if that's a problem
yes it is a problem grow up stavin well i don't think anybody does themselves any favors by
engaging in this kind of chit chat and so um and people lie or not jj i want to do your favor by
saying i've spoken to you privately many times and and i've said that to you you don't need to
engage in this jj but what you've spoken about today it was very important because i think
you've explained to us that notice that amad malik did not challenge intramuscular injection is dumb
in fact he didn't want to talk about it at all because he's not trying to win if he was trying
to win like i said he would say jay's a dick but he's right about this and he didn't say that
he didn't say it at all and none of them have said it i'm done i'm sorry that this didn't work out i'm
sorry that i'm not getting my message it's it's a lot of work it's a lot of work i've spent a lot
of time on this and i've done a lot of reading that this these date that these ideas come from
i'm not pulling them out of the air and i'm not making these judgments very very i was supporting
you i have i know you are i'm just saying that i'm kind of tired and i'm i don't have much more to
say because i shouldn't have to defend myself um you guys you know you at the my track record
speaks for itself you've got you've got hours and hours of of my stuff and and i've never ever ever
said um i i just got through saying today that i think mark bailey has had most of this right and
yet everybody ignores it i've just gotten through saying that they murdered people with specific
ways in specific places but now we everybody is still ignoring it and that is the message the
message is is that they murdered people because they had to and they took advantage of it to tell
a story to cover up all these lies that have been going on for a couple generations and if you want
to add to that 5g or magnetism or or control of the weather i don't care because it still stays
the same message intramuscular injection is dumb and they murdered people and lied about it in order
to make us teach our kids that it wasn't and if we don't focus on that point and that rna cannot
pandemic we're gonna be we're gonna be we're gonna we're done we're enslaved because we're
arguing about something that ultimately is not a first cause it's like you got to go down all the
way to the bottom and the bottom is is they will murder people and lie about it they've lied about
world war two they've lied about aids they lie about homelessness they lie about taxes they lie
about everything and they murdered people and they lied about that too that's it good steven
last question's comment we're finishing thank you jay well i still think that the most important
thing is to um change public opinion about or at least get a good 10 more people on our side in
in the uk for example um and i think that people are very confused about what's happened in the
last five years and they have no idea what's happened to them and the seriousness of it
and we need to explain to these people so i think i've said it before jj it's not a criticism it's
just you um you have uh how should i say you have such a knowledge of biology that some things are
so obvious to you you that they don't need to be said and i said it earlier i'll say it again just
to kind of nail it down and that i think it's not so much to me the public wouldn't understand that
intramuscular injection is dumb they might not understand the nuance of that and the other
things you've been saying so i think what the public need to understand is that they've been
lied to seriously lied to by their own government and psychologically tortured into a state of
stockholm syndrome and they don't even know it and they're still in that stockholm syndrome
and um and we need to tell people as often as we can there was no pandemic and there was no
covid 19 so what the hell will we look up for good okay thank you for that statement thank you
everybody for being here we'll see you next time let jj have the last word but he's out
he has the last word very okay please let charles have the last word i'm just
grateful to you guys even give me a microphone so thank you very much um thank you j thank you
steven thanks everybody thank you jayden for being here have a good night and we're back again not
not on new year's eve on new year's day we're back on sunday next week bye
thank you thank you for moderating difficult one today thank you thank you thank you thomas
for coming on thomas you you speak to more sense than almost everybody i i listened to well you
don't listen to many people anyway thomas well i do actually i do good okay thanks everybody bye
thanks bye bye happy new years happy new year thanks good idea happy new year see you next year
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