And Jane, so everybody welcome to Medical Doctors for COVID Ethics International.
In today's discussion, this group was founded by Dr. Stephen Frost over three years ago with a
desire to pursue truth, ethics, justice, freedom and health. Stephen has stood up against government
and power over the years and has been a whistleblower and activist, his medical specialty is radiology.
At this moment, we remember Rainer Fulmick, another fighter for freedom, a German US lawyer who's
currently unlawfully incarcerated in a German prison undergoing a German government show trial.
I have been informed today that there will be a physical demonstration in favor in supporting
Rainer on the 30th of November in Geneva, Switzerland. And anything that any of us can do to
highlight the plight of Rainer is necessary and appreciated. I'm Charles Cobes, the moderator of
this group. I'm in Melbourne, Australia. I practiced law for 20 years before changing career 31
years ago to become an educator and professional speaker. Over the last 14 years, I've helped
parents and lawyers to strategize remedies for vaccine damage and damage from bad medical advice.
Jane Ruby, our guest today may well be able to confirm that bad medical advice, in fact,
today is the number one killer in America. I'm also the CEO of an industrial hemp company.
We comprise lots of professions here and we're from all around the world.
Many of us thought the vaccines were okay. Now, many of us, including me,
proudly say yes, we are passionate anti-vaxxers.
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is doing just that in Ireland. Jerry will make his public policy available to us so we can get
the message out there. Most of us understand we're in the middle of World War III and the
medical science battle is only one of 12 battle fronts. There's no time to be tired. We're
four and a half years, I assess, into a seven-year war. And I've been saying to this group for
over a year, there will be a tipping point. And I consider after the event, I didn't consider this
before the US election, after the US election, I confidently say that the Trump election
on the 5th of November is a tipping point. And it is galvanizing people, people like us in this
meeting to say, hey, we have to push back against madness as Trump is doing. Most of us understand
the development of science and the science is never settled. This meeting runs for two and a
half hours after which for those with the time Tom Rodman runs a video telegram meeting, Tom puts
the links into the chat if you have the time and are able to join. We will listen to our guest
presenters today, Dr. Jane Ruby, for as long as Jane wishes to speak. And then we have Q&A.
Stephen Frost, via long established tradition, asks the first questions for 15 minutes.
This is a free speech environment with appropriate moderating. Free speech is crucially important in
our fight to preserve our human freedoms. You need to understand the beginning of the end of freedom
is the limiting of free speech. And I'm delighted again, that Donald Trump has made in
early stages a big deal of that. I also call on the Australian government to drop its
ridiculous move for a mad bill, MAD, the misinformation and disinformation bill. I mean,
what bureaucratic fool would call it a mad bill? If you're offended by anything, be offended. We
are lovingly not interested. We reject the offence industry that requires nobody to say
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We come with an attitude and perspective of love, not fear. Fear is the opposite of love. Fear
squashes you and enslave you. Love on the other hand, expands you, liberates you. These twice
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product or a great idea for improved health, put that details into the chat. The meeting is recorded
and is uploaded onto the Rumble channel. And now welcome to our guest presenter today, Dr. Jane
Rumi. Dr. Jane Ruby. Jane is famous. I'll give her a, we thank you so much Jane for giving us your
time and wisdom and insights. And I'll just share her short, short bio. Jane is a medical professional
and a former pharmaceutical drug development expert with over 20 years of experience in drug
approval in the USA and Europe. Dr. Ruby is the host of the Jane Ruby show currently on Rumble.
She spent 10 years in Washington DC and worked in the office of presidential correspondence during
the Trump, the first Trump administration. Jane has appeared on numerous TV shows, podcasts and
radio shows across America and is the author of the acclaimed book, Sea of New Media, about the
rise of citizen journalism in America. Jane is also highly published in US and global health
economics. So Jane, it's wonderful to have you and thank you again, Stephen Frost for creating this
group and for organizing Jane to speak to us today. Nice introduction, Charles. Very good.
Thank you. Jane, you can share your screen. You're in your hands for as long as you wish to speak.
Ah, wonderful. Well, first of all, Charles, thanks to you and Stephen and everyone for inviting me
back. I feel like a bit of an alumna to this group. I think I first spoke maybe two or three years ago
and you've had so many critical key people since then. So it's an honor to be among the speakers
once again. I'm very happy that it's a free speech platform because you're not going to
necessarily hear what you want to hear today in everything I say. I'm really well known for
stirring the pot, not for the sake of it. It all goes back to what I first started out with was
truth in medicine. I don't care where the truth takes me. I don't care if it leads me to
something I really don't want to know or that's uncomfortable for me to know about my favorite
politician, my government, people in the movement, and those kinds of things. So secondly, I wanted
to say that I've never restricted in any interview the questions. If I cannot answer it, I will say so
for whatever reason. Likewise, when I interview people on my show, I never limit or restrict them.
I have been restricted in some interviews. So thank you again all and thank you all for being
here. Your time is incredibly valuable. That has not been lost on me. Thank you for the
wonderful introduction. I wanted to expand a little bit on it because not just to sort of
you know rah rah for me, more importantly so that you'll understand some of my biases,
the basis for my analyses, some of my previous posts and public comments, and the like.
I am a medical professional. I'm not a physician. I've never claimed to be a medical doctor.
You couldn't pay me to be a medical doctor in this era that we're in. No offense to the medical
doctors who are with us and among us and you know understand the crimes that have been committed and
we're not part of them. I'm a nurse practitioner in the United States. In most states, you practice
independently. You overlap with medicine. You do not practice under the direction of a physician,
nor do you have your notes and your prescriptions co-signed. So we're very independent. My work has
been always in critical care in ICUs, you know managing very very sick patients. So I understand
the environment. I then went on to teach undergraduate and graduate nursing. So I've been
I'm a former professor. I've taught everything from physical assessment skills to theory.
And that's going to be important when we talk about issues like the hospitals and what they're
doing and the nurses that stayed as I call them. I went on to after teaching, I went on to
run a 10-bed polysomnographic clinic where I was working with one of the top five sleep researchers
in the United States for about three or four years. And we expanded to do multi-center trials for
pharma. So when pharma is doing their phase two A and B studies, you know to get the data,
the safety and efficacy package ready for the FDA to be evaluated for marketing,
that those were the studies I was doing externally. So I've had a seat at all kinds of you know
places in and around pharma, FDA, allopathic medicine, what we unfortunately call alternative
medicine. It's another issue. And then I was actually recruited because of my reputation
as an independent researcher. I was recruited by the pharma industry where I was for 20 years on
the medical affairs, clinical affairs, and research and development and regulatory departments.
Ten years across the first, I'm sorry, 20 years, the first 10 years was in one company.
A very good company. No longer exists, bought up by other companies, did mostly neuroscience work.
I've launched some of the most famous compounds in the world that you would readily recognize
across Alzheimer's, anxiety, depression, and the like. So it was really interesting to see the
sausage was made. Toward the end of my tenure, I actually, you know because I was so experienced,
could see a lot of the corruption in my own companies along the way, in other companies.
I became an internal whistleblower honestly, and it's across several companies because it's trying
to right the ship. You know they're mixing, you know they're violating anti-kickback laws,
they're promoting off-label, which became an issue. One of the reasons I learned quickly in 2020 that
this was a crime, a hoax, that the governments were all involved was when they started to lie
by saying things like, oh it's against the law to prescribe off-label. No it's not. No it's not,
and very few people were talking about it, but for me it was a clue to share with the public
that hey they're lying to you. It's a crime to promote it for a pharma company, but it's not a
crime to prescribe it. So we were off to the races, and so anyway, and that brings me to March 2020.
How did I get into this crazy thing? I got sick, and you know my doctor said, well because of your
age, okay I'm over a certain age, you know go get tested, drove through a drive up. Interestingly,
there was no nasal swab, it was a throat swab, and I thought I didn't think anything of it because
it wasn't until maybe several months later that it became the strange deep plunging nasal,
which is another whole story. And then I was told by my doctor several days later that I was positive
for this Chinese thing called COVID, right? Okay, all we knew back then was what we knew.
I was starting to get suspicious, but I didn't know a lot yet, so when my doctor called to tell me,
and I'm a fellow prescriber, I said okay you're gonna write for hydroxychloroquine, right? We
didn't really know or we're talking much about ivermectin at the time, so you're gonna write
for hydroxychloroquine and you know zithromax because some of these antibiotics had a little
bit of an extra or an additional mode of action and they were pulmonary protective or that was a
theory, prevents some of the quick conversion to pneumonias and all that. So his response to me
changed the world forever for me, and that's why I'm telling you this story.
He said to me, I can't do that unless you're in an ICU. Now all that was BS to me and I said,
well why would you wait till I was that sick? And his second response was, Jane, you're just
gonna have to tough this one out, and then he hung up on me. And you have to remember in March of
2020, the bits and pieces we had were that some people did these, got in the, converted into
these flashed pneumonias at around day 10. So he could have been leaving me to die, right? Okay,
I did make it through obviously. I called the nurse practitioner in his office the next day,
like a sneaky thing, and said, could you at least phone in the zithromax? I just want to protect my
lungs. I don't know what else to do, blah blah blah. Okay, she did and that was the end of it.
So that was my foray into this, and I was already connected. I was living in DC. I was, it's 2020,
right? I got there in 2010, and I started, I had my own podcast already, but it was purely political.
I never used my medical background. I did have the great honor through the invitation and
connections of the wife of Justice Clarence Thomas, Ginny Thomas, who's an activist in her
own right and a lawyer, and very revered in the conservative movement in the United States,
put me together with some people at the White House, and I worked in the office of, I took
a sabbatical from the pharma industry, and I worked in the office of presidential correspondence,
really managing, it sounds like you're opening the mail for the First Family. It's a lot more
involved, and it's a great honor. It's your privy to all the mail that the American public is sending,
gifts. It was a great time to be there. It was a great honor to do that work. So we also had the
Trump Hotel. This lobby was mammoth, if any of you have ever been there. It became the watering hole,
the water cooler, literally, around the world. People would come to DC, they immediately just
go right to the Trump Hotel. And most of us were there almost every night, because there were
meetings and events and things going on. So I just want to give you a flavor from my experience in DC,
the access that I had to many, many people that you've heard of, public and private events
that I was honored to be invited to. So I also worked, by the way, on the Trump's 2016 campaign,
so that was that piece of it. Okay, so that's my background. Happy to, you know, when we get to the
Q&A, you're happy to answer any questions about that or clarify anything. I was intrigued when
Stephen and Charles invited me again, because I thought, well, I must have said something.
I must have posted something that piqued their interest. And you can let me know what that is,
you know, at any time. But I think you basically... But the reason I invited you, if you remember,
was because I saw a video of you just before, like the weekend before the recent election.
And I recognized, I think I recognized correctly the terror in you, because I felt it myself,
that Trump would not win. It wasn't so much that Trump was going to save everyone. It was more
that it would have been extremely depressing to have had Kamala Harris gaslighting us all for
another four years. So, and I noticed that you were terrified and you were talking about that
nothing had been done about the election fraud. And I thought you had your finger right on the
button. And that's... And also, I liked the way you were talking. You were very confident, you're
very articulate, and you know how to make points. So, I just thought you were wonderful. Your
authenticity shone through for me. And you said tonight, I don't care where the truth takes me.
That's exactly what I feel. I will go anywhere where the truth takes me. There's absolutely
no point in going anywhere else. But unfortunately, many people who are on our side,
in particular on our side, because they really matter, they will only go to certain places.
So, that's why I invited you. Thank you, Stephen. Yeah, great explanation. And I appreciate
the kind words. I had terror in my eyes, not because Trump might have lost.
Let's get the bias out on the table. For those of you who do follow my social media, you won't be
surprised to hear me say I'm terrified for the United States and the rest of the world.
And I'm going to tell you why. You know, I live in the medical place. And when these shots first
came out, and when I started to see there wasn't enough information, there wasn't enough work done
on them... Remember, this is my wheelhouse, this sausage making. Where is the pharmacokinetics? How
do I know how long this drug lasts? How do I know where it goes? Where's the work done in animals
if we're going to give this to children and pregnant women? And I got angry about it.
And as I learned more and more, I fully expected Trump to pivot and out of concern for the people.
He never pivoted. You know, for me, the anchor is this poison that they've created,
that they have a 50% non-disclosure leeway that that Pfizer and Moderna negotiated with the EMA
first and then the FDA. And that is that they don't have to... Let me just give you guys a little
touch. If maybe anybody who's in the audience that has worked in pharma, you'll agree with me.
We couldn't change the color on a box without putting together a whole package, assuring the
FDA that we weren't changing anything else, verifying the formula even though it had nothing
to do with the formula. But they could have a 50%... What that means is, and it's true to this day,
they can change the formula. The concentration, the type of genetic material,
they can put stuff in there that we'll never know unless somebody like Dr. Murakami in Japan,
Kevin McKernan, there's a list of people. Wonderful. They've done wonderful work.
Dr. Young-Mi Lee in Korea, who I definitely want to talk about today because you need to have her
or talk to her. So I say to people, this is the most dastardly diabolical crime
I could ever imagine. They've covered everything. They switch it up. And listen, kudos to
my great friend and colleague, Sasha Ladoeva of Team Enigma with Dr. Yeeden, Craig Pardakeuper,
because that whole work they did on the, you know, using the pieces they had from theirs
to look at lot numbers and see incredible variations, like way beyond what statistical
analyses would allow within the same lot, which they said there's only one explanation. There's
different material in the same and labeled the same lot number. This is how tricky it is.
And then you have the work of Dr. Daniel Nagase, the Canadian emergency room physician,
who was also more importantly, a molecular biologist who understands and is trying to
help people understand that this is not a one-off. The world should be really pissed off.
This is a permanent change. And in another two or three generations, when your grandchild
goes to mate with their partner as an adult and start a family, nobody's going to know
whose grandparent took it and who didn't. Maybe a couple will. But then the great-great-grandchildren,
and this is going to be so blended. These are foreign protein. I know you know a lot of this.
Genetic material, some of it's from, you know, enduring cancer cells, some of it's from different
animal species, some of it's made in silico with God knows whatever put together Frankenstein,
and they don't have to disclose half of it. So when people say, Dr. Jane, you got to give me some
hope. What do I do to detox? Well, the reason that's a hard question to answer is because if
you don't know what you've got, you don't know what you're detoxing. Now I'm all for general
detox. Get the metals out. I'm with Dr. Lee Merritt on, you know, regular detox, parasites,
cleanses, the whole bit. Get your body in the best possible shape because nobody knows the
extent of the design that God created. That's what I hang on to. If you get the body everything it
needs, it might be able to, I don't know. We don't know what it is. So people say, well, I got the
MRR, I got the COVID, or I got the major. You don't know what you got on any given day,
in any geographic location, even within the same lot number. See, I'm connecting all those dots I
just laid out for you. Brilliant. Jane, I've been astonished how few people understand what you've
just articulated. We never knew what was in these shots, and we certainly didn't know what was in
all the shots. So it was just crazy. People saying, people who weren't doctors, you know,
who wanted to dance on the graves of doctors. Yes, that's fine. But you don't replace one
tyranny by another tyranny. And so people saying, as you've just pointed out so brilliantly, that,
you know, you can't detox something out of the, out of human beings if you don't know what was
in the shots. Well, we know some technologies like CRISPR-Cas9 is a technology that can clip
genetic material at the nanol, you know, that gets everything's at the nano level and replace it.
But the FDA has tons of guidance documents for industry saying, 15 years ago saying,
gene therapy, you don't know where it goes. You don't know how long it's active. You don't know
how to get it out. You don't know if it acts differently in children. And of course, they
didn't do the pharmacokinetics. So we don't know it, which just blows my mind. But I want to give
to what dovetail off of what you just said, Steven, I want to give kudos to some of the earlier people
that came to me. They didn't know where else to go. And they saw me, you know, on this podcast,
right? When I started in March, April, 2021. And I was coming out, I discovered Lequinta Columna
for the United States. I mean, nobody else was talking about them. There was, you know,
you know, the group now, I'm sure, and incredible work. And I said, Oh, whoa. And they wrote up a
report. And I just we just blasted it for many, many weeks. And then people I took a lot of slings
and arrows, you know, I was the heretic for graphene oxide, you know, I had the Atlantic USA Today,
everybody was after me, but I knew eventually it would be it would be vindicated. And people would
say, Oh, my God, there's graphene oxide in some of these things here and there. I want to give kudos
to Dr. Philippe van Wellbergen in the UK, who is a family doctor with a microscope, who said,
My patients that were jab were getting sick and tired, and that we couldn't figure it out. And we
would do regular blood tests, but nothing was showing up. So we looked at their blood under a
microscope. And he was one of the first people I ever heard talk about visually seeing structures,
okay, foreign bodies that are not supposed to be in blood, right. And Dr. Zandre Batha from Johannesburg,
South Africa, I'm sure I think you've had her on or maybe maybe I'm thinking of another group.
If you haven't, you should but she's a wet and dry microscopy expert. And she's a naturopath who uses
like molecular hydrogen and rife thing. And she sees like hundreds of jab patients a month. She
was one of the first to put it under the microscope. She was getting sick from it when she was in close
by, even though she was gloved and all that. So these are the early pioneers that said, Hey,
something's wrong. There's a lot of bad stuff in here. I want to jump a little bit on that note to
Oh, the other thing I want the audience to know if you haven't connected me to it.
I broke the worldwide story of the embalmer clots. And the way that happened, the story was actually
stolen from me. And it was that's for another night. And it was developed into a documentary
that actually had a lot of problems with it. So ultimately, it was I feel like God was protecting
me by not having me in it. But so I wanted to let you know about the embalmer clots. And we can if
you have questions about that, we can talk about it. But the way that came to me was one of the three
DoD whistleblowers, if you know, Dr. Lieutenant Colonel, Dr. Peter Chambers, Lieutenant Colonel,
Dr. Teresa long, Major Dr. Sam Sigaloff, and a couple other people, Mark Basha. These were the
people that blew the DMED. This was the military database, the the defense, the medical epidemiology
database, it was a lot more pristine than VAERS for recording injuries. Because it was only
physicians could input, it wasn't like the general public and families and patients. They blew the
whistle on that. And they were showing, hey, this is not just some goofy thing happening in the public.
Our military is forced to take it, they're getting sick. We're she she Dr. Teresa long was
grounding fighter pilots. She called me one day, I didn't even know her. She just said, I've seen
your work. You're pretty gutsy. I know this won't get buried. I said, Okay, what is it? She said,
I was at a funeral at Fort Rucker in Alabama. And the embalmer came over to me to the side and said,
I need to talk to you. And he told her what he was starting to see. And put us together.
And I broke the story in January of 2022. You would have thought that would have shut everything
down in the world. Wouldn't you? With these shots? Stop. Stop. Don't touch the babies. Stop
giving it to pregnant women. Stop the most vulnerable first. Not a peep. And let me share
one other thing about the pharma industry. If something happened publicly with our drug or
product, there was a clamp down like you wouldn't believe. Refer everybody to public relations,
so CEO off it. Don't talk. Don't answer any paparazzi. Okay. This happened over and over
and over. All these reports, everything you're aware of it worldwide. Not a peep. Never heard
Pfizer come out, Moderna, AstraZeneca, Novavax. Oops, we're sorry. Listen, we were rushing it.
The government told nothing. You know why? Because they know they don't have to. Because they know
they're covered in the crime that they're committing. I want to mention and I want to
watch the time. I do want to leave. I have plenty of time, by the way. You can kick me out, but I
want to leave good enough time for Q&A. Just go stream of consciousness as long as you like.
Don't stress about that. And it's great that you've got time. And then Steven,
it's so I love coming to you guys. Yeah. So Jane, can I just explain? So these videos,
I've realized laterally, I didn't really realize it before, but they're a kind of educational tool,
if you like, for our friends. And so if you think things are important, please spell it out so that
people understand the importance of what you're saying. Do you understand me? Okay. So we're
trying to make the best videos we can. Oh, wonderful. Okay. And you know, to that point,
I, my show, you know, show, it's a lack of a better word, we just call it that, this whatever
that I'm doing. I see it. And I've said to the audience over in Oregon, I see it as medical
information, medical education, deciphering things for you so you don't get stonewalled and
gaslighted, because we've we see how badly that is. I actually don't like to do it. I like to do
interviews. I love people. But I for the show, I prefer to just be me teaching, talking,
taking questions from the audience, those kinds of things, because I really want it to be educational.
Not many other people are doing what I do. Okay. So thank you for that. Now, I want to mention,
since we're starting to talk about that, my big concern is the shots. The shots are ongoing. It's
it's lockstep. Nothing has changed. We've had distraction after distraction. For my money,
I'm just going to give you a quick little aside. I don't believe federal elections, at least in the
United States are real anymore. Funny how we they stole it in 2020, which I do believe there was,
you know, all kinds of fraud, signs of fraud. They stole it, they rioted, even though they won.
But now Trump wins clean, handy, everybody on the left is over with Trump. You got Tulsi Gabbard,
the socialist, you got Robert Kennedy, who said, I'm not talking to him until he disavows the show.
And now they're all together like one happy family. And he won, he won. And there's no riot in this.
There's a couple of, you know, here and there in New York City, whatever.
We're not getting the fall of love or the winter of love, are we? Everybody seems to be happy.
So just want to say, I'm in the medical place. I'm in the mRNA thing. This poison is saturating
our planet. It's saturating our animals, our food supply, the people that have been jabbed for,
I was very suspicious when these governments and the military leadership around the world and
everybody, these industries like the airline industry, I had people, relatives that were
captains in airlines that said, you wouldn't believe this. They're behind the closed doors.
They're yelling at us and swearing at us and you better take it. The drive to not only get people
to take it, but over and over again, the lies that I could see, the medical lies. Well, it's 95%. I
know we said it was 95% safe and effective, but we found it's really only 50. So you better take
another one. None of it made sense to me. And so that was an issue for me. But so for me,
it's the concern that the human genome, and I'm going to quote Dr. Negassi, has been poisoned.
And now they want self-amplifying. Now that means, to my understanding from the experts,
you get injected with it and it multiplies itself. Like going to the gas station,
I tell people you pump in 10 gallons of gas, but within an hour, the gas multiplies itself
and you got 20 gallons. You only paid for 10, but you got 20. Well, that might be great for gas,
but it's not good for a poison that's never been properly tested. And that we believe,
I believe through the work of Catherine Watt, the Pennsylvania paralegal, we've worked very closely
together for three years. She has all the receipts, all the proof. Her substack is Baileywick News,
Sasha's is due diligence and I know you know of both of them. This is a mass genocide program
that is being conducted by primarily the American Department of Defense, but it goes all the way up
to Bank of International Settlements. That's why it's all lockstep around the world. I think the
time is pretty much too late to stop it from saturating everything. That's why there's a nice
little calm right now, isn't there? I'm concerned. I'm concerned about my family members, the little
ones who didn't take it, their parents didn't take it, I didn't take it, but they have to go forward
in this world and I'll be long gone, but they're going to have to figure out who's poisoned, who's
not. Why isn't anybody that I know of working on a detox? Because that would require
them having to tell you maybe more about what's in there. I don't know if you all know this or
maybe some of you do, but I started asking the question publicly when Robert Malone was trotting
around bragging about inventing it. His words, not mine. If you invented it, then you must know it
intimately, whether you meant it for good or bad. Why aren't you in the lab day and night finding
the antidote to this thing that's killing babies in the womb, it's dropping 10-year-olds dead on a
field instead of chicken dinners? And I got sued for $25 million in a false defamation case,
which was dismissed by a federal judge and he was nonpartisan because he was appointed by Bill
Clinton, but he dismissed that case, he dismissed the other $25 million case that Malone brought
at the same time against Dr. Peter Bregan and his wife Ginger, two amazing human beings and great
doctor and writers and humanitarians. And just before that, our cases got dismissed. The judge,
same judge, same court also dismissed a fake defamation case against Washington Post. I'm
no fan of the Washington Post, left-wing lying rag. And it went down this thing. But it took,
you know, I was innocent for asking a question, but it took 18 months and $61,000 just to get
to a motion to dismiss. So in the meantime, a lot of these people in those worlds, I'm shunned out,
which is fine. They're all dirty anyway, as far as I'm concerned. But a lot of those people just
gone along talking, you know, gee, lipid nanoparticle here, you know, genetic thing,
oh yeah, we've got to stop it. Take my onion powder though for $60. Here's a jar, I'm selling it.
What? Meanwhile, nothing has changed, prove me wrong, from 2021 when these shots were rolled out,
except that not as many companies are mandating it. And when the government mandated it, well,
the federal government mandated it in the US, let me explain to you what that meant.
All 535 scum on Capitol Hill, and I don't say that lightly, everyone in the House and the Senate,
is dirty, bought and paid for. How do you know, Jane? What have they done? If I see another
hearing, I think I'm going to have a heart attack myself. Hearings and hearings and hearings.
Hearings and hearings, done nothing. And to make matters worse, they exempted themselves
and their 3000 staffers and 800,000 Chinese exchange students and the post office and maybe
a couple of other, and all the illegal aliens that are just flooding through the Darien Gap up through
Mexico, processed by the NGOs. And you know how dangerous this is for our country? Not only are
they processed and given resources and then sent up into the US, but a great number of them have
been naturalized. So when you put that person into a police officer's uniform and then one of us says,
well, you're not a citizen, you don't have any power. Oh, I am a citizen. This is how, as Dr.
Shiva says, this is a multi-pronged approach. This is a death by a thousand cuts. And so I want to move
to the discovery I found in July, a Korean doctor, really interesting person. Could I just ask you,
whether you just mentioned something very extremely interesting then to me, exempted themselves.
You're talking about members of Congress, are you the House and the Senate?
Yes. And let me toss in one other piece, because you may put it in your question. Not only do they
exempt themselves and their staff, a number of them we have found in their federal financial
disclosure forms that are filed. Everyone has to file one who's serving. I'm not going to nitpick
on every little stock they own, but I will call out people like Marjorie Taylor Greene, Rand Paul,
all these people, these scumbags who own Gilead. Gilead makes remdesivir. Do you know how many
people I've had on my show who tell the story of how they stood behind the glass while they watched
their loved one in an ICU get force injected and the infusions of remdesivir over their protests
over and over again until the person's organs stopped and then they got to put them on a vent.
These people own that stock, but they hold hearings on the COVID injured.
Okay, I'm sorry, Stephen. I got passionate for a minute.
So, Marjorie Taylor Greene, I'd like to talk to you about her later.
Sure, well, I'd love to talk about her.
Rand Paul, going on about gain of function research, which I don't think they could ever do.
They could ever do. It's just been put about as a false narrative. But anyway, what I wanted to hear
was who exactly was exempted. So these people at Congress, the senators and the House of
Representatives, they exempted themselves, but they also exempted their staffers. Three thousand,
did you say? Or five thousand, was it? Three thousand and I left out the White House and
the White House staff. Yes, and then you mentioned, right, I'm just White House.
Okay, and the Chinese, who were they? Sorry?
There's information that eight hundred thousand Chinese exchange students, now they're in and out,
that was negotiated. They do not have to take the COVID shots to come in and out.
Wow. So do you think, Jane, sorry about this, but do you think that the Chinese Communist Party
were behind what the DOD did? No.
Was this treason? No, I think they were part of it. I think
Pharma was part of it, like now Pharma. To me, Pharma and the DOD are merged in President
Trump's September 19th, 2019 executive order that he signed. If you read the short version of it,
you can easily see what he's done is he merged all the alphabet agencies, FDA, CDC, NIH,
under the Department of Health and Human Services, which answers to the DOD, which then was in lock
step with the World Health Organization, which is not a health organization, as you know, it's the
military arm of the UN. And then it goes up to the UN. So what I'm saying is he consolidated them.
And this was the only plausible explanation for me to understand how does an agency like the FDA,
I lived practically in the world of the FDA for 20 years.
How do they go from, there was corruption here and there and you know, they got some companies got
to do what, okay, I get it. I'm talking about you don't need to do studies. Oh, your eight rat study.
Oh, that's fine. We'll give you, you've got, you can market the new variant.
No, something changed. And that was one of the things that changed. And these agencies,
it's a joke that they meet to evaluate the data, the data from what there's no data.
Nobody's running phases one through four studies, which are the clinical phase for human beings,
right. And any of this stuff, and the scary thing is, and I want to get this in before I forget,
that the seasonal flu shots are mRNA. If you don't believe me, look at the interview of Albert Borla
in January of 2023 at Davos when the giddy reporter says, you've been talking about
mRNA in the flu shots. How's that going? So, oh, we've recruited it. We finished, we got to unblind.
We'll put it together. We'll see who gets sick and then we'll have, and he says, well, this is January,
February. Now you're talking to somebody who understands it takes several years to get your
first in, first out. Okay. And he says to the guy, the reporter says, well, how soon will we have a
flu, mRNA flu vaccine? And Borla says, oh, June, July, June, July of 2023. So when I'm pumping out
those things on my social media, you know, as big as that, do not take a flu shot, do not take a flu
shot. Because then when they challenge me, I'll educate them on the reply. That's why.
You've seen the US childhood vaccination schedule. It's so frightening. It's just,
they start them at six months and they ram it all the way through. And then if you figure out that
some of those flu shots that the babies get, like hemophilus, influenza B, some of these other ones
that they don't need, those are mRNA based by now. And everything's going to be mRNA based.
You're, if they come up with, if they come up with a, a bird flu, which they are, and we have
ACAM 2000, which is a live smallpox, you have to quarantine yourself for two weeks from your family
because you have a live vaccine, a material in you that could make somebody else sick. I mean,
the absurdity is crazy. And all these, these vaccines, I'm with David, Dr. David Martin from
day one, we've been friends and colleagues on the, it's not a vaccine because you're giving the
criminals cover and it's not a vaccine. But when they come out with these things, they're going to
call vaccines for bird flu, monkeypox. I try to educate people in the simplest way so they don't
have to get all, you know, crazy. And I say, start what, stay close to the beginning of what you know.
You know, the PCR test is a fraud, right? So if you know it's a fraud and they say,
Hey, we're getting increased cases of monkeypox or bird flu. How'd you diagnose it?
PCR. Bye. Bye. Very good, Jane. Very good. Right. So just start at the beginning. I try to,
cause I think it gives people a lot of power to shut their, you know, murder,
murderous doctors down when they try to push something, shingles shots. I don't trust that.
I mean, anything that's injected and it's coming from the pharma industry, I don't trust. I don't
trust, you know, a dental anesthetics. I don't trust Botox and fillers, you know, and it's too
bad that the world went this way because I'm at an age where, you know, it's kind of wish I could
use it. But anyway, just a little funny there, but I want to talk about Dr. Young Mi Lee really
quickly. She is a Korean OBGYN and I love this because people would say, ah, she's just an OBGYN.
Okay. What she did was with another colleague, Dr. Daniel Braude, who I believe is an American
expat and he, and he is living in Okinawa. They got together and they designed a study,
a longitudinal observational study. What does that mean? It's not randomized. It's you can't,
it's a different design because you have a different research question. They wanted to take
two things. One, a little bit of biological material from people who got the shots.
And second thing they wanted to observe was material directly from the Moderna and Pfizer
shots. And they did like, you know, parallel observational, they incubated it. You have to
read the report. I've put it out. I did a three-part interview with her. It's, it will blow your mind.
I don't want to get ahead of myself. Incubated it. She's already two years, when she came, they came
out with the first publication three months ago. It was two years. They've got two years of data.
And I said, when are you going to stop? She said, I'm going to keep going.
Let's start with the Pfizer and Moderna materials. She incubated them across different temperatures,
body temperature, room temperature. She incubated them in different media like normal saline,
close to the body, salinity, distilled water, you know, benign things.
And she's reporting, by the way, she's a stereomicroscopy expert. If you know what a
stereomicroscope is, it is specifically to look at three-dimensional objects. So when they said,
oh, she's just an OBGYN, I said, tell me a little bit about yourself. How did you know this expertise?
Turns out she did a long, not a fellowship, but a long stint at the University of Chicago
in microscopy and taught that stereomicroscopy. She's seeing three-dimensional object. What do I
mean by that? Three-dimensional. Okay. These things are assembling themselves. Then after a
month or two, they disassemble themselves. And then maybe a month or two later, they reassemble
again. I said, have you tested it? You know, the pipette, you know, like chemically, because I'm
always like, what is it? Analyze, what's the chemical? She said, I don't want to disturb it.
I want to first establish how long it's doing. So that's that. Okay. Both products, almost similar.
And the things that are growing in there look very similar to me to what Dr. Van Wellenberg
in the UK reported, what Dr. Zandri Batha in South Africa showed me. And I have all these files. They
have their own files, but I have copies of all that. I can go back and see these. Okay.
The biological material, the other part of her study, they took semen from men who had gotten the
shots two years prior. Right? You think, big question is, how long does it last? Is it still
in my body? Well, it looks like something is still going on two years later. And the other material
was urine. So there were some women and men for the urine, men for the semen.
And they're growing all kinds of structures. You can look at, she's got a report that it was published
in January, I'm sorry, July. And she breaks it all down. And here's another interesting thing.
She also looked at the material, you know, in the medium, and then put it near different energy
sources. This will blow your mind too. Puts it near a, I don't have one with me, an external charger,
you know, that you can hook up to your phone when you're run down. When that thing is on and charging,
the EMF is off the charts. And it showed because those things were growing things faster.
Look, I've never been one to say, you know, when they came up with the, oh, these things are,
I can hold a spoon to my arm and I'm magnetic. And, you know, there's this and there's that.
I've always been very skeptical. You got to, I got to corroborate. I got to see it over and over again.
But these things she's showing you. And, you know, she's showing you, she's got the pictures,
she put another one near, and she's got the EMF, you know, counter. She puts, put that near
your, um, Wi-Fi, the router, a lot of increased activity. It's, it'll really open your eyes. But
you guys, where I, where I go with that is I take it back up to 30,000 feet
and I say to myself, we're in trouble. Who, who's doing this? Who, who is getting away with
poisoning the earth, killing off the future of our babies? Because this guy's semen was growing a lot
of foreign materials. Some of it looked metallic. And how are you going to procreate? And if you do,
what are you making? At the end of the interview with her, I asked her if she was afraid for her
life. And she said, yes, I am. And I, I'm a woman of God. I'm a Christian. She said,
I ask your audience to pray for me. I did go back to her several weeks later, because she said,
when you see the second part of our report, what we found, you're just, you know, oh, wow. I can't
even, I can't imagine anything more horrific than what you've already shown me. So I went back to
her a few weeks later, like, you know, is there anything, do you want to, you know, come on the
show? I mean, is there anything new that you mean? And she said, not quite yet. And I think that
after she did a few interviews, including mine, I think she was harassed. She was harassed at work,
you know, through the authorities, you know, of course, for other reasons and other things.
But I didn't talk to, I haven't talked to Dr. Braude. But that was, that was, that was the story
of Dr. Young Mi Lee, last name is Lee, L-E-E. And I think if you look it up, just put her name,
Young Mi is the name Young, like as opposite of old, and then M-I, Young Mi Lee, and put in incubation,
that article will come up. And it's a, it's like a 65 page medical report
about the methodology and the results step by step.
Where was she working, Jane? She is still in obstetrics and gynecology, in a hospital,
in I believe she's in Seoul. But here's an interesting thing you just reminded me of
with that question. I asked her in the beginning, how did you even think of doing this?
And her answer was very interesting to me, but very chilling. She said,
the miscarriages that jabbed women have are different from non-jab. So you got to be kidding
me. How? And I want to get this right, because I'm not an OB-GYN expert. She said, in spontaneous
natural abortion, she said the baby stops growing, the heart stops, the baby dies for some reason,
maybe there's a genetic thing, and then the placenta shuts down, bleeds, whatever it does.
What she was seeing and putting the pattern together was that in the jabbed women,
even though they were able to conceive and start to gestate, she said the placenta
started having anomalies and later on when they could see that, I think it was autopsy,
damage got destroyed and then the baby died. So the baby was killed by the processes that attacked
placenta. There were times in this interview when I don't mind telling you all,
I had to stop for a minute or two and just compose myself.
So when you see me out there and I'm an obnoxious bitch to people, people that say,
that's nothing wrong. What are you mad at Trump for? What are you mad at this one for? What are
you mad at that one? Well, we now have a vice president-elect, I don't know if you know this,
who's invested with the other little darling, Vivek Ramaswamy, who I call Pharma Swami,
in millions of dollars in mRNA factories. Why? Why do we need more when we haven't even addressed?
Yes, exactly. So is that JD Vance that you're talking about?
I'm talking about JD Vance. JD Vance is a primary person in a company called, here's the word,
Amplify Bio. They're going to make billions of doses of mRNA and don't forget,
I don't know if you guys know this, but the founders of Biontech,
those German expats that live in, or Turkish expats that are in Germany, they started
Biontech, you know, Biontech and Pfizer. That would be Aslam Terisi and Uğur Sahin. They developed
mRNA into shots for cancer and they got kind of pushed aside. Then they hit pay dirt with the
COVID thing and Pfizer and now they're coming back. Imagine being across the table, somebody
like me who's had two primary breast cancers, radical mastectomy, melanoma, each, I know the
feeling when a doctor looks at you and says, I'm sorry, but your biopsy was positive and it's
aggressive. The fear, I can't begin to explain to you the fear and it hijacks your mind. You know
how easy it's going to be to get people to run for that mRNA vaccine? This is a speeding up of
depopulation. You know, sometimes Occam's razor is just Occam's razor, right?
So, lots to think about. So Jane, you're a wonderful storyteller.
Thank you. You're the best storyteller we've had. Thank you.
I wish it was a fairy tale. I honestly, to God, wish it was a fairy tale. I have loved ones on
this earth that are little. I'm older, but they're not going to get a full chance like I got.
All right, Jane, are you ready for questions?
Well, I'm ready.
She knows she wants to finish.
Well, I don't think I have much more and some more might come out as I go through the whole
as I cover your questions. I think that was...
Well, you Jane are a risk, Stephen, the questions you ask her.
Yes, but she might have something important to say now, which she forgets about later.
I'll wrap up with the fact that I'm very disappointed. I don't want to do too much
of the political unless you want to. I'm not restricting, but I can talk about the medical
and the concerns I have about the unchecked mRNA. Everybody's building it. You got Moderna
building hundreds of plants all over the world. African countries that are starving and poor.
Sure, we'll take a hundred million to build a factory. I mean, it's madness. There's going
to be nowhere to go and hide. But I want to wrap up where I started really quick, two minutes.
I'm thoroughly disgusted with President Trump from day... I know some of you are celebrating.
It's happy. Obviously, nobody wanted Kamala Harris, but that's rise above that and understand that
it's all the same. It's all the same. Not only has he never acknowledged the injuries,
the decimation to our US military, and I know that from the inside,
but he tells you it's the greatest accomplishment of mankind. And I, the heretic that I am, call
RFK Jr. a fraud. Why do I do that? Everybody loves him. He's the hope. I'll tell you why.
His own vice president nominee, Nicole Shanahan, says in an interview several months ago,
we're not going over to support President Trump if Bobby thinks that he's going to fold down the
campaign and go with another candidate. We're not going with Trump until he disavows. So the
interviewer is Adam Carolla, and the interviewer says disavows the shots, and she goes, everything,
everything he did, the lockdown, the this, the transfer of wealth.
Where do you think that PPE money came from to companies that eventually went out of business
anyway? They bled my country dry to transfer that wealth. He added $12 trillion. You feel like
celebrating? I don't. I don't feel like drinking champagne because we're going to go into this
presidency and nobody is talking about the shots. And I called her out and said,
how did you guys get flipped? How did you and Bobby Kennedy get flipped? Because he's over
with Trump now. Has anybody heard him say they're going to stop the COVID mRNA shots?
How can you when your vice president is heavily invested?
Good point. We're in trouble.
All right. Jayne, brilliant. Next one. Before Stephen.
Albert. I see Albert, my old buddy.
Yeah. So we've got four hands up.
Another guy who's there from day one.
Stephen was from the day one. That's true. And a number of people here were, in fact, many have
been years before day one, including Curtis Cost. I think 1991, he came out hard against
children's vaccines. Now, Stephen will have the next 15 minutes and then we've got hands up. So
questions. Jayne, or in fact, all of us, you know, the question for us when we're dealing with human
beings, and I really want everyone to get this. Not one of you on this call and not one of us on
this call is perfect. Stephen Frost is not perfect. And especially me, Charles.
And we've got to be wise, just like the story I'll tell you is in terms of matrimonial
affairs and spies. OK, the accusation is made. Stephen, Tom Rodman is a spy. Charles Covess is a spy.
Ronald Owens from the California. Great to see you, Ron, is a spy. Or, or,
or, you know, Martinez is a fraud. And we throw these labels around willy nilly. Now, since no one
is perfect, and you then look at you then look at Christ, the 12 apostles that he brought around
himself. Every one of them was significantly flawed in the behaviour of Bobby Kennedy or Trump
or whatever. You know, I think we need to understand I think, I think a truism that is quite helpful.
Perfect is the enemy of good. Absolutely. You can have a good. Perfect encourages people to join
cults. Perfect. If you say this is not a good this, this is this is not perfect. I don't want
a good solution. And even in this group, Jane, everybody, we have different opinions about what
the road forward is. Sure. And we come to these meetings and all the people you've interviewed,
Jane, and from all of these conversations, we form a view. But but as soon as we put someone
into a box, as soon as you put as soon as you put me into a box and say you're an idiot, Karen's an
idiot, you cease to understand. And I just think, you know, I've seen accusations about Jane, I've
seen accusations about all sorts of people that are going, Okay, what's my experience? And there's
a wonderful Latin maxim used in the law, raise ipsa locata, the facts speak for themselves. And
you look at what Jane is sharing with us today. Great. That's a fact. Jane has shared information
with us, Stephen is going to be asking questions. That's a fact. And then and then the job, our job
is to get all of these bits of information and form an opinion. So that's, that's what I urge
all of us to do. Because if we wipe somebody who can be a wonderful freedom fighter, because
because they fart in public, we are doing ourselves a disservice. So that's why we come from love.
Let me be let me just touch on that for a second. A candlestick maker is judged by the quality of
his candles. A butcher is judged by the quality of his meat. A politician who's going to be given
great power, if he or she wins, is judged on their word and their integrity. And I don't mean
perfection. They're judged on their integrity. And yes, and Jane, that's an excellent point.
And, and, you know, the the I've been involved in politics for 30 years. And, you know, there are we
all know, we're wise enough, there's a lot of old heads here, that you should you make these statements
and this judgment. That's a great question. How do we judge? And that's, you know, I learned that
through the political process. Perfect is the enemy of good. And we say a politician shouldn't
make that compromise. And, you know, then you've got a politician in a in a 52 48 votes, 48% of his
electorate doesn't want him to do certain things that 52 do. So it's lovely and beautifully complex.
That's why we have to have discussions. And we have to care about each other as we're having
discussions. Yes. And let's throw in that when a politician flips 180 degrees,
that's not just that's not an issue of good to perfect. It's really flipping. Yep. When you have
somebody who is pro life in 2016, and now says I want a woman to have more than six weeks to have
an abortion in the state I live in, you know, in the states, we make our, which we make our own rules
around a lot of things, and you don't like it, go move to another state. That was the idea. But, but
back to the point, this guy was the NRA poster boy. And now, in it, it in, you know, enacted
red flag laws, which if you don't, I don't know if you know what those are, but you don't need any
due process. She's if I don't like my neighbor, I say, you know, Dave scares me. And I think he's
got guns in the house, they go and they take them. And that's it. Well, there was a discussion
at the end of Trump's first term. And he was asked about that. And he said, Well, no, no, no,
I think you should take the guns first and go to court later. Not in America. Not in America.
I was born and raised by legal immigrants to this country who kissed the ground once they got here,
and they were conservative and Second Amendment and First Amendment. And that's why they came here.
Where we don't take the guns and then go to court later. That's not America. Sorry. Okay,
sorry, Stephen. Well, yes. So exactly. What a ridiculous. Thanks for your statement.
He said these things. But people are dancing in the street. But and he said these things,
he flipped these positions. But here's the thing when people say to me, thousands said to me,
Well, Jane, do you want Kamala? Of course not, you moron. But what about a third option? What about
having a town hall, these town halls? How about asking him the questions? How about putting his
feet to the fire and saying, No, sir, sir, that's not acceptable. We want you to you know, we want
you a little more over here. So Jane, where are your parents from? I just want to know that.
They're from what's pencil fuel. I stupidly did that 23 and me thing, which I thought was a,
you know, trying that later found out it was a Chinese, you know, kind of spy thing from a
guy that I dated in DC years ago. He goes, Why'd you do that thing, idiot? But but my all four
grandparents came through Ellis Island from Sicily. Oh, but the 23 and me says there's a ton of
Greek. There's a ton of Greek and there's a ton of there's Italy, a ton of Greek and a little bit of
Spain and Turkey. So I'm a mutt. Wonderful. And that's why you understand things so well.
Maybe have you so I love my country. I fear it's government. So related to that,
Muhammad Ali was maybe quoting someone else and I don't know who that was. But he said,
most people when they see a group, they see safety. I see a group. And I'm afraid this is
Muhammad Ali, the boxing world champion, the probably the best boxer ever. So and so I think
he's right. So I think the problem is Jane, we don't understand human beings, we need to know
what it is that drives human beings. And it seems to me this last five years, I've been incredibly
disappointed by my fellow human beings with certain exceptions, but not many. And so, you know,
we're capable of great things when we get together. But so it seems to me that we have
a predilection for cults. And that may be very, for a very good reason, you know, when it comes
to surviving. So for example, the antelopes, you know, when they're running, they all together,
and the predator can't pick out even, you know, it's difficult if they keep it close together,
even the ones on the edge, he can't pick them out because it is kind of dazed by all these. Well,
we don't know. We're not we're not lions or we're not tight, whatever, you know,
from Santa Luz. So but the point is that I think that this wanting to join cults, you know,
but the problem with that, I'm getting around to Trump. So the problem with joining cults is you've
got a lot of people who kind of are being led. So the capacity for evil is huge for tyranny.
So in the case of Trump, so you've got another thing. So you've got, you know, the population of
the USA 50 states was presented with a choice, Kamala Harris, the Chinese Communist Party insert,
or Trump. So obviously, people felt that they wanted to go to Trump. And then they've had a
godless last four years, you know, so Trump talking about things which are vaguely human
is very attractive. But but then we form a cult, you know, around Trump. The danger is when you're
in a cult, everybody stops thinking there's no need. There's no need. They can't see a need for
accepting responsibility, keeping thinking, you know, you know, where are things going? Has he
done what he said he's going to do? And if not, why not? So do you get my point? So you very much.
And then you've got so the big about the I love my country, I fear it's government.
So bigness is dangerous. Big groups are dangerous, because with big groups comes enormous power.
Human beings are not capable of governing themselves when they are presented with enormous
power, which is why we've got the so in my opinion, so you've got the you know, power
corrupts and absolute power corrupts. Absolutely, absolutely true. But why don't people keep thinking
about that? And thinking about what's happening. So the danger with Trump is that everybody's so
relieved he's come into power. But actually, they go along with everything, they stop thinking for
four years, and then we're further down the road to tyranny. And, and that could be the reason if
Trump is an insert, that could be the reason he was polar opposite to Kamala Harris. What do you
think? There's a lot there. I know. There's a lot there. But it's good stuff. I don't. I'll just
take your last point for a starting place. I don't think in this election, he was different from
Kamala Harris. Right? Really think about it. You just raised the issue of thinking for yourself.
He became pro abortion. He became very rocky on the Second Amendment. When asked about all that
money to Ukraine, he kind of made a little bit of a joke in one presentation. He said, Oh, you know,
the 80 billion more? Yeah, give it to him. Just make it a loan. And everybody went, Oh, good. And
he goes, but they don't have to pay it back. I was like, what? So we had a lot of these 180s. And
don't forget, when you really look back at his first, his first term, he didn't drain the swamp.
I mean, if you're really honest with yourself, be honest, come on. I can give you a little list.
It was all pharma. It was all lobbyists. Yeah, sure. You know, you know the names. I mean,
everybody he appointed, the Interior Secretary, Defense Secretary, everybody, EPA Administrator,
HHS, everybody was like a pharmaceutical lobbyist or, you know, a Raytheon lobby. I mean,
it was, and he pardoned the white collar criminals. And I'll never forgive him. And I don't have a
relative in the J six jail. And he didn't pardon Assange. He did not. He did not pardon Julian
Assange without which he would not have been elected in 2016. In my opinion, he didn't pardon
the J sixers. Those people, you have to understand. I know you guys are very well
learned and you're lawyers and all that. And you know a lot about American law, but these people
didn't even have due process. They weren't even charged with anything. You can't hold somebody for
two hours, much less two, three years. He barely talks about it. And here's what I'm saying about
the mRNA shots that are going full speed ahead, JV Vance, manufacturing plants. If you're not
talking about it, you're not going to stop it. Absolutely. We're going to get saturated. We're
going to get hit with something else. I asked the question on social media month after month, Mr.
President, what will you do differently? We're entitled to know the next time these idiots come
to you with a pandemic, what are you going to do differently? What are you going to do the same?
Share? No, but no, but a couple of people asked him, but he didn't answer it. He pivoted to,
well, we did a great job and didn't ask you that. What are you going to do differently in a second
term? Like, what did you learn from this? We're in trouble, my friends. We're just going to have a
civil war because there are enough people who will not follow those kinds of mandates. I don't care
what they do. You know, Dr. Zelenko, good friend, used to speak with him a lot on the late Dr.
Zelenko, wonderful man. He used to say, we'd go, well, what about this and what about that? And he'd
say, Jane, I'd rather die standing than live on my knees. Exactly. And me too. I think you too.
So there was something I wanted to say. Sorry. It's gone out of my head now. Sorry, Stephen.
I'll go on to it. So it was a subtle point, but the more subtle it is, the more difficult it is to
remember. I'll just go on to something else. I'm sorry. So in the last five years, one of the things
I've noticed is that nothing makes sense. So a lot of people have been saying things that are
going on now, you know, don't make sense. But that's the reason that they're doing them, of course,
because in the Cultural Revolution of China, Mao Zedong's China, every Chinese citizen,
I think it was the Cultural Revolution as opposed to the Great Leap Forward of 1958 to 1962,
they, every Chinese citizen was required to kill 20 flies to make China cleaner.
I think that was the reason given. Well, clearly it didn't make sense. But guess what? They all
did it. They all did it. And the ones who didn't do it were punished, you know, they were killed or
made to die. Loads of people were killed in the Cultural Revolution, but even more in the Great
Leap Forward. So I think, and I think what that's about is what it gives them an idea who's opposed
to them. Because the dissidents, you know, like you and me, we wouldn't kill 20 flies, unless we
had a damn good reason for doing it. But everyone went along with it, apparently. And if you
didn't go along with it, your own family would report you and your friends. Because that's
another thing they did. And so I just think that in the last five years, it wasn't just about
what, you know, the shots. I think there was a lot of psychological torture going on,
that we don't understand. Or we understand a little better in this group. But most human
beings don't understand what's happened. So they're in a state of Stockholm syndrome.
They've got these shots in them, and they've been poisoned, as you've pointed out, you know.
So that's not going to help them. But the most important thing from a doctor's point of view,
I think, should be that they've been psychologically tortured. And they've been encouraged to do
similar things to killing 20 flies a day. Nothing made sense. So guess what? The ones who opposed it,
you know, didn't do anything like me, felt really shocked about what was going on, and tortured in
another way, you know, because we wanted, I wanted to do something about it. And, but I didn't know
what to do. But I just did what I knew I could do, which was connect people and formed a group.
We haven't even got a website. But the point is that I think that the whole thing about they were
deliberately causing the maximum damage to human beings through their minds by getting them to do
things which were ridiculous. So people lost their self respect, their souls were raped, and they
ceased to be human beings. And that's what happened. And so I noticed that people who are on the other
side, you know, who went along with all this nonsense were clapping on their doorsteps, my friends
were clapping on their doorstep for the NHS. And if you weren't on your doorstep, you were in the
group, you know, you weren't in the crowd. That didn't bother me, but it bothered them. So they
have no self respect. They're terrified of me. They won't come near me. Because even though I
don't call them out, they think I might at any minute, especially if we have a drink.
Yeah. What do you think? Yeah. You raise the issue of one of the things that this whole experience
taught many of us, you know, who get all of this is what you made me think of was I didn't
couldn't believe that so many people in the world who I thought would rationally think a little bit
like me would become those people you just described, right? That they would cave that.
And, you know, I sort of, I'll tell you, it took me down a notch as an American. I mean, everybody's
proud of their country. But as an American, I was, we have this and that, and we're going, you know,
free speech. And, man, when push came to shove, I mean, they, there are a lot of Americans and
just human beings around the world. A lot of people cave. So to that point, I'm not a very
good storyteller. If I could give you this information, and you could tell the story
a bit 10 times better, but I've got an Iraqi friend. He's a British doctor. He knew me through
the David Kelly case, because David Kelly was all about Iraq, you know, the weapons of mass
destruction and the fraud of that. And I was on to that. But using inquest laws in the United
Kingdom to bring down the narrative which the which the government was trying to put about
that David Kelly commits suicide, we said we didn't think he commits suicide in the famous
letter to the Guardian, the Guardian newspaper, you know, became famous. I'm not blowing my own
trumpet, but it is important. And we managed to change public opinion about whether he had
committed suicide or not. Now, the British government was desperate to say that he did
commit suicide, because if he was killed, he was killed by the British government, and they had
damn good reason to do it. So we won that and people said, Oh, later, Steven, you didn't get
your inquest. I said we didn't need an inquest in the end. We used that lever, but we managed to
change public opinion. And that was what mattered. And that's what we need to do with the COVID. But
Karam said, yeah, that Karam, my friend, he's a British doctor. He's very clever. He's from a
he lived for eight years, I think, in Iraq. So, you know, when all the trouble was going on. So,
so he said, so let me just get this right. Karam said that I've forgotten the point. It'll come to
me. I'll bring it so Charles can go ahead. I've forgotten the central point of did so many
uh, by stories. You'll have it. Yeah, and I find that happens. That happens to me too. I think
we're dealing with so many more bits of information than we did five years ago. But it does become
challenging. So I have you have my sympathies right there with you. I remember I'll ask you later.
Okay. Thanks. Thank you, Steven. All right, we've got lots of hands up. Here we go, Jane. We got
your mate Albert. In fact, hang on, I think Julie had her hand up first, Albert. Julie. Yeah,
sorry. There's like two or three people that had their hands up before me. Oh, I know what it was,
Jane. This is very important. I'll say it now. So, poor Julie. So Karam was ruthless in his judgment
of people who had had even one shot. And he said to me, and I tend to agree with him, but I'm less,
I'm a little bit, well, I tried to be a little bit, I think he's very kind, you know,
he said to me that anyone in his mind, so he's a British doctor, it didn't have anything,
didn't do anything. But he said, anyone who any doctor who took the shots had failed
a very, very important test of morality, in his view.
Hmm. All right. A failed a test. Failed a test. All right. I mean, it's worth, you know, maybe another,
I don't know if you want to move along, but just generally, it's worth that issue you brought up,
Steven, is worth discussing, because we need to understand, so not as many people fall for it
again, or however you want to characterize it. I don't want to be judgmental, you know,
acquiesce, whatever it is, you know, comply. We need to understand those things. So I think you
raise an interesting point, and that would be a great conversation, because I'd like to have
additional input from others as to what would you do the next time, or how would you get to more
people without, you know, scaring them or that kind of thing? Sure. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Thank
you. Go ahead, Charles. Let's go. Thank you. Julie. Hello. Hello. Hi, Judy. Judy. God, I'm losing my
brains now, too. That's okay. It's everybody does it. Yeah. Crazy. Hi, Julie. I'm so glad to see you
on the call. I speak to you quite often on Twitter X and Patreon Storm Space. So. Oh, okay. Okay.
Love them. Julie Corbuit, five. Me too. He's crazy. I saw him this morning anyway. So, yeah,
so I'm kind of in this unique situation on this call. So I'm a healthcare worker that took two
shots and is has very serious injuries. I've had two detached retinas, et cetera. My mom took four
shots and as it died suddenly, I obviously had to quit my job because they required a booster.
And I actually worked in these COVID vaccine clinics for six months. So I literally watched
35,000 of my community members get poisoned. And which is why once I got fired, I spent the
last two and a half years now doing nothing but pounding sand. Right. I go everywhere and there's
no place that I don't go unturned. This weekend, I went down to the belly of the beast, Silicon Valley,
and Congressman Ro Khanna was there with the town hall and that's where my mom died and she was
poisoned. So I went there and luckily Ron Owens was there to videotape it. And I gave him my mom's CIC
claim, which is the compensation claim and said, sir, my mom has been murdered by four shots of
Moderna vaccine. I have a problem and I need you to get this claim adjudicated. Now I got it all on
film. Believe me, the whole gym was aghast, but there it is. I was at the belly of the beast.
And for you, we'll see what he comes back with. He said he's going to assign one of his big case
workers, but I will tell you there's a storm of Bruin. So there's a calm before the storm. Ron and
I down in Sunnyvale with Ro Khanna and these assemblymen that are just elected, we're talking
about they're all going to Sacramento the first week in December and Newsom's got them all set
up into workshops to completely combat and completely do nothing that ever comes to them
from Trump. They're not, they're going to fight every single policy and it will be a civil war.
He's talking some major words like incite riots, this whole thing. So go follow Rob Bonta, our AG
on Twitter X2. His words are pretty incendiary. So I think we're about ready to see some things fall
in January, February. It's going to get crazy, but here's my question. So again, you know,
I call balls and strikes too. I have a right to, right? And I mean, Dr. Drew, I want to,
it's just insane, right? Dude shots for elderly. Yeah. Okay. That didn't work out for my mother.
These frauds, frauds, and all this. So unfortunately I saw, well, fortunately,
unfortunately I saw Dr. Ryan Cole on Saturday night. He had a standing free and he very truthful on a
lot of things, but this is what the question I wanted to ask you. So wait, wait, when I talked
about graphene oxide and stood by Dr. Astrid Stuckelberger, Ryan Cole called me a drunk on
Twitter. I've never even met him. He's a despicable human being who's a pig who hangs around with
Malone. Yeah. Cause he went up and on and almost assaulted Astrid, I think in some presentation in
Europe, right? When she brought up the stage, Julie. Yeah, it's horrible. So Saturday night,
you know, cause a little bits and pieces, these people start to come around like now Dr. Drew,
no shots. Okay, great. It took you a couple of years. So he said, absolutely. There's no nanotech
nanowires, nanobots at sugar crystals. And I'm like, Oh, I literally Dr. Jane. And I put it
into the chat. I have a friend of mine, Chico state professor in her Pfizer vaccinated blood
is self-assembling cables and chips and all this garbage. She had to move out of town to get away
from the EMF. So why is it that he stuck on this sugar crystal? And can you just debunk that? Yes,
there, well, you'd already kind of did, but that was my question. Well, I don't want to get,
I don't want to get sued again, but if I could talk in generalities, but what I could, if I could
talk in generalities and this is, um, in the beginning, it baffled me that someone like him,
let's just put it that way. Okay. That someone like him in the face of all the evidence.
Um, and I used to be in this private like C-19 group that McCullough started two or three years
ago. And then he kicked me out. Cause I questioned as to why he was pushing Novavax, but, but
all the evidence was in there. We were sharing it with each other. In the beginning, I was,
I was thinking to myself, whoa, wait a minute. Why would he say sugar crystals, sugar crystals?
And anybody else who's saying sugar crystals with him, beware, beware, beware,
unless they were incentivized to do it by someone somewhere, something, you know, again,
like Freud said, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. I mean, it's pretty, what, what, why else would
he do that? And he's really, there's no daylight. Yeah. I watch who people hang with. There's no
daylight between certain people, Cole, Malone, McCullough, Drew. I mean, ultimately they may
have a public spat, but we're all together. Makes you wonder. This is my biggest problem with Trump.
You know, I adore the man, but still, you know, he had Jared Kushner in his year on operation work
speed and now he's got the Susie Wiles, chief of staff, made Miss big pharma gatekeeper. So yeah,
we got to call balls and strikes, but, and so I want to thank you for your time today.
Julie, Julie, Julie, Julie, one thing I think two, two things. One, we've got some people for whom
English is their second language. So when you're speaking at California speed, I can understand
it, but trust me, most people who are not English as first language speakers don't. So just slow down
a little bit. But secondly, can you please tell Jane, cause this is the, I think this is important
for other people to hear the work that you and Ron are doing by going to county supervisors.
Cause I think it's a wonderful example for all of us. Yes. I, I, I've seen it. I've seen it because
I kind of tracked Julie and she's been kind enough to say a word or two here and there. And, you know,
when I've said something that resonated, but, but feel free because I, I obviously we haven't
worked together directly. So fill me in. Yeah. I mean, so, I mean, obviously working at these mass
vaccination clinics I saw, and I know how the operations worked. So I know where the inventory
came from. I know how it was stored, et cetera. So I knew that our inventory was coming through
the county from the public health department, which was getting it from the California department
of public health department. And so I very quickly, after I was injured and had to quit,
did a FOIA request from the county saying, please give me all of the inventory that you've got of
this product by lot number by manufacturer, by product. Right? So like here's comes this
Excel file, you know, hundreds of pages long with all these Pfizer, Moderna, J and J lot numbers.
Right. And so now I start working with Albert and he's got a whole page set up for Butte County.
Lot numbers to find out which ones are bad and toxic. So that's a piece of information. So yeah,
I knew the board of supervisors was culpable. They're getting paid money, immunization assistance
plan, $3.14 million from the state of California to go immunize my county. So I knew the county
supervisor. So right in early 2022, I started going to every meeting and plowing into the public
comment or whenever they were honoring public health, getting in her face. And we actually had
Javier Becerra come to Chico because we were so loud and vocal. I mean, imagine that. And I went
in front of him. It was crazy. So anyway, so that was Butte County. Well, here we are two years later.
They're doing nothing. They're wimps. I get one of the socialists, unelected, replaced. He does
nothing. I run for supervisor. Everybody's part of the medical establishment here. And so I thought,
God, what am I? So I, by the grace of God, I meet Ron Owens Jr. I was the blower who's going to
had his hand up. So he'll talk in a minute about, you know, this, this county to county thing. And
he goes, Julie, do you know, I told your county in July of 2024 about these shots? No. Oh, great. So
now we are joined at the hip. So we've gone, I've gone with him to Plumas Marin County. Today we were
up in Nevada County with Reynette Senham. So yeah, it's just now it's just all I'll just go anywhere,
you know, because this is just the way it is. But it's all the counties that got the money, got the
inventory stored it. So that's the bottom level, right? You guys handle the top. So Dr. Dr. Ruby's
going to go after, you know, the fowl cheese or whoever, but I'm boots on the ground. These people
cannot now claim that they didn't know. So, yeah, you know, you've built quite an operation with this
and, and, you know, one after the other, and it's, it's amazing. And it's really going to make a
difference. And it requires, we were kind of going there with the discussion with Steven, it requires,
you know, co bringing in calling in, you know, people that understand what's happening, getting
that people power behind you and with you. Yeah. Yeah. So you hang in there, Julie. Great job,
Julie. And it also ties into what Jerry Waters is doing by standing for the Irish general election.
And all of us when you stand for local government, because we're finding in Australia,
the Port Headland Council has passed a resolution that's now going global and saying, saying that
these jabs are a danger to health and local governments are supposed to care about the
health and safety of the residents in the local municipality. And going directly there makes
a difference. Julie, you are making a difference and Ron will tell us the difference he's making.
So I think Julie, you met Ron through this meeting, did you not? I think that's the same, Jane,
that's the value of people coming here and then you meeting. Yes. Could lead to a major.
And Sandra Martinez. So Sandra Martinez and I are now going to the California Board of Pharmacy
every other month, meeting her through here. Yeah. See, I mean, you just never know where
something's going to lead. I just wanted to mention that in the chat, I posted for everyone,
the article, I believe it's a PDF of Dr. Lee's report. It's real time self assembly of stereo
microscopically visible artificial constructions and incubated specimens of mRNA products, mainly
from Pfizer and Moderna, a comprehensive longitudinal study. This is phase one. It's
only one and it is 65 pages long. But if you just go through it little by little,
it's really straightforward. Anyway, I thought it would be good for you to have that. You know
your affidavit you did with this thing, the shots are bad. It was like this great affidavit, right?
That's in my criminal complaint with the Butte County Sheriff. So thank you. Wow.
Okay. What Julie's talking about is when I first got into this in March of 2021, by September,
I was contacted by several judge advocate generals, which are military lawyers that were former Jags
and other lawyers like Dale Serin, who had worked on the anthrax against the government for poisoning
our military. And they said to me, you know, you're one of only two or three people like you and Dr.
Yeaton and that really have been inside pharma. Would you, I said, you cannot let this,
give this to our military. We're going to lose our readiness. They're going to drop dead in the whole
bit. So I put this affidavit that Julie's talking, I'm so glad to hear it's helped in a long year.
Yeah, because it's sworn under oath. It's been filed in two federal cases. One was Navy Seals
versus Austin, you know, after Secretary of Defense Austin. The other case was Roberts v. Austin. Now,
it did assist in getting temporary restraining orders. Both the cases ultimately failed against
the government because the government's committing the crime. They can't be adjudicating themselves.
So anyway, that was that. But I'm going to, I'll put the affidavit, if I can get my hand on it while
we're talking, I'm sure I, you know, I'll put it in the chat as well. Right. That would be good.
Thank you, Julie. Good job. Albert.
Albert. Sorry. I really think there was other people before me. I don't want to jump ahead.
Mark Steele and Anders and I want, I want Ronald to go before me. So I'm easy. I'll wait.
Put your hand, put your hand back. You'll be at the back of the queue. Now, Albert, so Anders.
By the way, Anders is AB and Albert is AB. So here we are surrounded by the ABs.
Mark Steele was slightly ahead of me. So I will be following Mark Steele.
All right. I think it's because you're in Australia, Charles. You've got it back to front
the list because I see Mark Steele next as well. Well, I'm the moderator, so it comes up on me,
but that's okay. Mark. Thanks for that, Charles. Yes, Jane. Well, I can confirm there's definitely
a chip in it. Our health secretary in the United Kingdom actually admitted to it in a WhatsApp post.
It's part of the IEEE standard. We've been testing people. I set up a group of people in the UK called
Magneteers where we were actually testing people across the country. Lots of positive tests, lots
of not so positive tests, but the vast body, I would say at least 70%. Mark, what was the quote
from the health secretary? Do you remember? He said he put a chip in them for Bill Gates.
I'll put it in the chat. It's actually his WhatsApp post. What do you think of that, Jane?
A chip? Yeah. Say it again, Mark. Say it so everybody hears it. He said he put it, he
chipped everybody on behalf of Bill Gates. It's actually in his WhatsApp post. They tried to make
fun of it. However, we have the spectrum analysis. Now, I was looking for this technology in the
vaccines. We did have contamination in the flu shots. This was 2017. We had tungsten in the flu
shots, which we knew would increase the radiation footprint and cause significant detrimental health
effects. The tracking technology was very interesting. Early on, it was a DOD project
for tracking wetland or battlefield. It's a track termination technology. So unfortunately, the
people who have had it still have the stable, it's a graphite ferritic nanometamaterial antenna that
they've had injected in the deltoid. If it's stable in the deltoid, it can be tracked and can
be terminated. And that's what the technology was developed for. It was for taking out wetland on
the battlefield. So let's say if you lost someone and you can't really recover them, you can actually
switch them off using the radar type technology. So the battlefield interrogation equipment, we see
this type of battlefield interrogation equipment popping up all over as part of this new
transport network. So track, lidar, radar systems, basically electronic assault weapons are being
deployed on traffic lights right across the United Kingdom now. And it is connected specifically to
what everyone was injected. The lanthanide materials in particular, that's what I was looking for in the
COVID-19. In fact, we won a court case. I got arrested for being out and about when it was
full lockdown. And my defence to that was that this was a biological chemical weapon, not a vaccine,
and it was connected to 5G. At the time we didn't have the spectrum analysis, I just made the
hypothesis that that was how they were going to cause this mass murder. Because I've got the
intelligence documents to show how many they intend. The intention was to kill 55 million in the UK,
200 plus million in the US. It's in the intelligence document. So I was trying to work out how they
were going to achieve that. To increase radiation footprint inside the body is by putting these
nanoparticulates in them. But it's a little bit more sophisticated than that. It's a bit more of
a surgical type weapon. So you can actually understand people's biometrics. You actually
know who they are. They've actually been attributed a media access code number. And it's very clever.
The media access code that these people are attributed, it recalibrates itself. So it's
extremely difficult. So you can take people out into a field away from any device. And then you
can check them. The number is stable. Sometimes they have one or two or even three, depending on
how many injections they've had. When you take them out of that space, the media access code
will recalibrate and they'll get a different number. So as they move through the geospace,
they'll get a different, they'll actually get a different number. So it's quite clever. So it
anonymizes, it anonymizes the victim. Now, the difference is we can't understand who the victim
is. But these supercomputers, even though you anonymize the victim, they will know who they are.
And then so when they travel through, let's say a battle space, you know, what I call a kill box,
a large city where you have these surgical electronic assault weapons, they can be specifically
picked out and eliminated. So that's the really interesting thing. So I can definitely validate
the fact that it's a biochemical weapon. It's definitely connected with a 5G wireless body area
network. And it's basically a track trace termination technology. And so I would definitely
encourage anybody to look into that further. Because if you look in America, you've probably
got 200 plus million people walking around with this termination, potential termination technology
if they don't get removed. Well, Mark, that's so many thoughts and concerns. This is why when
and I want to stay with it for a minute here. But this is why we see Trump and Elon in a bromance.
Elon is a government contractor. He's you don't think he put all those star links up there by
himself. And he's putting a chip in somebody's brain. It's almost like it's right there in front
of us, right chip in the brain and everybody's like, Oh, you right. Then we got Peter Thiel,
go talk about Palantir surveilling all of us. I mean, it's all these players. And they're all
together with Trump. Yeah, but that's already been done the PCR test actually deposited the carbon
nanotube with the neural link into the into the into the cranium. I understand. But we never,
you know, I mean, where are these people? And where was the where was the preclinical work on
neural link in an animal's brain? Because something doesn't add up to me, Mark, I think the
structure, the technology with the wires, I think it's bullshit. And I'm going to tell you why you
can't if I'm reading that cartoon, right? You drill a disc out of somebody's skull bone. And
then you put this disc with the skinny wires down. You're going to have a seizure or stroke. You just
don't touch the brain like that. Okay. You have a tiny bleed and it's a major deal. And somebody's
stroking and seizing. So it just something doesn't make sense. But to your point, you know, remember,
the scary thought is that, you know, we were told the government, the US government military had the
internet decades before we even knew it existed. And we're like, why they did. So there's, there's
this fear of, oh, my God, what else do they have that they haven't come out with? We're not even
going to know until it's too late. And we're embedded with it. And one other point I wanted
to make to what you're saying, I want to like to know what you think about my concern that you look,
Pfizer admitted that something transfers. Okay. And they use the terms in their paperwork through
inhalation or hand skin to skin contact. Well, that scared the shit out of me. Okay. Number one,
number two, you're self amplifying this stuff. And I said to, I asked Dr. Lee, the incubator study,
do you, if they're amplifying it in the amount and volume, and some of us did get symptoms from
being near freshly jabbed people, what's it going to be like when it's amplified? Who knows what
dosage or of micrograms of this genetic Frankenstein concoction. And we don't even know. So what are
your thoughts on, you know, spilling over to the rest of us? I feel like in my head, I, I, I
paranoidly hear them laughing going, ha ha ha, you didn't take it, but you're getting it anyway,
whether you want it or not, because we're saturating the world with it. It's like,
I'm living in a Terminator eight movie. How, what do you think about spreading it? That's why they're
relaxed. Yeah, don't worry. Take a booster. Don't take a booster, whatever it's going to saturate in.
I think they're probably relaxed because they've already done the damage. The billions that have
taken it or more could die if they don't get some sort of medical treatment now. But what I'm going
to go on the spiritual aspect of it. This is about tacit agreement. And I'm pretty sure, you know,
armor of God, all these weapons that they've tried to deploy, none of the weapons are really
working. I mean, the two 19 20 attack, this was the flu, the contaminated flu vaccine, the switch
on a five G and two 19. There was an expected three to 4 million to be killed just in the United
Kingdom. Didn't work. The contamination in the flu shot, it just didn't, it didn't get, you know,
it didn't materialize. You know, the nightingale hospitals, the, the basically the assassination
with the ventilators that just didn't happen. It didn't happen. And that was one of the major.
But if you look at the F 35, which is probably the most advanced weapons platform ever been built
of all time, largest, you know, sinkhole of cash doesn't work. Can't get it to fly. If the con get
these larger weapons platforms, you've got a lot more experience with the these will nanotech
weapons and these electronic weapons are a little bit more sophisticated.
That's not working. And I do believe it's all about tacit agreement and going on about Trump. I think
if you think about it, if you wanted to really get rid of a lot of, cause you know, a lot of
these people are eugenicists. If you really want to get rid of some really stupid people,
right? What a, you know, what a, what a evil dastardly way to do it. Just offer them an
expert. I mean, they did tell everybody it was an experiment. And if you wanted to participate
in what it was, you know, it was up to you. I think it got a little bit out of hand when
they started mandating it. But if you think about it from a eugenicist perspective,
that maybe is what they were thinking about.
Yeah. All right. Well, well, well articulated back and excellent food for thought and Jane,
you know, I think having Mark on your show is worthy of your contemplation. And then we're going
Oh my gosh. Yes. You're reading my mind. Yeah. Good. You get yourself banned.
If you're not banned, you're not being serious. Thank you.
Mark, I just comment that mandating it was always going to happen when you formed a
cult of fear as they did. And they deliberately did it combined with actually worldwide treason
and a global coup d'etat in March 2020, which no one seemed to notice amazingly.
Absolutely. Yeah. Give me that. Yeah.
And yes.
And yes. Hello, Jane. I am Anders, a researcher out of Norway. I am a comrade in arm with
the march. And I have specialized in four years studies into all things covered and about two
years into what I found to be the EMF connection. So I have made a quite deep study where I connect,
let's say, the higher radiation in cities before and during the COVID period,
actually early back to the 2011 at the launch of 4G with one antenna.
So this has been going on for quite some time. But let's say my point is that there is definitely
a strong correlation between these technologies of the radiation and these toxic
injections. And, you know, it was a plan to add about eight of these injections, and most people
had enough with two or three. So the plan was disrupted by, let's say, what happened with
people's reaction. And I believe I can say rather sure that Plan B has been implemented,
where you have a massive toxic chemtrail pollution, which is giving more or less the
same toxic compounds into the air and water. And now they are jabbing salmon, jabbing
poultry, I think pork with mRNA. So we are getting a lot of these poison from many sources.
Very recently, I started a new study. You talked about this study from Korea where,
let's say, it goes to the childbirth. So I found it is a huge increase of mortality and excess
mortality in those places where you have high radiation in cities, and basically close to zero
degrees if you live rural with less radiation. And I found now a very similar effect with childbirth.
So it's a massive reduction of childbirth in cities, and rural is a much lower one.
So I want to be hopeful on the US team, new team. I think all of them, and much of us,
we are kind of ignorant to the technology which you revealed. A lot of people don't know what is
inside these jabs. A lot of people, very few people understand the impact of the ESA.
It's even less, much less. So the combination of these technologies are very sophisticated,
which Mark talked about. But let's say there is big hope. We see now a reduction in the toxic
through the hair and through the body. So there are detox protocols, and there are different ways
to reduce radiation. So I think we are getting a lot of information from the US team.
So I choose to be hopeful, but let's say a lot of people who live in the city, it's a very dangerous
situation with the radiation, and also for different sources of toxic poison. So I want you to consider
to look into this more in deep, because we need to be hopeful, and we need to try to build alliances
into people we may not trust in the top of the incoming US, let's say, college government.
I believe we need to have that hope, and we need to try to reach out to them to share information,
and to see if we can get them informed, better informed. And we need alliance across the pod.
And I have good contact with Astrid Stuckelberger and others. And we would be very happy to,
let's say, work together to get this information somehow wider out, because there needs to be.
I also have contact with really good, let's say, PhD like Dr. Robert Young and Dr. Martin Powell.
So there is a specialist out there who can explain the technologies, how it seems to work,
but there is an educational matter how to communicate this and get it wider out.
And I hope you can see that is a role that I hope you can even do even more into these technologies.
That's a challenge to you.
Absolutely. Thank you for that, Anders. Wow, that's fantastic. I'm glad to be made aware of your work.
Couple of questions and things really briefly. There are a lot of interesting experiences I've
had in the last year or two where people who are in military intelligence or former intelligence,
whatever, but they're kind of friends and a little bit white-hattish, have said to me in the
They won't say why, but they say get out of the cities. I myself just moved about 50 miles from
a city I was living in, just for peace of mind away. If you know what hits the fan in the city,
I want to have a week or two notice before they come up the highway, right? Because we're going
to concentrate the chaos in the hugely densely populated areas. So your information, your findings
around the higher levels of radiation in the cities concentrated, because that's where you take out
the most people or injure them. I mean, it's a no-brainer if you're a criminal killer organization.
Have you guys or has Anders, have you ever had a conversation with a criminal killer
organization? Have you guys or has Anders, have you or has anybody worked with? And I just sort of
put pieces together. One group is Lisa McGee and Todd Kalander. They've done a lot of work on
EMF and I'm not probably a qualified person to characterize exactly what they're doing. And one
other one, Sabrina Wallace, who very interesting woman who is on Rumble very judiciously. She's got
an interesting background. I guess parents were part of DARPA or something, but her research,
and she's got a lot of evidence around this bio digital convergence and how it works with EMF,
and they're trying to do it through medical monitoring and surveillance and all that.
And then the third piece I wanted to ask you was,
should we bring this information of the higher radiation is the trigger for a lot of this? And
that, I mean, people can figure out where they want to be concentrated, but should we look to
experts who can help us detox from radiation as well as the metals and the parasites, whether
they're synthetic parasites, synthetic viruses, you know, created in the lab to cause problems
or radiation? Yeah, I can comment that I know of Sabrina Wallace, she's very hard to get to.
So if you are able to contact her, I would be very pleased to get in contact with her.
Todd Kalander I have been in contact with, he's
not really a specialist on 5G, maybe more in the jab direction, I would say.
Okay. So we know who are the better ones in that area, and we know a few really good ones.
As to the radiation, I believe it is pretty clear now that the radiation is enhanced by the
metal magnetic material in the bodies, which acts as a battery and antenna.
Dr. Robert Young has done good research on that. Dr. Martin Paul has done good research,
Debra Davis, Magda. There are a number of people who are strong in the theory and the bio
effects of this. So there are a number of people, but let's say the radiation is a big problem, and
it's a lot more of it in the cities. And there are two types of major problems. It is how close
you are to the new antenna. I found three to 500 meters is minimum. The problem in cities is that
when you are together, five to 10 people, that's the worst. The radiation from five to 10 of phones
close to each other is definitely the worst. There are Swiss studies on it. So the Swiss
authorities have a regulation which allows for only one tenth because of the knowledge of the
radiation from many devices close to each other. So when you sit in a car or a Tesla car with
radars in front of you and back of you, if you have the Bluetooth on and you have in the cities,
let's say the cities is going to be a major kill box. I'm 100% sure. So the combination of
higher radiation and more toxic stories, you really need to get out in the nature to detox,
but you need to detox in many different ways. You need to reduce radiation and you need to reduce
the poison in you. There are natural ways to do it and there are chemical ways to do it. I will
recommend natural ways, not the chemical ways. We are working on this and Astrid is part of my team
on that. When I was undergoing poisonous radiation because I didn't know better for my breast cancer
treatment 15 years ago or so, I thought I was detoxing. I was using a lot of sea vegetables.
Seaweed, iodine.
Seaweed, seaweed. It's different in like nori, different seaweeds.
Somebody had told me not within the allopathic system, but that the sea vegetables, the iodine
laden seaweeds were able to draw some of the radiation off.
It's alkaline effect, I believe, which is a strong effect. Also the detox protocols,
the best one seems to be those with the highest pH, 8.5 to 9. So there is something with that
with that alkaline, for example, hydroxychloroquine, the most likely effect, why it worked,
it increased the pH, which improved your health. Is that the same for ivermectin? Was there an
alkalinity boost? The science is not as good known, but they also say it's alkalinics.
So it is a similar effect. But let's say the pH miracle or Robert Young, the science of the pH
is very important. And let's say when you are exposed to radiation over a longer time,
you are killing your red blood cells, you are not getting out your CO2 and you're getting more acidic.
Okay, that makes sense. And the cancer is also related to acidic levels. So there is a mix of
many things. There is the lack of minerals, lack of vitamins, the pH story, and all of this is
related to toxic and radiation. This is so incredible. Anders, do you do interviews and
come on shows? I like to provide hope for people and learn what you've found. Is that possible
for you as well? Yes, I have done it. I've done Maria C. I've been here and other places.
Oh, wonderful. Okay. She's a former colleague. And we say alkalining. I know a lot of people,
and I started doing it about six months ago, food grade, aluminum free, baking soda,
like a half a teaspoon, a glass of water before you go to bed, really resets, better sleep,
must be the alkalinization. What do you think about? Yes, I use baking soda and other stuff,
simple things. Okay. And one more thing, Anders, I wanted to mention, please, when I told you guys
all about Lisa McGee and Todd Callender, they've done a lot of discovering and have a lot of
information documentation wise and patents that maybe they might want to share with you if you've
never had them, that it's a battery system. I'm seeing connections. So it would be wonderful to
have them with you. This is in line with Sabrina Wallace, the same type of information.
Yeah, but both of them. And I can get communicate. I put my new proton mail address in the chat.
So if you could, Mark and everybody, if you could communicate with me that way,
and then I'll have your contact. And the thing I wanted to mention was I had another one,
I think Charles was using it or something. And Stephen, it was the DR Jane Ruby proton mail,
but I freaked out about a couple of months ago. I got a death threat. It was really bad. And it
came through the email and I shut it down. It was my public email. But now I've had some security
people look at it and make some suggestions and everything's okay, hopefully. So I restarted a new
one and it's in there. It's just real DR Jane Ruby at proton. So feel free to use it, anybody in the
group. But yeah, life is interesting. So Jane, yes, the Anders, the email is in there, Mark,
still the it's in there. So well done. It's done some great. It's done some great work.
How do I, how do I get to it if I don't get it by the time we're done and it's gone?
I'll send you the chat. I said that to you within a couple of minutes. Okay. Thank you, Charles.
Yeah. Thank you so much. Good work, Anders. And the other, the other remember there are
integrative health experts here. Tremendous. And we have mental, physical and spiritual elements.
And if you look at the lowest work of Joe dispenser, if you have brain heart coherence,
your body will create whatever needs to be created. And so Jane, I will send you the link to his
documentary, the source. It is most exciting for all of us. We've talked about it in this group,
but we are the creators of our health and all of these things we then we can do work to eliminate
what needs to be eliminated from our bodies. And it's a spiritual war that we are in as well.
They are one of the 12 battlefronts. So Anders is doing some great work. Thank you. So is Mark
Steele. Let's keep moving because we've only got 20 minutes to go. And I'm in alignment with that,
by the way, I'm in alignment with that. I've learned, I'm still learning. And I do think we,
we are, we are frequency, we're electric. We are creators of energy. It's amazing. That's why
they're doing this to us. And they've kept it from us. That's another whole meeting.
No, in fact, Jane, that was I'll send you the link to Robert Young's presentation to us just
two weeks ago. And he said, Wow, okay, that's so you're absolutely like all of us, we are learning.
And he said, he said, it's not sugar that gives us energy, it's electricity, that gives us
electricity. And the quote was everybody I'll remind you, he said,
our bodies do not run on sugar. We run on electrons. And he said this, he said,
electrons are the life force energy. Does it donate or remove electrons? So life force energy is the
key. Robert Young, I'll send you the link to it. And Anders is working closely with Robert Young.
So Jane, you said it quite rightly, we are electrical systems.
We are. Yeah, we are. And when I talk to the lay public, and they'll say, we're not electric,
I'll say, Hey, what do you think an EKG is? It's measuring angles of electricity that your heart
is generating. I mean, that's the simple, you know, I'm a cardiac nurse practitioner, but it's
the simplest way to make, and they say, Oh, yeah, I guess I am electrical. And, and then you're off
to the races, you know. Yeah, beautiful. Thank you, Anders. Ron Owens now, and then Albert,
and then Tom, and then Martina. And then we'll go back to Stephen and we'll finish.
Hello, Dr. Jane Ruby. My name is Ronald F. Owens Jr. And I'm the California Department of Public
Health whistleblower, who reprised management at CDPH that probably dose ivermectin in cures
and COVID-19 vaccine kills. It was about an 18 month saga. And that's, that's what my situation
is. But nice to meet you. Thank you. Nice to meet you as well. I wanted to direct you and others
to my COVID night, excuse me, MuzzleTruth.com website. The last button
is COVID-19 shot warning template. That's a five page memo that I wrote variation to 58 county
boards of supervisors back in July. And in that five page memo states what Javier Becerra said
on April 14th, 2022. We know these vaccines are killing people of color, Black, Latino,
Indigenous people at about two times the rate of white Americans. It includes where he said it.
Don't take my word for it. Go to the convening on equity summit on the White House's official
YouTube channel. And it states who I am, what I try to do, citing studies in Italy, Germany,
and so forth. And so having done that, as Judy Threed from Butte County indicated, I've gone
around to a total of 13 boards of supervisors thus far. Sacramento, San Joaquin, El Dorado County,
Yellow, Santa Cruz, Alameda, Colusa, Placer, Marin, and Nevada County earlier today. So I'm following
up what I sent in the writing by appearing in person. So there's 58 counties, so it looks like
I'll be going to 45 more. But for people who can, and maybe perhaps I can share on your platform
that anybody could send on my behalf this COVID-19 shot warning template. They can print it out.
They can indicate in the two words being sent, and this is anywhere in the United States, because
the 58 counties version, I cite health and safety code, that's part of California. But the COVID-19
shot warning template is more general. So anybody can send on my behalf on this information, they can
either print it out, pencil it in, mail it, certified mail, or write it in and PDF it and email it. So I
just wanted to make mention of that to you. So thank you for your time.
Oh, absolutely. And we'll talk offline about logistics around that. Sure, happy to help.
Okay. I've got your email address. I'll send you an email and I'll send you an email.
Happy to help.
Okay. I've got your email address. I'll send you an email and I'll probably put in the subject line
something, hello Dr. Ruby or something like that. Thank you.
You got it. You got it. Thank you, Ron, so much.
Great work. Great work, Ron. You are doing great work. I can never go to Albert, then Tom,
then Martenia, then Stephen.
Great. Thank you. Hi, Dr. Ruby. How are you doing?
Hi, Albert. Good, good, good. Yeah, we talk every once in a while. We run into each other and
you've done an amazing job. You are the VAERS expert. I remember Albert downloading and knowing
when they messed with it because the copies were different. Yeah, and I still know when they
mess with it. They're still messing with it. But before I go say anything, I just want to
tell you that I continue to pray for God's hedge of protection around you and your family. So,
thank you. That's first and foremost.
Thank you. That's so kind. Thanks, Albert.
So God bless you for that.
You too. You too. You're doing great work. Go.
So the second thing is, you know, I'm glad, so glad that you talked about the hotlots, toxiclots,
and the, you know, the godfather and godmother, as far as I'm concerned, Sasha Lakopova and Craig
Pardakuper. God bless them as being, you know, the first one of the first ones on the scene.
I was one of the first ones on the scenes and we're only standing on the shoulders of
people that were here decades before, like Charles was saying, Curtis Koss and other people.
I'll throw out Marge Grant, you know, the first Barbara Lohfischer before there was Barbara Lohfischer.
But with that being said, there was a report, a real popular study about these toxiclots
called batch dependent. It's out of Denmark. Dr. Vebeke Maniché is one of the lead authors.
She appears here in the audience on this particular podcast.
And, you know, so they're saying about the blue, green, yellow, and yellow being placebo.
I've heard it called saline. I've heard Vebeke Maniché call it saline. So basically placebo.
But as an example, there is eight deaths for these yellow lots, yellow lot,
harmless yellow lots that come from Denmark. So if I find I'm like, well, these are not harmless.
They may be less toxic than the blues, arbitrary blues and greens that you put, but they're not
harmless. And so the short story is that I had asked her, I reached out and asked her to share
the data because she went on to Peter McCullough's podcast and said as much, oh, yeah, we'd love to
share the data with anybody. And that's what prompted me to even ask and know where to go to ask.
And she didn't want to share. I mean, I know why she didn't because I've been poking holes in this
paper for a long time saying that basically, no, no, no, you got bamboozled for the throttling,
the purposeful delay of publishing reports. That's the reason. That's why you got what you
got. And those yellow lots, harmless, no, those were the newest lots. They were still on the shelves.
They were still going into the arms when you got your little snapshot of data. And you did now
close to two years ago. And I put a substack in the comments here showing that even
the new reports from VAERS last month, 10 days ago, had a bunch of like, still had like 12 or 15
new reports, serious adverse events ascribed to the yellow lots. So there, and I mean, this is like,
these are old reports. Somebody is holding onto them, whether it's VAERS, whether it's the
manufacturer before they submit to VAERS or something to that effect. But I only bring all
of this up because yesterday I was watching Dr. Peter McCullough on James Lyons-Wylers IPAC Zoom,
and I was in there saying, hey, you know, Peter, Dr. McCullough, the best thing is not playing nice.
Can you be a lamb and encourage her to, you know, show some professional courtesy and, you know,
share the data with me? You know, she said, I'm not a scientist. That's why she doesn't want to
share the data with me, in case I didn't say that. And, you know, I'm not insulted, but I'll
officially say, oh man, I'm insulted, you know, I'm crying over my gray poopon over here, whatever.
But if you know anybody that knows her or anybody in this video that knows her at a professional
courtesy, she is making all you other doctors and scientists look bad by doing this, by not sharing
the data. And she did it on McCullough's podcast. So by association, you know, I personally, you know,
and I love Peter, you know, and whatever, you know, you do, you look, you do Peter, I don't,
I don't love him. And I'm going to show you why you all have to be careful. This is in the public
domain. I just put it in the chat. This is the amount of money Chuck Grassley started the Sunshine
Act, number 20 years ago. Whenever I had dinner with a physician, and I was in the pharma company,
I had to file a special report to the federal government. That stuff gets collated at open,
it's opensomething.gov. I can find it. When you can put any physicians, it got to be a physician,
they don't do PhDs or nurses. And look at this guy has taken millions from big pharma,
and only in the last few years. And then, you know, by contrast, like somebody like Dr. Zelenko,
who's a practicing doctor, gets visits from pharma, you know, reps, he took $600 in the same time
period you're seeing here. The other thing I want you to know is that McCullough has a protocol,
this is all public domain. He's got a protocol. And in that protocol, he's got heavy pharmaceuticals.
But the most dastardly thing is he's got this, you know, he's got PaxLivet. And PaxLivet is very
dangerous. And I can show you, this is his protocol. I just want people to be aware of it,
because you're not sending innocent people to this. This is here you go. This is his protocol.
He's got PaxLivet. If you understand this, I'm using another screen.
Bear with me here, guys. PaxLivet has two antivirals, Ritnovir and Normatrelvir. And Ritnovir has had a
black box warning for years. It is a very dangerous drug. But they repackaged it, they put it into
PaxLivet. And he is a, it's on his protocol. Where is it? Oh, my gosh. Okay, here it is. I'm going to
try to get it into the chat. There we go on the other screen. You're going to see these two.
Make your own decisions, okay? But he's got a product that supposedly reduces spike protein.
Let me take you, what did I say in the beginning of the presentation? Go back to what you know.
How can you have a spike protein for a virus that's never been proven to exist,
and never been isolated in its whole and pure form from an ill individual or animal? Number two,
show me the instrument that's validated that can measure the spikes before, these are nano products,
by the way, before, and then you give your treatment. This is basic science. And then we
use that instrument to measure, to prove that you reduced it. Be very careful with people right now.
There are very few of us that you can trust. And I say that, I know it sounds, go back, go,
corroborate me, go corroborate everybody, right down to people. And Robert, I wasn't picking on
you because I know what you mean. You're trying to do the best you can around these big name people.
But when somebody says, oh, I love that guy, I love Dr. Cole, and I'm not here to bash individual
doctors, but when somebody calls me a drunk and they say that the clots are made out of sugar,
I'm going to look into you, right? And I'm not going to let them get away with it.
And when people are pushing pharmaceuticals- Who was that Jane? Who was that Jane? Who did that?
Which one?
Who made that accusation against you? That I was drunk? Sugar. Oh, sugar. It was all Ryan Cole.
But even with Malone, when Malone, this is all in the public domain, when the case was dismissed
and the judge warned him, you better not bring any more of these cases or I'm going to make you pay
the legal fees, he spent two weeks later, he and his wife spent Christmas Eve just cyber stalking
me on Twitter and disparaging my age, my looks, just this ad hominem thing that didn't even make
sense. So anyway, I just call people out for what they do, especially publicly. So when somebody does
that, you want to be careful of using them as an expert. That's all. Just-
Dr. Ruby, now I say I love everybody in the Christian sense, but I totally know what you mean.
With that being said, I'm keeping my fingers crossed, hoping that even Bobby Kennedy
knows, because he told my church in June of 2021 that bears, doesn't even publish all legitimate
reports received. That's way different than under reporting. This is like, oh my God.
Yeah, this is fraud. Albert, your great work and your expertise
has done more to expose the fraud in the CDC and VAERS than anybody I know. And believe me,
after being in this from March 2020, I know of almost everybody and nobody touches your work.
So God bless you for that. God bless you. Thank you so much.
You bet. I got to get you back on too, Albert. It's been like a century.
Anytime, anytime. Great, great work, Albert. Thank you for that work and reiterate what
Jane says. And Jane, you should know Jerry Waters, who you were listening to at the start,
who's standing for election in the Irish parliament to remind you, he helped Albert
make all this happen. Albert, correct? Who was that now? Who was it, Albert, that did that?
The Irish doctor, Dr. Jerry Waters, he gifted me some seed money and I took that seed money and
got VAERS aware launched. I never would have been able to do it without Dr. Jerry Waters.
And then, you know, with that, I would say, you know, it was Sue Frost and Shasta Erickson,
who are in here that got me on to here to medical doctors for COVID ethics. I met everybody here,
Dr. Thorpe. And, you know, I'll tell you, I want producer credits for Julie, for Julie Three.
We found each other. I helped her videotape and send her mother's death report on VAERS.
And now you see all the work that she's doing. I mean, this is like, this is like Jesus synergy,
I swear. You know, it's not even me, it's Jesus. And, you know, Calvary Church in San Jose,
that's where all the VIPs cycle through. I was going there in the early 80s. So I think God
sent me before I was born to be a watcher. So God bless everybody.
You're here for that reason. And, you know, it goes back to you say, Charles, you and Steven
founded this thing. Look at what you've accomplished and what you've connected
and the people you've connected. I got to get back into your, I just, you know, never seem to have
the time anymore, but I got to come back in. You're doing so many wonderful people and so
much incredible work. Yes. And it was Steven who founded it. And I'm, you know, helping Steven make
this happen now. And, you know, it's, you never know. That's, that's the, we have to make the time
for the synchronistic conversation, the thought that comes that Ron Owen sings as a song, which
we might finish. Ron, we haven't had you sing for a while. So I think with, with all God blessings,
we might get you to sing a song if we've got a moment. But Jane, you know, Steven started this
and, and it's magical connections and God direction is happening. And so we have to,
we have to spend the time and that's, and that's why the, the, the synchronistic conversations and
the sparks and the electricity that happens clearly. Yeah. And like Albert said, I mean,
I think we're here at God's will on a mission for, for a time. We're all here for a time such as this.
So we can't give up and it'll be an interesting conversation. I hope it's in heaven, but for me,
but you know, to, to look back and say, wow, that was some ride down there.
Jane, we've had a few guests say to us that they kind of slowly realized that their whole lives
were heading towards these five years. Wow. Isn't that interesting?
And I, I actually feel a little bit like that myself. It's kind of everything makes sense,
you know, that when, when it really mattered in March, 2020, I knew immediately that there's a
massive fraud. Absolutely a worldwide Rico crime, governments and yeah, governments and private,
the pub, the one of the most scary phrases to me now is public private partnership.
Yes. Yeah, correct. All right. Two more. We've got Tom and Martina, then Steven,
and then Ron will finish with a closing song as closing. Yes. So you can, you can choose this.
You can choose closing music. And Jane Charles is Australian,
but he's a great moderator and he's very, yes. He's wonderful. He's always been good at this.
All right, Tom. Okay. Yeah. Thanks, Dr. Ruby. Appreciate your
passion and that control group thing. It's finally kind of sinking into me when it helped
when you mentioned the baby thing and the next generation, you know, growing up and not knowing
who's jabbed and who isn't and the stats changing. So, so there's Dr. David Nixon,
there's Mark Steele and there's Shimon. There are three people in this group and Nixon started
doing some of that microscopy work and watched things develop in the slide. And, and we had a
conversation in the telegram group after the call and I got to know him. But I'm, as people know,
I'm in this other group, which is much more conservative and I'm aware there was a conflict,
you know, the doctors for COVID ethics was the original group and then medical doctors
spun away out of a conflict, which I don't quite understand. But so I'm a doubting Thomas.
I just- Well, I'll tell you what happened there, Tom. I was prevented from publishing or they were
trying to prevent me. I'm not going to name the people. There was one in particular who is
extremely well known and was working in the shadows to, she thought, to get my article about the
deaths and the injuries from Udra Vigilance, VAERS and MHRA. She was trying to get it taken down
from Global Research. And my friend, the editor of Global Research, Michelle Shostovsky, was
supplying with me with the emails. So I had the proof that this person was taking me down. She
kind of inserted into the group and took good people away with her and they didn't understand.
That's how I see it anyway. And really good people, you know, and well, essentially in the end,
I was told through these emails, which my friend Michelle Shostovsky was supplying to me,
from this person, this woman who was trying to very, very hard to take down the very important
article. I didn't think it was important, but Michelle Shostovsky did. And he's an editor.
And it was about the deaths and the injuries, official figures from Udra Vigilance, MHRA,
and VAERS. And as far as I know, no one else has done that study. And so this was seen as a big
threat by this person. And she said that I couldn't use the name Doctors for COVID Ethics
for the article because I hadn't got the permission of the core governing group,
which I didn't even know existed. So she was demanding that it was taken down. And that if
it wasn't taken, the Doctors for COVID Ethics should be taken away. I formed that group. I
founded the group. So I had the right to use it. I didn't even know about the core governing group,
which had been secretly formed. So that's what happened. And so what did I do? So Michelle said
to me, what are you going to do, Stephen? He supplied me with, so he showed me that he was a
bigger friend of me than he was of the person who was causing all this trouble, this censorship,
whatever you want to call it. And he said, what are you going to do? And I said, well, I'm just
going to walk away. I'm not going to talk to any of these people. I'm not going to criticise them.
I'm just going to form another group called Medical Doctors for COVID Ethics. So pretty much the same.
And if it gets mixed up with the old groups, that's also my group. So it doesn't matter really.
We can disavow anything we don't like. And that's how it happened. So I didn't. And then there were
people around me who were telling me what to do. And in the end, I thought, I'm not going to listen
to any of these people. There were like 20 people telling me not to have Charles as the moderator
because, you know, we needed more exposure and this, that and the other. And I thought, no,
we don't want a big kind of committee here to decide everything. We just need the truth and
someone who's prepared to go exactly as Jane said, wherever the truth took me and everyone else,
you know, and with no money involved, nothing, honesty. So because to solve this, what happened
in 2020, March 2020, I was really shocked. I thought there was no way we were going to
solve it if we didn't address, stick as close as possible, as close as human beings were capable
of to the truth. Yeah. So it was a massive betrayal. I've never confronted the people.
But I don't need to, because actually, even, are you aware JJ Cooey has posted something about this
and it does not agree at all with what you said. Well, you should have asked me because I know
exactly. So I gave that, I gave that information to Charles Cobas. You guys can talk about it.
You need to email JJ Cooey then. I know JJ, we're friends.
Guys, I hate to interrupt, but I need to leave very, very soon. I didn't know it was going to go over
a two and a half hours. Apologies. But I don't want to miss if there's a last question.
Can I, I didn't finish. I didn't even ask. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Tom.
Just state my, but I'll cut it very short. So that doctors for COVID ethics group, they have
responded to Anna Mahalshia's presentations and it's consistent with the crystallization theory,
cholesterol and sugar. And they brought on a scientist that responded directly to that
PDF that you posted. And it's a published paper. To Dr. Lee, like Young-Ni Lee's paper, is that?
It was to the Lee and Brody PDF.
Yeah. Is Mahalshia trying to refute?
No, no, no.
Oh, the opposite?
Was recently interviewed like a month ago on Gary Nell and Gary Nell completely bought into the
everything she said. And so I, well, just coincidentally then doctors for COVID ethics had
this Anne S. Yurich from the Kairos Institute of Technology.
Oh, what is the question, please?
Well, I'm just, I'm just telling you that I'm trying to figure out what the truth is
and I'm trying to entertain all these different, these possibilities. And just wanted to represent
the fact that there's people I respect that disagree with them. That's all.
Yeah, no, I appreciate that, Tom, but let me say, and I'm going to be very, very, very sorry.
I'm not comfortable with her work. I'm not, I don't know if it works or not. I don't know if
it's right or not. I don't like her methodology. I don't feel comfortable with it. I don't,
I'm not confident in, let's just say the background and the credentials as they've been traced.
And I'm just going to leave it there. I don't directly interact with her, but I think taking
it away from just her or anybody individually, we really need to be able to do that. And I think
it's, it's all those things, but make no mistake about it. I'm going to tell you right now, the
alternative media in the world that I'm in, you know, that sort of non mainstream media is heavily
infiltrated now. It's, it's a, it's compromised. Many people are taking big corporate money.
They won't tell you that some of them will be very, very careful, corroborate,
look for things to substantiate what you think you're reading and seeing. And that's just all
any of us can do. Don't be tempted as it's easy to do to jump on red meat headlines and things like
that. You know, I saw the monkey story the other day. I'd said, Oh, monkeys escaped. It's a,
it's dangerous. And I look, you got, I tell people, got to read the article, got to go down
through a third paragraph. It said, there's no public health risks. The monkeys were not ill.
They were just brought there. They cleared their physicals. It's just that somebody left the door
open, but who knows? I mean, in this world, they could have been doing it intentionally to poison
people, or maybe it was a legitimate thing in the end. These little buggers got out. But the point
is always assume that there are distractions that always assume that you've got to corroborate.
Look at other reports. People are going to try to trip us up. It's an information war. Some of these
people that are frauds that I've already uncovered, I'm just not going to name them,
but they've been here since the beginning. So it doesn't matter if they came in new or late. And
I'm glad you raised the issue, Tom. So it's, it's the struggle to really, really try to corroborate
and make sure we're trying to give ourselves the best information we can so we can help others as
well as ourselves. Very good. Thank you, Tom. Last question to Martina, a closing thought to
Steven, then go, Jane, Jane has to go. I'm going to say for 30 seconds of Ron singing,
because I'm not going to miss Ron singing. Okay, that's for sure. Hi, Dr. Jane. I'm grateful for
you. I consider myself your biggest fan from Germany. And you're in bed with me every Sunday
morning when I have my coffee cup. And then when I'm catching up with all your videos, I think I
watched it all. I mean all and you became a family member for me because I lost my mom to the to the
COVID shots and I lost my friends and everything. And really, I'm beyond grateful. And would you
please give me an address? I would like to send you a coffee cup because I'm going to South Africa
tomorrow. And I'm going to send you one for Christmas. Oh, that's so sweet of you. Thank you
for the kind words. What do you want me to say that the mailing address? Yes, shipping address
to your direct message Jane to Martina. You just click on Jane Martina's name and the three dots
on her name and you do a direct message and put in your shipping address and Martina has sent me
what if somebody else wants to send me a cup? Okay, just kidding. Well, put it in the trap then,
Jane. I'll throw her the chat. It's not a home address. I can't do that but it's
that's my postal. Okay, put it in there. Send coffee cups to Jane, everybody.
Well, they started doing it and I do. I have them from all over the world, Dubai and Germany. And
you know, gosh, the only continent I haven't gotten them from is Antarctica. But other than that,
I've gotten them from everywhere. Australia, it's amazing. I mean, people pay more for the shipping
and it's just simple shipping than they do for the cup. Yeah, I think so too from South Africa,
Cape Town to the US. I think it's probably the same. If you know Dr. Zandre Batha, she was in
your original group. That's actually how I met her. And now she's a very close friend and colleague
after three years. And she and her husband and son are going to visit me in the United States next
year, if all goes well. So see the things that you guys have started? Yeah. Where are you? You
don't have to tell us which town or city. I am in South Florida in the United States. I'm in South
Florida. I'm putting this address in so I don't mean to be rude. All right. So I need five minutes,
Charles, to just ask some very, very important questions of Jane. She'll give me one word answer
though. Okay. One word answers. So put the address in Jane into the chat for the shipping address.
They're beautiful. It's in there. Excellent. In Florida. Thank you. Martina. How beautiful.
Thank you, Martina. Thank you again. You met your greatest kindness. Yeah. You met your biggest fan,
Jane. How about that? Oh, that's so sweet. Biggest fan from Germany. Okay. So what we got now,
we've got Stephen five minutes, quick answers, Jane, and then Ronald will close. What is this,
like the lightning round? Charles, is this the lightning round? Yes, it is. Yeah. Okay. So I
have to say, Charles, if you, Jane, if you want to put your, how people can watch your podcast,
I was riveted to your, I haven't seen you actually, but that particular episode really got my
attention. The one where you were saying, well, you know, you were essentially saying that,
you know, we were all scared of election fraud and we thought that they might steal it again,
you know, and you were actually saying it and saying that nothing about what they were
complaining of in 2020. And I thought, Oh my goodness. Well, I put it earlier, but I think
it got lost. It's, I'm going to put it in right now. The coffee chats, which actually I dropped
more Intel in the coffee chats on the show sometimes, but this is rumble.com forward slash
Dr. Jane Ruby, fairly straightforward there. But you're one of these addictive people, you know,
so once, once you get in front of a camera or a zoom camera, whatever it, you know, I think a lot
of people would have a hard time once they've actually honed in on you, kind of leaving the
video. It's very interesting the way you present things and you know, you couldn't, you couldn't
teach it. I don't think, you know, but I wanted to ask you, I'm sorry, I was going to say it's very
isolating out here. So you feel like you're alone all the time. You don't know if anybody's really
getting it, but I see the numbers sometimes on the rumble, but yes. So Jane, I want to have you
finished your address? Yes, I have. Thank you so much. And I want to ask you, so you are a little
bit different. Lots of the people who've presented to us are different. I'm a bit different.
I think a lot of people didn't understand me and that's why I had a pretty hard time. And then in
2020, I kind of thought, in 2020, still in 2020, I thought that there was some kind of order to the
world, you know, irrespective of me, that someone would sort it out. And in 2020, I suddenly saw all
these people didn't understand what was going on. It was obvious global coup d'etat. It was global
treason. Nobody called it that. When I did call it that, they said, oh, no, you can't call it global
treason. It was just too much for some of the people on Doctors for Covid Ethics, the first
incarnation of this group. They were all doctors and scientists and Michel Shostovsky was briefing
me and saying from March 2020, he was saying, oh, Stephen, those doctors and scientists are not
going to solve the problem. You need everybody. And I got it in the end and that's what we did.
So anyway. Well, can I just tell you one quick thing, Stephen, you'll enjoy this. One of the
medical doctors who went with the new group, I'll say the name unless you tell me not to, but he
basically, when I presented it, and I was such in such alignment with his work, I thought it was
amazing and great teacher. But when I presented or I made a statement and it wasn't in a meeting,
your meeting, it was something I remember him saying, you have to soften it. You have to tone
it down. You have to, you know, you know, and I'm like, have you met me? You know, it's I'm just I
am what I am. Jane, that's the worst. That's the anti-human advice. The human advice is to say,
do what you think is necessary in these abominable times and give people free rein. And the really
brilliant people need to be told not to allow them not a lot of them don't don't want to, but
not to allow themselves to be dragged into a group, because that's the worst thing that can happen to
anyone who's creative and you're wonderfully creative. And so I wanted to ask you, Jane,
what kind of child were you? Do you think? And what so what did your parents think of you? What did
your teachers think of you? What do you think? I mean, we don't we barely know ourselves. I think
we can't, you know, you can go through. You said this was quick, quick, quick, quick.
Yeah, well, this is a long one. But then then they're quick, very quick after this. So well,
he's very smart because then he puts the onus on me to be to be quick. I was not the person you see
before you. I'll give you a short answer, but as you know, full as I can, I was I was shy. I but I
knew that I had a certain charisma, if that makes any sense, even when I was like five or six, by
the way people responded to me. But I was very I wasn't necessarily shy, like I didn't want to be
with I love being with people. But I just didn't say anything. I kept it all inside. Without getting
into personal issues, like like many of us, there were some childhood injuries I have I had, you know,
one wonderful parent, I had, you know, a parent that wasn't, you know, good, you know, had his,
you know, role, what wasn't a bad person or a criminal or anything, but, you know, and then
some other things along the way, children get taken advantage of. And it didn't change me right away.
But when I was 16 years old, I was and I was from a very poor family. I lived in two rooms with my
mother and my brother till I was 11. Very, very modest. And I tell you that, because there was a
there was a high school kind of a beauty pageant, but it was really like, you know, scholastic.
And if you won this pageant, you got to go to college for free. And I got involved and it was
it was very tastefully done for young girls. We didn't have bikinis or any stuff like that on the
stage. But the reason I tell you the story is everybody who always was in like the 70s, right,
everybody who won, their father was on the board of directors of Xerox, their mother was like a
lawyer, you know, I have from a broken home, really poor. And I just went and I just was myself.
And I ended up and by the way, the Gannett newspapers, you know, that's USA Today,
their little start was in Rochester, New York, my hometown, they were tiny, but they had affiliates
all over the county and they photo they they they televised this show. And so everybody knew me.
I won the I won I won the big one. And I got a free scholarship. It was like my world,
you know, just flipped upside down overnight in a good way. I was cutting the ribbons with the mayor
and I started to come out of myself. How old were you then Jane? I was 16. All right. So this child,
who had been a little bruised and battered emotionally, who grew up poor, all of a sudden
want the door opened into this world that I didn't even know existed. It was an interesting thing.
I was never in that world. But now that's sort of the elite world. You know, the judges were the
board of directors of Eastman Kodak, these big these big names Xerox. But I so it was a look into
that. And it was such an incredible carving out, I think, of who I am today. And I'm also a Libra.
So I'm very into justice. I can't make it as soon as I can't make a decision, because I can see both
sides of an argument. This just my stereotype of Libras. But a little fun little fun answer,
I just feel it's a brilliant answer in a short time with with Charles. Right. I'm like all of us.
I'm here for a reason. I believe I came here through God. Hey, I want to go down there and
do that. When I'm, you know, 70 years old, that's going to be fun. Saving babies and children from
poison. Yeah. I'm a Libra. I'm a Libra too, Jane. Steven, keep going because we got to hear all
of it. Yeah, I want to say for this now, Jane, because I don't think you do quick answers,
but we're going to try. So, okay. So to be any good in the last five years, the shocking events
of the last five years, really shocking events. A lot of people didn't seem to think that it was
shocking, but I do. And, and so do you think that anybody who was going to be any good in the last
five years needed to have suffered in some way prior to 2020? Yeah, that's an interesting
question. I've seen people who have had a suffering as a great learning tool and took it the right way
and made other people's lives better. And I've seen people do that kind of good work without
having suffered. So I don't know. I think it's, you know, God sees so much more than we see.
One of my favorite passages, Isaiah 58, you know, for my ways are higher than your ways
and my thoughts are higher. We have no idea what the capability is of the bigger picture.
And so he knows where he's got us and what he, you know, what's going on. So I kind of hang on
to that. All right. So Jane, that's a brilliant answer. Very short as well. So was there a pandemic?
No, absolutely not. Okay. By any definition. And they did mess around with the definition.
Do you think that there is at least a possibility or a probability in my view?
So I hypothesize as a medical doctor that they're not capable of doing what they say they
and that the whole notion of pandemics is a fraud. So in other words, I don't think that pandemics
can occur. And the reason I say that is if you believe in viruses, which I'm not sure I do,
but I don't think we've got down there at the moment. A deadly virus kills its host. We were
taught that at medical school and I always remembered it. So I remember asking the
immunologist, the professor of immunology, very well known professor, he told us that deadly virus
kills its host. Well, of course we now wonder whether there are viruses. So I said completely
innocently, but you know, I was interested in asking questions. I said, does that mean that
pandemics can't occur? And he said, and I had no idea why he said it. He said, very good, Stephen.
And we left it there. So my question to you is, do you think that pandemics, is there a
possibility or a probability or a certainty even that pandemics can't occur and that the whole
virology world and the decline of immunology and the evidence-based medicine, which led to
tyrannical protocols, protocols which took the autonomy of doctors, do you think that this whole
world was constructed to allow what they did in 2020? And so the whole thing is we should all be
afraid of pandemics. Come on, come on, come on, come on, tempers-fuget.
Jane, what's that? You know, Stephen, I'm not trying to get out of it, but that's a question
for the ages. Sure. When you think about it. Well, I think they're not, pandemics can't occur.
It's a fraud. I agree. Peter McCullough is completely wrong when he's talking about the
next pandemic all the time and he should know it in my opinion. He does know it. Stephen, he does
know it. This is not about a lack of understanding or knowledge. Okay, come on. So yeah, but when
we're in charge, I need to do this now. So this is really important because Jane is a truth seeker.
Was there a disease called COVID-19? When you say disease, you know, what I think happened is this.
I think there are two bio weapons. I think they created something, whether it was through the
radiation stimulation that that Amstead talked about. No, who was it? Anders. Anders. I apologize.
That Anders talked about in his work. They did something to put it into pockets so that there
would be visual, you know, proof to scare people. That was a minor bio weapon. And then when they
said here's the variant Omicron or whatever, they dropped something again or cranked up the radiation.
But the big bio weapon, this is all to get people to comply. I urge you all to watch, read Catherine
Watts article if you haven't already done it. It's called, she's got hundreds of articles in her
sub-stick, but this one is called the American bioterrorism program. And she just shows that
whole chronology. You're in a military kill box. This is ginned up. And I think they know, we know.
My fear is that they're going to, that they've got so much of it accomplished that by the time
there's a 100th monkey effect and enough of the population gets it, that it could be too late.
But it'll be what it'll be. Jane, I listen to this now. So as a doctor, I thought that there was
catastrophic failure in diagnosis and every doctor in the world should have realized it.
So the PCR test was fraudulent. We knew that. But then they were saying, oh, you know, the
symptomatology was COVID-19. And I was thinking, well, actually I haven't heard a single symptom,
which is pathognomonic for COVID-19, including loss of taste, loss of smell.
Let me say this, let me say this. When people say, do you believe in viruses or not?
My answer is I don't. I mean, I love the work of the Bailey's and Dr. Cowan and Dr. Coppin and all
that. And I see all of it. I don't believe up and up in viruses. No, what I say to people is,
you know what? Demonstrate for me a whole virus in its purified, isolated form that you've taken
from a sick animal or a sick person. And then we'll talk. Don't show me a facsimile of a sequence,
of a piece that you downloaded. So until you can do that, then it doesn't exist.
Yeah. So the gain of function very quickly now, because we're really under pressure from Charles.
It's three minutes Charles. You're going on 15.
No, no, no. Well, it's important. No, it's not.
Gain of function research. No, it's not. You said quick question.
I'm staying because I don't get invited that often. So I'm staying. So go, go, Stephen.
Gain of function research. Was that deliberately playing into the false narrative of pandemics?
So in other words, they knew that the public would be scared of gain of function research.
Oh, the deadly viruses could escape from the lab, you know. And so it was put in for that reason,
even though it was very, very illegal in the United States had to be exported to China. But guess what?
They were still using American money to fund it. Let me point something out. I believe it was done
at like the documentation says for Dietrich, Ralph Baric, University of North Carolina.
But what's the title of RFK Jr's new book? And then you'll know he's a Trojan horse fraud.
What's the title? I don't know.
The Wuhan cover up. He's perpetuating the Wuhan lab leak.
Well, exactly. There we go. So anyway, come on.
One last question. So what's in the what's in the shots? What is it? What's in all the shots?
You'd love to say with you. Do we know? Do we know for certain, Jane, that there was a spike protein
in the shots? Do we know? Okay, Stephen, stop. The spike protein is theoretically a piece,
smaller piece of the SARS-CoV-2 that no one's right. Let me finish. That's never been demonstrated to
exist. So if the whole has never been demonstrated to exist, then the part, the small part of it can't
exist. Exactly. But there is a foreign protein toxic antigen. There is a pathogen they created.
We just don't know what it is, but it seems to respond to hydroxychloroquine,
ivermectin, methylene blue. Yes. So Jane, the killer question is, do we know
four years on what's in those shots? And no, no, no, no. You know, some things you don't know
everything. And as I said in the beginning, 50% non-disclosure. Good. Ron. I agree with you,
Jane. You can't beat off people when you don't know what's in the shots. Correct. Ron, take it away.
This poor guy. And don't feel pressure. Ron, Ron is ready for us. We've had 15 minutes.
Unmute yourself, Ron. We're going to get back into a spiritual sketch here. Can't hear you, Ron.
You're still muted. And thank you guys. If I don't get a chance to say thank you for having me,
to all of you for your time. Okay.
Thank you. Ron, we got to go. Magnificent. There's a little bit of feedback, but we got the
essence of your beautiful singing voice. Thank you so much. I forwarded the link on the chat
so you guys can listen to as many times as you want to. Dr. Ruppey, the Lord gave me that song
in early 2023. I was in between staff meetings, working at the California Department of Public
Health, going through various stressful situation at work, and I was emptying the trash. And that's
where the melody came. So this song was born working at the California Department of Public
Health and my trials and tribulations there. It's amazing. It was beautiful. Thank you so much.
Thank you. And I'll email that link to you. And the link is also in the chat for you guys to listen.
Okay. Wonderful. Thank you, everybody. Thanks, Jane. Thank you, Stephen. Thank you,
Ron. Thank you for all the contributions, everybody. Have a wonderful time. See you all next time.
Thanks, Jane. Thanks, Stephen. Bye-bye, everyone.