So hello everybody. Welcome to Medical Doctors for COVID Ethics International and today's
discussion. This group was founded by Dr. Stephen Frost over almost four years ago.
With a desire to pursue truth, ethics, justice, freedom and health, Stephen has stood up against
government and power over the years and has been a whistleblower and activist. His medical
specialty is radiology. At this time we remember Ryan Ofulmik, German and US lawyer who's currently
unlawfully incarcerated by the German government undergoing a show trial in Germany. I will put
his latest transcript of his statement into the chat the link so thank you Dagmar. Both a video
but an English statement that will bring you all up to speed with what's happening to him. There
was a demonstration on November the 30th in Geneva and we call on the German government to
immediately release Reiner from prison and it's still an outrage that he's being transported from
jail to court shackled on a civil matter. We also remember the late Anna de Bussere,
also a great contributor to this group who died on the 30th of November. Ironic that
Reiner's demonstration and Anna died on the same day the 30th of November. I'm Charles Kovest,
the moderator of this group. I'm Australasian passion provocateur and we love passionate
people in these meetings. I practiced law for 20 years before changing career 31 years ago and
over the last 14 years I helped parents and lawyers to strategize remedies for vaccine damage
and damage from bad medical advice. I'm also the CEO of an industrial hemp company. We comprise
lots of professions here and we're from all around the world. Many of us thought that vaccines were
okay now many of us proudly say and that includes me that we are passionate anti-vaxxers and I say
again you go to the website inform-me.org an Australian educative website that will enable
you to share the news of the fraud that is that is childhood vaccines. No vaccine has ever been
properly tested for safety or efficacy ever in the history of mankind. If this is your first time
here welcome and feel free to introduce yourself in the chat and where you're from. If you publish
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who say that that certain people are idiots for saying what they do. Now we love comments on the
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for people is because people don't use their proper names. I use my proper name this is me
and if you're putting comments in the recording without your proper name it will be removed if
it's derogatory. If you're sharing an idea terrific it won't be removed. Most of us understand we're
in middle of world war three and the medical science battle on the principles of medicine and
science is only one of 12 battle fronts. The attacks that have been made on doctors like
Jerry Warders and like our guest today Miley Trinh is also part of this world war. There's no
time to be tired we're four and a half years into a seven year war so look after your health and be
up for the fight for the next two and a half years. The meeting runs for two and a half hours after
which for those with the time Tom Rodman runs a video telegram meeting. Tom puts the links into
the chat if you're able to join. We'll listen to our guest presenter today Dr Miley Trinh for as
long as Miley wishes to speak and then we have Q&A. Stephen Frost by long established tradition asks
the first questions for 15 minutes. This is a free speech environment. If you're offended by anything
by the way free speech doesn't mean we don't allow ad hominem attacks. I don't I'm the moderator I
don't allow ad hominem attacks in other words you can say I disagree with what someone says
but you can't say that that Tom or Stephen is an idiot or that he's whatever so you understand what
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offended we're lovingly not interested we reject the offense industry that requires nobody to say
anything that may offend another and the attacks are going on I mean people sex sex offenders
being removed from jail to put into jail in the UK people who say something that might be offensive
it's outrageous we reject the offense industry that requires nobody to say anything that may
offend another we also reject the triggering industry however we come with an attitude and
perspective of love not fear. Fear is the opposite of love fear squashes and enslaves you love
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and they're welcome to our guest presenter Dr Mai Li Trinh we thank you Mai Li for giving us your
time we thank Dr Ahmad Malik one of our group for organizing Mai Li to speak to us and for the
purposes of the recording I wish to give a little bit of background on Mai Li and her topic is a
doctor's fight against systemic injustice. Mai Li's life story is one of triumph over adversity
escaping the horrors of the Khmer Rouge regime at the age of five. She endured the devastating
loss of a mother who was killed by the Cambodian regime sent to live with her aunt in Vietnam. She
spent several years under communist rule before making a daring escape as a boat refugee.
At the age of 12 she arrived in Australia determined to build a new life.
Despite the challenges of adapting to a new country, language and culture Mai Li excelled
academically graduating third in her high school class. Her hard work and resilience earned her a
place at the University of Sydney where she pursued medicine. The career she envisioned as a way to
serve her community and honor her mother's legacy. For 27 years Mai Li was a highly regarded GP in
Sydney. She cared for her patients while also volunteering her medical expertise in rural Cambodia
offering free care to underserved communities. Her career remained exemplary until September
2021 when two complaints were filed against her on the same day through the Australian Health
Practitioners Regulatory Agency portal, ARPRA, marking the beginning of an extraordinary and
unjust ordeal. Fake allegations were made against her. She was indefinitely suspended.
Like Jerry Waters we've heard about on these calls she was suspended indefinitely under emergency
powers meant only for genuine crises. While Mai Li does not know if her indefinite suspension was
orchestrated she believes she the rushed inquiry raises serious questions about the process after
her suspension. Mai Li was referred for investigation. Internal documents suggest the outcome of this
internal documents suggest the outcome of this investigation had been predetermined raising
doubts about the fairness. So a judicial review has taken place. She's in a fight for justice.
She has brought a case to the Court of Appeal and it's cost her hundreds of thousands of dollars
and her fight goes on. Her ordeal is not just her story it's a cautionary tale about systemic
flaws in the regulatory and judicial systems that we've heard much about here. Her case
raises critical questions. Can anonymous unverifiable complaints dictate the fate of
professionals? What safeguards exist to ensure fairness in disciplinary actions?
And despite the immense personal and professional toll Mai Li Trinh remains steadfast in her fight.
Her courage and determination serve as a call for reform challenging a system that
oritizes bureaucracy over justice. And her story we will hear today is a reminder of the importance
of standing firm in the face of adversity and fighting for what we fight for on this call which
is truth, justice, fairness, ethics, proper application of law and proper health. So Mai Li
thank you for being here again. Armand Mai Li thank you for organizing Mai Li and thank you
Stephen Frost for creating this group and for organizing Mai Li to be with us today. Mai Li
we are in your hands. Welcome and commiserations on the crap you've gone through and a number of
people Jerry Waters hit like gone through similar crap to you. I'm sure we'll be able to compare
notes and see what we can do about that. Please share your thoughts with us and then we look
forward to a discussion with you. Good morning Charles and everyone thank you for having me.
That was an incredible introduction. I think that you've covered everything I don't need to say
anything. Can you hear me well? Yes very clear. I will close a bit. Yes okay so yes I essentially
was targeted. I felt that I was set up not just by the people who made the complaints against me
but the health regulatory body, the insurance company who sent lawyers to deliberately
cause me to cause my demise and over and over they have done everything to stop me. In fact
even the recent just a few months ago same thing happened again.
So just going back to the beginning how this all got started.
When the pandemic came I wasn't really practicing at the time. I took a bit of time off trying to
find out and research what was happening because I wanted to know whether the virus was as deadly
as they said it to be and whether there's any treatment available. When either Macdon came
along I was very excited because I knew this was going to be able to treat a lot of people. So I
immediately got back to work and I like to offer the service to the sick but in Australia like
other parts of the world the management of COVID vaccines infection is to stay at home, do nothing,
wait till you turn blue and go to the hospital. So that was the health directive that was given
to the public and to doctors. I mean a lot of us who wanted to help couldn't get patients because
patients the minute they have the infection they were forced to stay in the house in lockdown and
a lot of them panicked and didn't know what to do. So I was very excited to be able to do this.
Somehow another one of well one a colleague of mine had well she knew someone who was sick
and asked me whether I could help this lady who's not really that sick and who just needed a bit of
directions as how to manage her condition. So I was in touch with her children and
this lady is essentially a 51 year old lady who was admitted to hospital for
a question mark a unit-tracking infection and during the course of her stay was found to be
COVID positive and the management of her COVID was isolation, mask and essentially do nothing
and also they prevented her family from visiting her. So she was terrified and so she
discharged against medical advice and she over the course of days her condition deteriorated
and that's when the family asked for help. So by the time I got to see her,
was seeing her when I met by that is actually I was carrying out telephone consults because she
was in an area of Sydney where it was it was it's been locked down so there's five areas of local
government area in the southwest of south west of Sydney that was in lockdown for prolonged period
and so if anyone in this area who's sick with COVID they were forced to stay at home
for two weeks at least or until their PCR test is negative. So this lady who was essentially
in her home she been to the hospital she came back and she's sick and she doesn't know what to do
she can't get help and so I assessed her over the phone and realized that she's quite unwell
and I said that she's probably a bit late to receive, for me to make a difference and she
might need to go to hospital. The family refused to take her because they were awake
and they knew that she's going to get mechanically ventilated, she's going to receive remdesivir
so they resisted as much as possible and so she had her dose of ivermectin she didn't know how to
take so I told her what to do and but I told her after a few hours that she's too late
because we need access to an oxygen machine and unless she's able to access that I can't treat her.
So she's able to organize the oxygen machine her oxygen saturation time was about 88 in the morning
but by afternoon it's gone down to about 71 and so a few hours later she in the evening she got
hold of an oxygen machine and the oxygen well with oxygen her sets went up to 91 percent
so I continued to treat her hoping that I could keep her out of the hospital and could keep her
out of you know the lethal treatment the lethal concoction that they give to patients in hospital.
So over the next two days she was difficult to maintain her oxygen I gave her all that I could
which was ivermectin I use a variety protocol which was ivermectin 24 milligrams doxycycline zinc
I gave her vitamin D I wake her in 50 milligrams she's she's of middle eastern descent so I think
that she had low vitamin D so it made her very vulnerable to severe COVID. I gave her
fluoxamine because she's also got history of anxiety and been on an SSRI before so I said
why not work with SSRI another SSRI I gave her gudez at night she's got history of asthma and
yeah essentially gave her everything that I could and despite add some low dose prednisone and
with that she's able to maintain her her sets around the low 90s but then she continued to
deteriorate over the course of the first few days so I made a decision to treat her with
high dose steroids because I couldn't maintain her oxygen to an acceptable level despite her being
on maximum support of you know the home oxygen it's basically up to the maximum and I gave her all
medication that I could give her so I use what they call post steroids so high dose of prednisolone
in divided doses 500 milligrams over three days and to see how she responded to that and
fortunately she I was able to like she responded very well and her oxygen level was
I was able to maintain her oxygen level to an acceptable level and
and it was easy it was amazing actually it was so good by the third day I actually dropped her
prednisone to only 250 and I then weaned her off gradually the prednisone and also able to wean
off the oxygen over course of about two and a half weeks and this is also a protocol that
Pierre Corie was advocating and he taught doctors to use this protocol
unfortunately for me she developed some side effects of prednisone which was
psychosis so she developed some unusual behavior say some silly stuff and so I recognized that
that was a side effect of the prednisone and but yeah and by then she was pcr positive
negative so I said to her to go to a gp and get some follow-up and this could be
um psychosis from the prednisone and get help so I didn't hear anything from her for
two or so weeks two three weeks and the next thing I know is I got served with a complaint
from the healthcare complaints commission with you know a diagnosis of polypharmacy and
cathelopathy and I'm using too much steroid inappropriate use of steroid and that the
department of toxicology at westmead hospital is having some problems with me dealing with this
patient so and then I received a second complaint from a character called John Smith who alleges that
I um treated a friend of his whose friend has this ivermectin script and so the ivermectin script
that I prescribed to this friend of his was used as evidence against me and he said that his friend
doesn't have worms but was prescribed ivermectin by me he's accused me of promoting ivermectin
and on online uh an alternate treatment of COVID-19 on an online forum and that I'm an anti-vaxxer
and that he knew exactly three other ivermectin scripts and knew who they were as well
that I prescribed and he has concern as a public a member of the public about my conduct so that was
what I got served about three weeks after having treated that patient
and I've never had a complaint made against me before in my 27 years or closer 30 years of
being a doctor and I had no idea what this means but I knew it was very serious
um but I didn't know why I was a complaint was made against me um even the Westmead complaint
I couldn't understand why anyone would make a complaint against me when I actually saved a life
so I proceeded to ring the person um who made the complaint they had a mobile number on on the
complaint so I rang and spoke to this doctor of at the hospital at Westmead hospital
so she said that she's an intern and she treated that she she uh you know she was involved in the
care of this patient and I asked her why she made a complaint against me uh and she told me that
she was instructed to make the complaint she didn't she doesn't know why and uh and that her
boss was the one who told her to lodge this complaint and uh I proceeded to ask who it was
and it turns out to be a guy by the name of associate professor Naran Gunja so this individual
he's uh he's a doctor in specialized in emergency care and he's a toxicologist at Westmead hospital
this gentleman um on the between the first of September to this third of September roughly
about a week before the TGA so the equivalent of the FDA in America
when the TGA banned Ivermectin this person a week before that was making public appearance
on tv and on radio um denigrating Ivermectin claiming that there was a case of uh Ivermectin
overdose that he had treated at Westmead and that um people shouldn't procure a cure online
and that Ivermectin doesn't work and that uh this guy was lucky that nothing happened to him
from that overdose and that uh Ivermectin doesn't work and people should take the vaccine so the
um the media spun the story and made it seem like um there's a whole heaps of people at
turning up to casualty with Ivermectin overdose and people should just stop taking Ivermectin
shop stop buying the horse patient on an online from from an online source um that's not reliable
etc and so this story was broadcast all over Australia uh for three consecutive days and
everybody heard about this Ivermectin overdose man they thought that people were flooding casualty
but that's that was a lie um I did an FOI to see how many people presented to hospital at that time
with Ivermectin overdose uh and there were only two cases um in Westmead hospital anyway and um
so it's a total lie in fact I doubted whether that patient really had a true Ivermectin overdose
but anyhow I uh that was the person behind my complaint um and obviously it really wasn't about
my treatment but it was about Ivermectin and I and the John Smith complaint I believe was raised
by whoever's behind um my target against me but essentially they needed a second complaint in order
to justify a section 150 investigation which is an interview that they they um that they could
sort of justify in order to try to suspend me uh so I yeah so so anyway that the the unusual thing
about the John Smith complaint is that uh it's not an anonymous complaint so you you can lodge
anonymous complaints against doctors but it has to be um uh you you have to be contactable so the
complainant had to be reached by the um by the health by by the health regulators
but this John Smith complaint is completely different um he he cannot be contacted his email
address doesn't work his telephone number doesn't work and he doesn't have a physical address
and he's a complete fraud because the prescription that he issued um which was used as evidence
against me that Ivermectin script was redacted uh it doesn't have a name no address and uh
and unfortunately he forgot to redact the medicare number so it allows me to trace back
who that prescription belonged to so the friend that he claimed got that prescription
whose prescription that belongs to happens to be a family member of mine and I was the one that
took the script to the chemist and it was left at the chemist because there was no supplies of
ivermectin and a few weeks later ivermectin was banned so as a result I left the prescription
behind at the chemist and didn't go back so when I got the complaint and I knew who
that prescription belonged to and I knew that it was still a word was left at the chemist
I went back to the chemist and asked them where that was and they couldn't find it and they
admitted that the prescription got handed over to APRA so APRA had that prescription
John Smith whoever that was managed to get the prescription from APRA and I was suspended
based on that so that's the beginning of my ordeal um essentially fake complaint
a fake complaint and the other complaint wasn't really valid because they never had a consent
from the patient they persuaded the patient they coerced the patient they lied to the patient
and she didn't consent
so I was suspended immediately
after immediately after the interview with the regulator concerning these two complaints
they never wanted to know anything about what I was going to say all they wanted was to
interrogate me to get more information so that they could suspend me
and they were they were working to file a third complaint against me so
yeah do you want to ask me questions yes um my lee what I would like is um and we can ask that's
that's your story but give us a taste of the legal process that you've gone through we've got
Brad Geyer here who's a lawyer from the US I'm a former lawyer legal strategist and you know the
the issue is the medical fraternity have stuffed you but but the legal process is also not serving
you there's no justice in that process including taking the complaints of anonymous person who
can't be found so what's you know what insights can you share with us on that legal process and
the cost which is and by the way you're still suspended aren't you yes correct you know and
and so the the the steps here are you know um designed to serve you as a warning and like
jerry waters as a warning to other doctors don't you dare go against the narrative so what have
your lawyers told you about that process or what's your observation about the process
um well I think that uh my health rig my my my medical indemnity insurance was working against
me the whole time uh so when I was okay that's very that's very important you know I think that's a
very important we'll unpack that but I think that's a salutary crucial crucial point because
I've heard that from a number of doctors that that's what what that's what the medical insurance does
yep if if I was represented properly at the beginning of the my case I would never been
suspended um um the the the person that um assigned to my case was a senior uh council
and she's an experienced and and she's a a fairly capable lawyer but that wasn't her purpose her
purpose wasn't to help me her purpose was to my demise she she was there um she was put there to
destroy me she was put there to look like she was doing something but she was not um I was ill
advised I was very naive um thinking that the medical council was interested to know the truth
they um yeah so so I I felt very set up by the the the people that lot make created that complaint
and I was set up by my insurance company and the lawyer that they gave to me to to to help me
and it was hard at the beginning because I've never faced anything like this before and I
I didn't know how to deal with it um I knew that um unfortunately for me I knew that my medical
insurance um was bad but uh I approached a private a lawyer privately and asked him to help me
but he convinced me not to use him and use the insurance lawyer and that was a mistake that I've
made I made yeah so anyhow that's a that's a that is a wonderful important warning to everybody who
watches this recording who's on this call that these medical insurers and the lawyers they
they um appoint I have seen this happen many times so so yeah you need your own lawyer
absolutely yeah yeah all right so um Miley anything else you want to share before we get
to Stephen and and other questions we've got plenty of you know we're great at asking questions
and your insights and you know I have some other views I want to share with you but keep going and
then we'll get to the questions the thing is that uh the the the way that I um the way that I
experienced so far with the legal process is that um they they control everything so there's there's
just no justice no matter what I do I can never get anywhere because they control the tribunal
they control the courts they even control the barristers so because I I filed a judicial review
at the tribunal and then appealed to the court of appeal and the legislation that I challenged was
mentioned in a prior case and so it was a very straightforward and a very clear
legislation which states that if a complaint is made and it's serious
I had to be referred to the tribunal for a hearing and so that that would end my suspension
but what they did was that they prolonged the suspension by not allowing by not referring me
to tribunal and I was I felt that I should have won that case and I should have I was hoping to
set precedent on that matter so that no one no health practitioner in my state would ever be
suspended indefinitely or prolonged suspension but they manipulated my case they
um they tried to stop me from going to the court of appeal and that that is that was why they
initiated a prosecution hearing against me to try and cancel my license which is the hearing I'm
going into next Monday so they wanted that hearing to go ahead and cancel my license so that by the
time I get to the court of appeal that I have no standing um um yeah so so they because the case
is mute you mean that because the case is mute uh not so much mute but um I don't have standing
I don't have because the matter that this is nothing that um I don't know what the word is
so my my suspension status was gone they've cancelled and they made a determination
an administrative determination on my case and there was nothing the court of appeal
is going to make a difference to my case so um but my at the bottom of all this there was
fraud there was fraud yes um and so that's a matter for the police in it
yes I did file a complaint two years ago to the police the police wouldn't investigate
I followed it up and they were not interested and so just a few months ago I filed a complaint
to the police commissioner and the police commissioner said that they would investigate
so when I got a chance to speak to the senior inspector they lost my original filing
and he spoke to me for uh you know and and interview me on my matter but he wasn't really
interested in my story it was just more like an exercise to fulfill his requirement that he
spoke to me um and then he concluded that there was no fraud um that was more collusion
oh more corruption so he said that because there's no fraud it's not in the the police
jurisdiction and so he said it was corruption not fraud is that right correct but it was fraud
it was I told him that his definition of fraud was wrong I he said that because there's no exchange
of money there's no fraud and that's the only um area of fraud that the police can investigate
I said that's not true at all um I said you know this is this is a falsified complaint
it was an intent to cause me harm and I have been harmed from it this is absolutely and he rejected
that he got angry irritated in fact the next day after that interview he um he got really really
annoyed with me well he called me accidentally and when I told him um that I like to still serve him
or provided him provide him with the report that that the police doesn't seem to have
my original report and that I like him to consider the in the crimes act uh with this
particular legislation that speaks about fraud that applies to my case and he got angry agitated
shout and scream at me and that's intimidation yes of a witness of your witness and the actual
complainant incredible so I filed another complaint against him and that was only a few days ago so
it's still going um yeah you know master roberts um sorry charles go on sorry Stephen the next the
next 13 minutes is yours then we'll go to jerry and john you you keep going steven
okay um my lee thank you very much for coming on a short short notice um I was hoping you turn up
which is more than I managed to do on time anyway um and I'm sorry about that but anyway um
uh I don't want to go on too much but I let's say
I'm a whistleblower and I know exactly what you're talking about you cannot trust any damned lawyer
who comes before you you have to make your own judgments and rely on your instincts to get a
lawyer who's vaguely working for you and even then they're working in the system and trying to make
money out of you so um and uh there's no justice in the united kingdom it doesn't look as though
there's any justice in Australia too this is a disgrace to both countries and uh I wonder do
you know malcolm roberts the senator yes I do is does he know about your case he does
what is he doing to help you nothing much right what can he do well he can put pressure on the
police to investigate crime okay at the very least I think right okay so um but we can help
you mildly so we can point you in the right direction charles lives in Australia he's in
Melbourne were you in Sydney or or correct Sydney okay um but um
Charles we could get uh we we know so Julian Gillespie is a lawyer isn't he Charles
yes he is a lawyer and I'm I'm I'm a legal strategist Miley I practiced law for 20 years as
you heard and you know the fraud that's being perpetrated on on Miley um you know it's in fact
it's a state it's a state matter it's a state police uh so it's the new south wasp police rather
than the federal police rather than a federal senator issue steven on the other hand it's
shining a light on what Miley and um really what you're getting at it Miley what publicity of you
know has have you been able to generate and I'm just thinking what's going through my mind is to
shine a light on what you're going through because and amps you know there's also amps been
established in Australia for just this purpose and so I have I have been a member of amps and
I didn't get any um value you know any assistance at all so I um withdrew my membership from amps
yeah is anyone helping you I mean are you just doing all this on your own Miley
I am it's essentially I'm doing it on my own um I have been able to get small independent media to
um um to to you know to interview me and to shine a light on my case um I got a good
following on on social media so I have been putting my case forward I've been educating
my audience about what's happening to me so I have recently been having more more publicity
but not enough um and you know I could I could do with more help I I think that if I could get the
police to investigate my case that would be huge yes and but it sounds to me like the the inspector
or whoever it was who was essentially intimidating you you're not allowed to lose your temper with a
with a complaint if you're a policeman in my view and anybody any policeman who does that
uh with the intent especially you know and and it seems that he did have intent to
persuade you that you could not get a what you call it um a crime number in the UK
the equivalent of that because they did exactly the same thing with me they were so frightened
of me they knew I was telling the truth they spoke to me for two years the police
Lancashire police in the United Kingdom disgraceful police force they spoke to me for two years to keep
me warm there was no attack but they wouldn't give me a crime number and eventually my MP
would put pressure on well he put a lot of pressure on them and he couldn't get them to
issue a crime number and um but there's always a weak spot you know you can always so the most
important thing in the case like yours is to identify what is the weakest point
because once you take out the weakest point everything else comes crumbling down
right um but you know at the moment it doesn't look as though you've identified what the weakest
point is but we can help you with that maybe okay so this case of yours is just outrageous and it
reminds me of my case that was outrageous but I was right in the middle of it so in the end I
wasn't thinking straight I withdrew my case on my appeal on access to justice grounds and my with
my own lawyers arguing against me and saying you can't do that because you'll have costs awarded
against you and I just said in the end by this time I've got PTSD and I said I don't care anymore
whether they award costs against me or not and we're sick of this legal system and it doesn't work
and it's a disgrace to this country yes it doesn't work so I sort of resort to a slightly
different tactic and that is to expose my whole entire case on social media um and I have a lot
interest from just people just common people they follow me interacting with me and I think that
that's trouble the um health regulators a lot in fact one of the at one of the hearing um so when
I was proceeding to about to go to the court of appeal for my judicial review I had I wanted to
challenge a second matter which was the delegation of power to those medical counsel who suspended me
and they gave me evidence to show that it wasn't done according to law so I wanted to challenge
that the court of appeal wanted me to go to the file before the uh the tribunal first
before it could be heard in the court of appeal so when I filed that case all then the tribunal
needed to do was to dismiss my case and then I could have my hearing in the court of appeal
together with my original um challenge but what happened is that they refused to release my
judgment on on the delegation matter because they were manipulating the process and then they
allowed the hc to initiate a prosecution hearing against me so that my license can be cancelled so
that this other proceeding couldn't go ahead because it was a winning a winning case so I um
I um I I didn't know what to do 16 weeks down the track and I couldn't they wouldn't release
the judgment so I made a video outside the tribunal and I released it on social media a week later
a week later they released the judgment yes so that's why I was able to catch up and you know
they manipulate my case and I did everything to try to reverse that so I did get my court of
appeal hearing however when I got to my court of appeal they assigned a newly appointed judge
and two retired judges and they did my case and that's when I realized wow yeah exactly
one fraud to another it's just incredible um what's in what's interesting is that cost was
awarded against me but they did not claim they did not make a claim or anything like that
so I thought that was interesting I said wow because you committed fraud on my case that's
why you did you could not claim cost so one of the tactics they use is to delay delay the judgment
it's well known amongst lawyers that delaying the judgment in my case it was seven months till
I got the judgment from the so-called tribunal you know but it wasn't a kind of disciplinary
tribunal it's an employment tribunal it was a case which I brought against the British government
essentially using their legal system so I was never going to win I now realize but I thought
at the time I'm right here therefore I can win but the reality is the more right you are the more
effort they spend in trying to silence you and that's exactly what they're doing with you yeah
I think you understand it so the more right you are the more afraid they are of you and the more
they have to silence you they will go to extreme lengths to stop you but it is possible to break
them especially with your background from Cambodia killing fields so yes you've gone from one tyranny
Cambodia yeah to another tyranny Australia it's a disgrace to Australia but anyway
so the best thing you can do my Lee is to create a timeline because that was a tactic of the very
senior barrister he produced an absolutely brilliant 25 page timeline which even the well of
course the junior barrister was probably sucking up to him but he was no fool either and he said I
now understand why he wanted a timeline it was a brilliant brilliant timeline I have to say it was
about 25 pages long very detailed what you're describing is the anatomy of a of a cover-up
and and using all the state apparatus as far as I can see and and they would be but but you can
break them you can frighten that you're a woman so that helps you and you're also from Cambodia
that also I would publicize that as much as you can you came from the killing fields of Cambodia
to Australia and you find yourself in another tyranny
anyway exactly I think there's some more questions all right that's that's thank you
thank you Stephen well a point there timelines everybody I often say I often say to people who
come to me with problems to do this the quality of their statement makes a massive difference
Marley I'm sure you've done that work but generally speaking a good statement makes a
massive difference all right we're good and hands up particular attention to accuracy so that they
can't say oh she's got the wrong date here you know and therefore she's not reliable so in other
words nail everything down get people to check is that people around you you know and make sure
you've got the dates right everything right the truth everywhere as far as you know and if you're
not sure just say you're not sure yeah I try to create publicity in order to make them scared so
I am I am an extract of us down in town hall every week now and and I make a speech and then
I would publish that and I'm gonna because my my hearing is coming up next next week and I'm
trying to put pressure on them now I have something I found I discovered something really interesting
and I like your opinion and your advice so an expert witness that they have selected
it who's produced a report against me against the use of ivermectin etc he is one of their go-to man
for the last 14 years he has served as a an expert witness for them as well as a tribunal member
and he had been doing both roles for four years in that within that 14 year period that's a conflict
of interest yeah he has to be struck off struck out of the case he can't what do you say to jobs
it's a problem it's a problem having a conflict of expert in fact the rules to the court the rules
of the court normal court would not allow such an expert to give evidence so that's getting a bit
more technical witnesses we've got loads of them so if you want Sukrit Bhakdi for example
to describe the tyranny that we went through in 2020 Sukrit Bhakdi do you know him the German
the Thai German doctor oh yes doctor Bhakdi yes yeah well we can get him batting for you
other people as well right okay and so i want to ask so within that 14 years
i mean he he's no longer a he doesn't play dual roles anymore he's just an expert witness
for the last six years but he had been in the past where the roles were overlapped now i just
saw and also every outcome that he's of the case that he's involved in result in the doctor
getting like punished by by the health regulator for for for their action so i what i did was i
there were 43 case laws that he was involved in over that 40 over that 14 years period so i
summarized those and i've written a very strong letter and i just admitted to the New South Wales
Health Minister and i also filed it to the president of NCAT telling her that this is not on
and that she should kick this guy out so and i'm i'm going to also ask them why why why the court
allowed the witness to be sorry the witness to appear as an expert witness when they must have
known about this association with the court previously but what was court doing what were
the lawyers doing to allowing that witness into the case yeah attack them on all fronts
but be careful all right let's get moving sorry no go ahead Charles and Jerry Jerry's turn
Jerry you you oh that's all right hi um hi Amaila like you i was a GP i was a GP for 40 years i've
been doctor for 47 years and in after 40 years as a GP in 2020 i recognized i would differ from you
as far as the pathogenicity of the virus goes insofar as i felt that there was no there was
little or no pathogenicity to the virus other than what i had seen from coronaviruses over the
previous 40 years i refused to not examine my patients i continued working i did pretty massive
practice and had worked very hard i took two holidays in 40 years so i kind of was totally
in love with my practice totally in love with doing what i did and hugely privileged to be a doctor
a GP so but in in 2020 in coming into February and March i realized that there was no pathogen
in the community like um Ryan Cole always says that really what we do is we we watch for patterns
and that is what experience is seeing patterns there was no change in the pattern of pathogenicity
of viruses as far as i was concerned so i was so convinced that there was no virus of any relevance
that i was saying to people i said to my patients that i would happily open the um the patients in
post-mortem without using a mask that of course would have been a silly thing because it could
have had lots of other things but i was saying to patients i was so convinced and i was 70 at the
time so that i was in in the dangerous group i was totally convinced that there was no pathogen of
any relevance um that that that overall was proven i continued to examine every patient and continued
to do as what i had done for the previous 40 years and got 100 success rate in pcr diagnosed
patients that of course is the point of the whole pandemic the pandemic was a pandemic of pcr tests
not a pandemic of illness uh that that that is my belief and that i believe will be the belief that
i will bring to the grave unless i get information that changes that i believe there was no pathogen
of any great importance i never used ivermectin i never used hydroxychloroquine i never used
anything other than what i'd used for the previous 40 years and that was fundamentally examine every
patient ears nose throat chest and depending on what i found i treated or didn't treat or brought
them back and had an x-ray if if they weren't getting better and as i said i got 100 success
rate um i like you then i refused when when i did i did an ongoing battle for for for a year with
the irish medical council who um harassed me so to speak um they managed to get somebody who
complained about me refusing to uh are telling him that the mask was probably causing his problem
wearing a mask was probably causing his his tracheitis rather than anything else and um
eventually anyway when the fire when the uh vaccine so-called came around i refused to give it i was
horrified at the idea of ejecting a modified uh viral rna messenger rna into people i totally
absolutely disagreed with but then just getting on to our suspensions i've suspended in march
third of march 2021 and i've still suspended contrary to the medical practitioners act of
207 um where a according to the section 61 uh it is requirement that there be a time limit put on
my suspension the president of the high court to whom i brought before with uh two days notice
forgot to add in the suspend the the time limit whether she forgot i don't know what she did but
she retired soon after that so when i went back to the medical council he told me well as it happens
you um it's not our mistake it's the high court's mistake go back to the high court i couldn't go
back to the high court because the um the talking about the medical protection society
the you know your legal team yes they're not working for you they're working hand in glove with
the um the medical council the medical regulatory bodies these and the team is that the appointers
in ireland is a small group of teams and they and they all sort of rotate through the uh the
medical defense and the prosecution and so they're at various stages they're doing different jobs
and um so to think for one minute that you're you're going to be represented by anybody
you're anybody who will actually do what is right for you in effect they endeavour to keep me silent
which is quite a difficult thing to do under any circumstances
they um but but overall we've had a very similar kind of run through my advice to you and i you
know i i'm i'm loathed to giving advice because i'm probably not very good at following it but um
don't trust your legal team i i i they they rigged up a separate case to me to try and make me look
bad and uh the night before i dismissed my legal team the the and arrived in there to the uh inquiry
uh to saying sorry i have no legal team i'm representing myself i tore the case apart
so much so that after six days it was meant to be a one day case it went on for onto the seventh day
they sued for a piece and took the off-ramp by using what's called a section 67 and a 66
section 67 fundamentally in ireland anyway the medical practitioners act is that the cases
dropped there's no record of it on your uh there's there's no no recording on your records you've got
a clean bill of health and uh all you have to do is you know fulfill certain recommendations
um to recommend you know that i wouldn't commit the offense again i said what what what was the
offense committing a joke anyway i decided to take the section 67 to clear that out of the way
so as i can come back at them on the covert case the case to which i'm suspended um that is ongoing
at the moment so i can't say very much about it but i presented a list of 41 witnesses to them last
week to uh including the minister for health the then minister for health who happened to be
no the t-shock in ireland who happened to be with gp and uh they almost had an epileptic fit when
them when i presented them with a list of 41 witnesses knowing they knowing that i can drag
one witness out for two days on the uh on the the witness box i could analyze every word and
analyze it for five different directions because i'm just that kind of awkward bastard
um that's fundamentally what you have to be my lee you have to you you have to get a degree of
sort of uh mongrel in you as they would say in america in in in the southern hemisphere you need
a little bit of a mongrel in you i'm fortunate i was born with it um so that's what you've got
to do and the other thing don't go to brazil legally you can't win legally because the whole
the whole system is corrupted and the whole system is complicit and so you're not going to win and
don't put yourself in a situation where you are liable for for a cost so you don't instigate
anything and don't allow them put you in a situation where you could even if you're
representing yourself because they will try and screw you and they will try and destroy you
because as i say the system is complicit in the greatest crime in history so you know that's
fundamentally you're not you're not going to get justice or rather you're going to get justice
when the tide turns and the tide will turn i believe with trump being elected the tide will turn
not only in america but in in ireland and in a in australia so wait for that and keep your your
your face in the public view i've been doing that by running for elections and by running for
elections i in ireland you you get the right to post out a piece of uh information free to every
house which would be 40 euro for the for the postage stamp
so it's a cheap way of getting publicity it's a very very cheap way of getting publicity
so that's why that's what i'm using the electoral system they can now they can they can censor me or
they can they can um they can exclude me from debates and discussions which they've done
because i've attacked the green party on a number of occasions they they hate to get they run away
but uh my advice to you would be to keep your your face in the public try and you know don't depend
on any legal team because these guys are sitting down they're having golf they're playing golf
and they're having coffee behind the scenes and they will sacrifice you and they're not going to
stick their head above the parapet for your sake i try to keep my
gentleman to a young lady i i'm giving you that advice yes thank you so i try to keep my audience
um engaged by giving details of what's happening to me in my case that's why
proceeding is for me to they wanted to cancel my license for three to five years and also making
me pay for the proceeding and they want to find me as well yeah well at the end of the day they
will try to destroy you and at the last what we we get have what we call call over meetings where
we've got a sort of pre-trial uh call over meeting i said you you guys kind of missed the point this
isn't a disciplinary hearing this is in effect the start of an inquiry into the malicious
prosecution of me i intend to prove that there was a malicious prosecution oh they nearly the
legal team nearly died when i said i wasn't supposed to say that at the pre-trial thing
he said no no no i said i said what can you do to me you've already hanged me what are you going to
draw and quarter me and send me the bits from me across to each of the cities in ireland no you you've
no power over me at all and so that i i believe i know i have the frightened insiders telling me
that they hate having anything to do with me they they they they rather wrap themselves in poison
i've even invented to do with me okay thank you well said jerry i think i think we'll have to
jerry i'll set up a three-way conversation between you and mylee and me and we'll talk
offline okay absolutely i'd be very happy to chat to mylee i if i could be any help to her i i would
but i have been through it for the last five years four years anyway but in the previous year when
they were buggering me around you know jerry i i had this vision you know of you and mylee
getting long hair which you've got and riding down the streets of Dublin and Sydney naked on a horse
so you know lady godiva
well maybe maybe on a harley davison perhaps you know but but you know jerry you you know getting
the publicity you're quite right and and jerome coursey tells us and john look out she's going
to give some sanitary thoughts as well but jerry i will organize that conversation because you're
the way that jerry thinks mylee i think would you know would be of value and also vice versa
okay so we'll set that up thank you jerry and well done so mylee you need to get jerry as one
of your expert witnesses with his hair down like that with instructions he looks like um the guy
from um uh in i can't remember his name now on twin peaks i think he was the murderer you know the
the murder of laura kramer um that that would that would fit but as i say i could be equally
as vicious at my hair up up on my hair down i i am as you have a little uh what do they call it here
on the top of your head you're on the side of the back jerry no my wife says i i'm a fabulous friend
but i'm a terrible enemy i yes i i bear grudges and i'm you know i'm i'm not really a nice person
i pretend to be i could i've got a psychopathic personality i come across as a really nice person
you know psychopath so it's very important for mylee to understand that the people who she's
dealing with at the moment underneath the surface they're absolutely terrified of you mylee just like
they're terrified of jerry just like they were terrified of me they were absolutely terrified
of me and they are terrified of you too and jerry anybody who's got the truth they and all right
go on we go come on they are we keep going because otherwise you're quite right steven and you know
mylee is fighting the fight and they're in each one has a new one so john what's your thoughts on
where we're at with what we're dealing with here and the fraud that's being imposed on mylee
all right are you ready for a left turn into space mylee because you know my job view as just
providing information all right so you tell me i don't know you i don't hate you i don't hate
doctors generally but some of them i do hate um you've probably not heard this perspective before
but the first thought that comes into my head when i read your bio is you guys got what you deserve
but you only got it indirectly and for all the wrong reasons it's such a convoluted nightmare
so i apologize for this um but even in the way you tell your story you perpetrate lies um like
the infection the virus the i mean we got to just really dismiss the entire narrative here and i know
you're not prepared to do that you don't know it it took me years to figure this out i've
wrote books on it i believe i got a pretty clear view of who's guilty of what you doctors were
thrown under the bus i mean you have nothing to lose and i've said this before you're going
to be replaced and this was always a plan with a medical kiosk that suggests euthanasia either
will do it or you can do it with a vaccine and those are your only two choices regardless of
your problem all right so it's a crazy battle but you know i mean i i learned so much i was able to
take a terminal vaccine injured patient and cure them they're fine now okay everybody ignores this
because i have no credentials but if i can do this you can learn this you guys you study like crazy
right but the problem i've seen and i've talked to hundreds of doctors you have no camaraderie
your your your colleagues don't defend you you don't band together you don't ignore medical boards
like an army like you should i mean you have to become an extreme activist i heard a while about
you know rogue doctors that were making underground clinics and just being scofflaws do that you've
got nothing to lose they already took it all right you want to help somebody i would maybe take the
advice of a nurse if i was in having a problem i would never listen to a doctor ever you need to
start scribing stuff learn some real homeopathic medicine that stuff is great if you don't know it
you should um i mean this is a bit of a rant here i'm going to give you three things that are
in my view the most important things that people should be spreading instead of all this social
media story garbage all right i wrote a book on charles rachet i have yet to hear a doctor that
i meet that knows who charles rachet is do you know who he is no i don't there it is all right
i'll put it in the chat again when i get them talking to you read this book very short take
you maybe 20 minutes to cram it right and you know i'm not the greatest author it's my first book but
look the point is is salient it pulls the rug out of all the vaccines if we can just
collectively show that they did this one egregious thing all right they'll they
suppressed charles rachet he was nobel prize winner in 1913 he discovered anaphylaxis and
since that time he's been like everybody what he did nobody understands if they're in the medical
professions all it's all conflated with other garbage it it stops the train and i wrote a
book about this they took it away from me they took my royalties i mean they really
screwed me but that would be in the hand of if things were normal everybody in the world it
circled the globe seven times in three months was a best seller biden removed it or his
administration all right bakhti is very important bakhti kit he has the proof that they made that
wonderful world-changing vaccine in about an hour i knew this all right
spread that jj couey is kind of a you know an unsung hero he's you know a phd biologist he was
on his path for tenure at university i mean this guy can answer any question but he always answers
it with indoctrinated bullshit usually and he came out of here and kind of apologized he's
done it like six seven times what a guy what a brain right but you know there's no substance
to genetics there's no substance to all that kuhá that surrounds the vaccines in the immune system
all that if i can learn this you can learn this all right so the last thing um well you know it's
rachet it's bakhti it's jj couey these guys have the most important information in the world
because it proves the evil and exposes everybody involved in it you know so so
you know it you got to be a bit of a rebel but you need help you can't do it alone they'll
crucify you jail you fine you all this stuff i know it's intimidating but you know from the very
start when Rockefeller medicine took over you guys have been systematically
miseducated it's got worse worse worse so all i want to do and here's my question now that you
have this just think about this you don't have to tell me what will you do with this information
i have yet to hear back from anybody like you that i've given this information to what did you go out
and do with it i would like you to so i agree with john it's difficult for someone like my
lead to understand that they suddenly are in a position to really upset the paradigm because
she's worried about her suspension but to actually realize it quickly enough to to kind of recover
from the shock and hang on hang on stephen wait wait wait wait i think it's very important what
you say john that's why i was going to go down another angle stephen you you'll have your
comments later but i want to take john to stephen i want the views on what john said and i want the
group to suggest this my lead john says this and i agree and stephen would agree become an extreme
advocate activist okay that was the words write that down and you are doing that
i have i have yep i made uh i post all over my social media that uh symbolically i'm activist i
i'm at the steps of town hall in sydney town hall every week i um they i have my
picture my photo in fact the team that i'm working with um they're very very kind um so
i'm going to have a big poster that they've made a big poster and they're going to put it up in the
town hall we're going to have a rally outside the here at the tribunal every day at every uh for the
next four days so my hearing goes for four days and before the hearing starts we have a rally
outside and uh the tribunal for one hour so excellent brilliant john come on what's extreme
activism because my lee's doing some great work there yeah john and other people other people put
in the chat please because my lee will get the benefit of this chat of what else my league can
do i've suggested you ride down george street sydney naked on a horse but that's another you
know get along here john come on and steven what else can my lee do to be an extreme activist and
jerry as well put them in the chat john come out as a doctor and say i have been fooled my whole
life these people suckered me damn it right and and just you know most of the look everything
that i've ever been told oh your cholesterol is too high oh your blood pressure is this oh eat
this don't eat that this is harmful this is not harmful i've read so many medical papers in a
couple of years nobody saw me for like two years right and i was reading the most intense stuff
and i had to get experts and i had them they came to me and they you know tutored me and all kinds
of you know discipline so i could just interpret the vocabulary for credit life it's all crap
medical papers are crap if you're not looking at something that was pre you know a hundred years
ago your chances of reading some crap in that is you know it's probably 80 percent crap and
20 percent useful and you can't make sense of it i mean even even professionals are just misled
constantly so i i came and this was a hard-earned opinion don't read medical papers throw them out
burn the entire pile screw it start over with a blank sheet of paper because that's the only
way i got anything done um it's deep and there's no point sifting through it so just i don't know
be that guy i wanted to see that guy emerge you know so john so john come back this activist
that you know that's myley's personal actions now the issue with myley is that she wants to
practice medicine and of course that's a trap where's john there is that illegal
and promote it like a speakeasy
well what she needs to do charles is change public opinion that's what she needs to do like we
changed it with david kelly but we didn't realize we were doing that at the time yeah and john and
steven john is saying if myley stands up says i'm a try i'm an experienced doctor i have been lied
to by the system you know i have been defrauded by the system i have been defrauded by the medical
insurers yes yes absolutely charles so it's a case of myley identifying with others maybe
the points that the government doesn't want to hear and the weakest points and then repeating
so i would say myley that your best line is to say that you escaped from the killing fields
of of cambodia a dictatorship in a small boat very risky journey i imagine across the indian ocean
to australia and and you end up in another tyranny and there was no pandemic and covid 19 diagnosis
was a fraudulent diagnosis whether whether um clinically clinically or by test and um and
draw attention to kerry mullis's death in august 2019 he was the inventor of the pcr
or yeah inventor of the pcr technique um he won the noble prize for it so
you know we can discuss it but uh you could do a scatter gun approach but it depends how
you know what your family and your friends around you um but don't listen to them too much if
you feel brave i would say that the best thing you can do is be very direct um and um uh to show
absolutely no fear and not accept their paradigm or their system or their damn tribunal when there's
fraud because the fraud negates everything that they're saying yes you need to concentrate on
that fraud i think yeah listen you have to reduce your message to bumper stickers they're using
propaganda to send their message so i mean i'll give you an example i made a bumper sticker once
it just said corona i was trying to i was just discussing that exactly that trying to identify
the single most important thing that my league can highlight to win over the public so that's
the aim win over the public and and change public opinion so and that probably doesn't
yeah that's this capital for instance davin that's very interesting that's an interesting
angle i reckon that's right my lee you know yours it's a compelling story a double tyranny you've
suffered yeah i mean you have to use the way you have to look at the way that they communicate the
message oh stop the spread two weeks to you know flatten the curve all right everything that they
do fits on a bumper sticker all right and we gotta have look i come up with these off the cuff
constantly they're great you know i have a whole blog this tens of thousands of pages long like a
toilet paper roll documented this entire thing oh they're just skim look look at crap you know on
there for a while get some ideas i'm full of ideas i was out there you know creating like a clown in
full view uh just you know humbugging the entire thing stores were closing will let me in
wear your mask oh fuck off you know you know here's your card you know that comedian you know you're
stupid here's your card you should wear a sign that guy i was that guy and i did ridiculous things
but i got attention and people noticed me and i would not be ignored and i would not be deterred
and sometimes i was an asshole i learned you can't really get dick you have to you know don't don't
attack people just attack the fame the big glob and just say no stop it will you it's silly
yeah yeah i i think i like that idea bumper stickers my lee and and steven's strategy
and and jerry i will organize a three-way conversation and i'll organize a conversation
with john as well my lee offline we will um explore some interesting angles i'm totally
by the way they you know i have no income i haven't had income for years since i started talking
but i would spend my last dollar on a sticker that says fuck you like a thousand of them just
stick them everywhere because that's how i am you know keep it yes it's it's it's very interesting
mona in terms of your mindset in terms of your mindset um are you thinking
i just want to go back into the system that's been out to destroy you i mean you know i know
you want to practice medicine but or health but see the practice of medicine is not the practice
of health we've got a lot of people here who are holistic practitioners who laugh at the medical
system as does john and what you've been taught so my question is your mindset on this do you want
to get back to practicing a gp in the medicare system in australia is that what you want to do
do well charles i was going to give it up before the pandemic came but i'm fighting this um because
i i i'm really telling telling them that i have no right to take to cancel my license i have not done
anything wrong and so whether i practice this not is none of their business uh but they have no rights
to take it away that i have not done anything to warrant a cancellation um to justify a cancellation
of my license so i you know i i'm in this fight to expose the lies more than fighting for my
license but i know they've they've done everything to try and destroy me and they couldn't they can't
even though they're doing what they're doing now uh because i'm exposing them all the time and they
i don't know what they're going to do to me but they i like like i agree they they scared of me
so i served the um the health minister yesterday with all these case laws and and the lies and
about this um expert witness and i'm i'm making it public i'm telling my audience what i'm doing
all the time so there's a lot of interest in my case oh that's a very good tactic by the way
to publish everything we did that with yeah yeah yeah they're terrified of what everything
everything you say it gets published every letter you write publish it and then they're terrified
of replying to it and then you can get them for not replying yes yes they have done that so the
president of the tribunal apologized to me um because i i written to her that i told her that
she's interfering with um the judicial system and uh my uh my my legal process and she's scared
and she did write to me that she won't write to me again but i wrote to her yesterday and i um
served i hadn't delivered that to the tribunal yesterday you know such a lot of apologize to
you she should declare her her um court null and void i would have thought what do you think joss
that's a bit that's a bit technical just hold that thought john what we're gonna say
do you know who sasha lotta pova is and katherine why did i do what great evidence but you know my
point about that is kind of conflicted because she's kind of saying you know go into the legal
system and use this effectively but you can't because it's rigged and stacked against you
you'll get a clue to slap you in the face at the end of it right so i don't know really helpful
but it's good information you know it's very good information and you don't have to do it it's all
there i mean it's a it's a unbelievable archive of crime they're legalizing crime they're redefining
you could put that evidence in your bundle that'll keep them busy for a while
it'll keep them really busy and i mean it's documented it's the u.s government that is
killing and murdering and genociding people right i mean how have you got that can you send that to
me i uh i like them to keep them busy like you say that sounds good i like that she's got a
subset my leg can you put my leg can you put your um email for everybody email address put your email
into the put your email in the chat i can send me email i'll respond to you i'll give you all kinds
of stuff i think it's my lee i think you've got a wonderful opportunity here because you don't
seem to be afraid of them at all that's great um and um and you said that you don't really i don't
think you can fit into that system any more than i could eventually i came out in 2021 and told and
withdrew my first my license and then my registration because i didn't want these
bastards at the general medical council in the united kingdom to be snapping at my heels and
stopping me from saying the things which i knew i have to say because they were inventing complaints
against me in the general medical council they had an they had an anonymous person who was lodging
the complaint against me about what i can't even remember what it was about it's some ridiculous
thing um um covid related and this person was actually speaking on behalf of being spoken for
on behalf of someone else who was named but nobody could find so it's the same story as yours
invented complaints yes yeah they this is lawfare you know yes create a case out of thin air just to
create um there was a guy who listened to i can't remember his name right now but he was very good
at describing this um a a way in the u.s to create like a shadow or or a captured branch of
government like a shadow legislature using the judiciary to impose precedents that then become
law subvert the entire process so they are impotent and so stop listening to them okay to have no
power okay they just create havoc that's their job now and yeah you know i just i'm down on the
whole system because you know in it's taken 200 years but they took the original constitution
united states and completely gutted it now it's worthless so go out complain about your rights if
you want to you don't have any because they say you don't have it that's what it comes down to
you gotta make it real again some of these people are gonna be shot in the face i'm sorry to say
but they do they will not stop because i cannot back up you know and it's it's tragic man but
you know aristotle put it in polity what's going on now you have you have a devolution into
oligarchy from whatever you started with and that is a one-way street 3600 years of history and
nobody has proved him wrong and it never backs up it just destroys itself and you got to start over
it's a blank sheet of paper right you gotta start over so fuck this system it's all so i could
yeah so my lee um so i and uh uh i'm in malik uh i'm one of the two doctors i know he's done the
same thing withdrew from the general medical council because it was too dangerous to stay in
not too dangerous it wasn't that but i certainly didn't want them snapping at my heels and taking
my time answering uh ridiculous complaints you know so i came out but the point is that so we
weren't cancelled we cancelled ourselves but we were deprived of our professions so we had been
fraudulently led down a path which led to 2020 and the medical profession doing all the wrong things
and one of these days i'll write a letter to the times and to the general medical council and pass
it on to the times and they'll pat and they'll publish it but i haven't got the time at the
moment because i'm organizing these meetings so show no fear is my advice they hate it they're
terrifying on my lead especially with your background of the killing field of cambodia
yeah you survived that you survived the australian version so what i think you also should think
about is maybe we're living now through a cultural revolution very much similar not exactly the same
obviously but similar to mao zedong's cultural revolution in china 1966 to 1976 complete with
propaganda censorship things which don't make any sense at all and that's the point you destabilize
human beings best by exposing them to stuff constantly which does not make sense it's
psychological torture to any human being they did it deliberately are doing it deliberately
it's a cultural revolution yeah and you know about cultural revolution i presume because of
cambodia yeah yes so you can bring it into the mix and then have to have to answer your
observations about that because you know they want to be culturally um you know correct politically
correct um yeah very good they're not done with this yet i mean they're destroying the u.s
when we fall its all bets are off it's now or never you know it's never never
treason in the u.s treason in the uk look at kia starmer my prime in our prime minister
he's a complete crazy guy he's got absolutely no charisma whatsoever considering
he was supposed to be a politician he couldn't he can't even lead his own family i won't go into
detail so how on earth could he lead the nation i feel like sometimes like a mouse that's getting
screwed with by a giant cat or 12 of them right because that's what they've created here and
and i mean you're i tell people you know when it comes to medical advice there are no doctors
at all you're on your own figure it out send your own whatever i mean there are no experts
there are no doctors turn it off right they're all supplied just to just to make it a career
choice to learn what's wrong just take a year what's wrong oh my god nobody has this kind of
time i i write books i can't even talk they censor me i mean christ what does an author do when they
take his career away what do you do when they take your career away frankly you never have one okay
they gave you a bunch of bullshit but you know but me i just can't i can't talk to people i'm
censored beyond belief i can't even live in my own website is that ridiculous you know censored
here john well you know what just crazy when i i don't use social media just quick just find
something else when i want to get in touch with a prominent figure i gotta send a certified mail
letter that gets to them my email is totally unreliable i've been trying to touch with people
for years they think it's worthless you know you're just not important i'm just not important
but i kind of am because i know things you know what i mean and i'm amazed at what i've been like
just the reach i've been able to have by brute force you know and that's how i'm doing it and
i'm tired man i'm really tired i'm gonna answer emails and do you think um so i'm not um this
isn't a kind of make or break question but in your opinion as a medical doctor in australia
do you think there was a pandemic was there a pandemic or wasn't there a pandemic
um so i so i treated covid patients um how did you know they were how did you know they were
covered patients so mildly so they the symptoms were um i mean they it's it's a
it it's very different from a normal virus well i'm not sure that that was put about and a lot
of doctors say that but uh so i'm not surprised to say that but honestly i i was saying from the
beginning almost that you know this diagnosis was fraudulent and the pcr test was fraudulent
yes i agree with with you on all that i don't have no issue with that but there is the virus
there was no symptom and um i mean okay it's not you know the fatality rate wasn't as high as they
made it to be uh but they create a situation where people are not treated so there's more debt so
that they could justify whatever they're doing and also this they falsify seeing the covid death
to drive up the numbers so uh i mean to say there's no virus i disagree with that no i didn't say
there's no virus i said there was no reliable diagnosis there was no yes correct there was no
which was pathognomonic for covid 19 and interestingly and interestingly pneumonia
and the common cold disappeared uh pneumonia and flu disappeared um and uh you know so they're not
in the statistics apparently in 2020 but covid is and i'm thinking whoa you know there was no i can't
think of a single symptom of covid 19 alleged symptom which was pathognomonic for covid 19
so that tells me there was no covid 19 they do this all the time and you got to understand
something it's you're being a little set up with the no virus crowd and jj couy hits it on the head
over and over and over again he made this point about that argument you can't just say there's no
and win yes i believe that there's no viruses okay they there was never a disease there was
never a pandemic they wanted an excuse to poison you with an injection in the way that they would
take hold and decimate the population as a slow burn that's the truth it's another level of this
thing what jj says is if you say that there's no viruses you have to then explain all the literature
that's built up about them over the years and it's an endless test you can't do it you have to go
all the way back to the original mistake which was germ theory it's wrong okay there are no
contagions get it out of your head then explain all the nitpicky issues but it's a slog right
what he says if you accept no virus as the win uh you then have to you're left with one option
to revert back to the original understanding you have before that which was spirits and demons
okay so nobody's gonna accept spirits and demons except people in the south over here um it's hard
it's it you gotta just say look viruses is crap their explanations the whole thing 50 years 100
years of it crap and you gotta get current and you gotta look at it from where it started the
root of the poisonous tree is Rockefeller medicine so your bumper sticker is Rockefeller is dead
leave him lie if you know you gotta start fresh you can't build on so my Lee in my opinion as
medical doctors we are allowed to hypothesize we're allowed to have a medical opinion my medical
opinion was not only that there was no pandemic but the pandemics are not possible we were taught
at medical school that a deadly virus kills its host and I asked the uh immunologist professor
immunology at the time as quick I said does that mean that pandemics are impossible he said very
good steven I had no idea why he said very good at the time I now understand why he might have said
that and might have suspected what he knew they were going to do i.e. destroy immunology the
immunologists take away their status as the kings of medicine if you like and and replace them with
virologists do you see so that they could and evidence-based medicine and genomics and all the
rest of it you know so that we're all saying oh how wonderful all this science is you know and then
we lose sight of the fraud and then they're able to do what they did in 2020 and that's it that's
what I think happened and we need to be we need to be really um we kind of cancel everything and then
say what do we really know well we don't really know very much do we I don't even know now whether
it's 93 million miles to the sun I always thought it was but wasn't around about that
they they they're very clever this is consummate elite psychopathy behavior you study you know
psychopaths and how they're diagnosed and what's wrong with them that's different that makes them
different this is the big club that george carlin used to talk about their psychos okay and they
just have no remorse they can't tell right from wrong for some reason they have no empathy and so
the relentless pursuit of profit entertains them and they compete and we just get get run over by
this and they deceive like nobody can deceive I mean it's unbelievable you almost have to think
like them and I have a hard time doing it but if I can put myself in the mindset long enough
I can get to the bottom of any other crap and I do it over and over and over again
psychopaths are the problem there's a test that they diagnose psychopaths for and I've argued
that should be given as a prerequisite to every single politician and if they fail it you can't
run oh I can think of another expert witness you should have Mikey Eden
I think it's too close to my hearing now so I've got all right yeah well you could ask for an
adjournment we did that all the time no they won't they won't let me have an adjournment
they um my my last hearing my hearing initially was scheduled for um July um they gave me a legal
team that was working against me and it's I mean I'm very fortunate to to to have a hearing
adjourned till now so there's there's no way they're going to grant me any adjournment unless
there's something very you know they'll grant an adjournment if you wanted to introduce
secret back to you as one of your expert witnesses and mike eden and if they don't then yeah he's
got a mission he's got a singular mission he wants to show everybody this proof that he has
and it's good proof it's good proof it's like it took two years for Sasha Wadapobina to find my
book even though I put it in her hand when she came to this group my case is about other mcdon
more than the virus um okay they're charging me for ignoring the national task force guideline
for babies well the national task force were imposing a fraud on the australian people
yes so you should say that in court okay yeah the national tech the national task force guidelines
they were actively working against the state of australia or the country of australia whatever it
is um they were committing treason and they were doing it in all the countries of the world just
about taking out their own countries so another thing it's god it seems to be that god family
country this is the they want to take those three things away from people they want to take people
away from their humanity by the means of destroying country destroying family destroying the church
god whatever you like because they're terrified of real i'm not a christian myself although i'm
getting there maybe um i think they're really terrified of the spirituality which exists in
churches throughout anything steven they're not they're not intimidated by us at all we have to
take no they are they if we were clever we would be writing letters of warning to these people
all the time but unfortunately people are not very um uh they don't want to work and don't
want to take responsibility and they're too lazy and charles and i can't do it all on our own or
yeah i i um i've motivated a lot of my followers to write to them and then i post the letter
on social media so yeah that's been because i think they do take notice of what the public saying
absolutely they do this terrified of the public janet is a doctor in the uk and she's got a hand
up janet janet what's your name i can't remember sorry janet janet's unmuted herself janet we can't
hear you
janet we we can't hear you i don't know what's wrong
and steven we can't see you janet you probably need to go out and then come back in again
anybody else got any points ronald you can oh you're on your motorbike well maybe
um ronald if you've got any religious points you'd like to make
no he's on his bike you can't possibly talk i can i could add something i don't think
i don't think it's really all right i'm gonna i'm gonna you know i try not to talk about religious
i don't go to church i don't subscribe to anything all right i just live okay and i
don't concern myself with any of that so i don't get admired down those discussions i don't think
religion is very important i don't know i know a lot of people do but it doesn't matter what you
believe in i think that the the core to every good religion that you know it's not a cult or something
it's just it's not a cult it's not a cult it's not a cult it's not a cult it's not a cult it's not a
good religion that you know it's not a cult or something it's just natural law study natural law
and do that and observe whatever religious you know system floats your boat and don't bother me
with it if i don't want to get indoctrinated into it that's all i've been you know subscribing to a
bunch of them over time my mom's a devout catholic i've always heard about that but it's like they use
they use whatever your core beliefs are to screw you so don't have any you know just leave it aside
it's a personal thing like it should be you know and do what you want to i mean that's just my take
on it and the people that are guilty they are the richest people you can find nearest to you always
always because the psychopath rises to the top of any pile by hook or crook those are the days
wherever you are all right speak they lie come on we got this where where that's a great
commerce we'll have a conversation about religion um jen is not talking steven i think we can call
we can call early finish today you can get to sleep um mylee i will organize conversations with
john and with jerry and um that's what i think we should do steve no chance let's just see whether
jan is there is she there now she's not if you go off and come back in you might you you might
cure the problem now in terms mylee i've got some thoughts we'll talk about what to be
i had become an extreme activist more thoughts so that's what i really want to explore with you
and i think you've done a fantastic job in fighting in fighting for um what you have so far so
steven you know come on we can we can go to bed early or mylee yeah okay other things too
yeah are you going to bed now in australia no i um no all right morning
all right so my lead you know charles is very devoted to this group he used to get up at five
o'clock in the morning he's done that for three or four winters now four thirty four thirty steven
so we could start yeah that's what i call commitment yes that's why he's the moderator
all right tom's got his hand up tom okay um yeah with respect to the after meetings we
we can use the you know the telegram meeting to if people have ideas for organizing and
if the guest wants to join that would be great i'm i just keep the door open often there's
only one or two people that show up but i try to make at least i try to hang out there so you know
we're talking about what we can do and so it's a place to brainstorm and because there's so few
people that join you know it's uh it's an open forum so i'll put the link in again
tom you don't want to advertise the fact that so few people join because then they don't come
no actually i think that might be uh you know if for shy people right that's a plus you don't have
to go you know worry about anyhow i've said enough good okay thank you tom to the guest
all right let's try janet
no can't hear him janet even though you're unmuted
janet can put a question in the in the chat because she usually asks good questions
janet
oh okay now we're going my lee thank you so much for coming on and uh did anybody ask you about
or did you so i was a bit late coming on and i may have missed the the boat journey from
cambodia um you were five years old then no 12 years old well yeah uh there was something in
your bio about when you were five years old what was that the killing fields yes so my my mom um
i left cambodia and came to live in vietnam um just before the marush came to power
and i lost my mom after that your mom was left in cambodia yes my parents and two other sisters
were in cambodia so how did you get out to vietnam were you sent out or yeah i was sent out by my
my mom my my parents sent me out to live in vietnam with my auntie i see but they kept the two your
two sisters yes the two older sisters so one older and one younger so they yeah so they lived
through the kamarush and um but when um in 79 when the kamarush regime ended uh with the vietnamese
invade in cambodia um they um my my elder sister sent um some people to to fetch my mom
my dad sorry and my two siblings yeah so then they came to live in vietnam but we're all here now in
simi yeah but was your mother killed by the kamarush yes she was killed by the kamarush she was
reported by someone in the in the village we live in out of jealousy
um you know anyone can dock in anyone um she did nothing wrong they're just jealous of her because
she's rich and she's successful um and what did they accuse her of doing oh you don't want to say
maybe um no no she didn't well you don't have to this you don't have to justify anything
anyone can dock anyone in and um so this you know what kind of things were the kamarush interested
in that's what i'm trying to well well the thing is that you if you're educated if you're rich if
you you know if you wear glasses if you just just anything any excuse to um um to go after you so
they they uh i mean this nothing is justice they just
if someone doesn't like you and they report you you're in trouble that that kind of thing
um that um idea of doping you know they encourage the doping of people
what's doping well it's just like during covid you adopt your neighbor doing this wrong that wrong
that kind of thing trivial things but that's to to cause division in society to create to generate
fear absolutely yeah
and so they can pose tyranny on people and justify mistreatment of people so do you know
anything about the kamarush what was was that a cultural revolution in in cambodia um no i think
i think uh i mean i i don't know a lot about it but um um what happened is that during that time
cambodia um i mean cambodia has always been um a country with uh with a lot of wealth with a lot of
with a lot of you know uh that a lot of wealth and a lot of richness in culture and all that but
what happened during the vietnam war is that the there was a lot of bombing the american were bombing
the um the vietnamese the vipcon uh but the vietnamese in the north what happened is that
they went through the south via cambodia and so that the vietnamese the the american were bombing
cambodia um because they were trying to get to vietnamese but what did that did was it stabilized
a destabilized cambodia and as a result this you know this this group of um
socialist i think they're more socialist um that the kamarush came into power because the country
started to um sort of destroyed by by by by the american bombing yeah and i think cambodia was the
most holds the record for being the most bombed country in the world yes
uh ahead of population i think it is or is it area i can't quite remember
yes so kissinger um ordered the bombing and the carpet bombing so just there's so much bombing
on a regular basis over a period of time and um the the country just get got destroyed by that
um
even um janet's question is in the chat and she maybe she may have her microphone working i just
want to let you know all right well alaska wants to ask the question now as well so is janet are
you there janet uh nope so i'm reading the question
now of janet's question oh janet's background
janet's got a problem with a microphone i think okay she's asking about the symptoms of covert
patients um so they generally cold symptoms but they're a lot more severe um people had a lot of
so there's sore throat um huffing um muscle pain um high fever um so so all the common um symptoms
of the flu of cold but it's a lot lot more severe people were just really really sick
um and almost every single one of them even those who are young and who doesn't have any
morbidities they still quite unwell
was that all the was that the question i think that's what she yes so what exactly was the
question what what were the symptoms of the covert of covert patients oh yes
so okay do you want to answer that my lee or what do you think
yeah so they yeah thank you very much uh dr janet wanted to know the difference that you
you saw in patients between a patient who was ill with any other pathogenic illness versus
having a covert infection if you could please share with us those differences and also i wanted
to add the frostbite that was another symptom characteristic of covert infection as well
in patients thank you okay thank you marie thank you so like i said um the um patients were a lot
lot sicker they um so muscle pain was a very um common um symptom um they're just more more severe
um so high fever coughing people were coughing like they couldn't stop their coughing they're
so distressed by the coughing and then there's symptoms like loss of taste loss of smell
has been quite common um and i i treated patients during the um the delta wave and that's um that's
most um i mean that's the most severe strain and um so in terms of
whether i mean i i haven't seen anyone with symptoms of frostbite or anything like that
you were saying associate with um covert 19 well i think frostbite was the suggestion that
micro emberly was causing the the so-called frostbite right i'm not asking you i can't
remember i don't know i i haven't heard of that before so loss of taste and loss of smell i had
that when i had cold and i was amazed that everybody forgot that and and the government
was saying oh if you've got loss of taste and loss of smell you've got covet and everybody
forgot that they didn't have any taste and smell sense of taste and smell when they had a cold
previously and certainly not when they had flu whatever flu is and these days i don't know i
really don't know anything about what we were taught at medical school but one thing i'm
i'm sure of my lee it's extremely dangerous and we were told this at medical school by presumably
an honest he said that um never isolate human beings it's extremely dangerous for human beings
there's highly social animals they must never be particularly children but particularly babies so
if you put a baby in a room on its own for a week without with food and water yeah it might not
survive apparently so so they must all the medical doctors in the world should have known that it was
highly dangerous to isolate people and lockdowns were always a bad idea completely against
everything we'd been taught at medical school so if nothing else all doctors in the world should
know that human beings are highly social animals but apparently they forgot that
and so everybody was put into a state of fear and that was exposed to fear propaganda so not
surprisingly the symptoms of covet 19 so-called were a lot worse than flu and because people
were terrified and we learned at medical school anxiety extreme anxiety can kill you
it can cause any symptom in the book and everyone forgot it all the doctors forgot they forgot all
about informed consent everything in my family was a lie that was a massive lie um it was a military
cyop i think but anyway um marie do you want to ask your question
thank you steven uh dr may lee has already answered my questions thank you very much
okay thank you so my lee can you tell i've never i don't think i've ever met anyone from cambodia
previously uh at least you used to live there you know are you still a cambodian citizen by the way
uh uh yes i am good yeah have you been back to cambodia i have so i um before i got suspended
i was i've been doing um mission in cambodia or medical mission in cambodia every year for
over decades or for about 12 years um i treat patients in the rural area of cambodia providing
free health care now for them so i do that um about one to two trips a year uh we usually go
to different villages and how long do you stay there um anywhere from um a week and a half to
three weeks yeah all right so um and uh so you can speak the the local languages yes even though
no not really i i could understand a lot but um i can't really um speak very well um but i i work
with um a group there um a local organization there so um they support me with you know i have
support translators and that sort of thing um yeah so there's um university students would come and
join their mission and they do all the translation for us foreigners yeah so you now live in cindy
which is a big city even by well two three million is it two point five million no i think six plus
all right is it wow it's growing that so um you go back to fenong pen what's the most what's the
most do you notice the differences or are you too familiar with it uh well over the years i noticed
that people are getting fat on yes and you know from the beginning when i first joined till
now like oh 12 years yeah every every time i come back i notice that uh people are getting fat on
and what do you think the reason for that is food obviously diet yeah so what do they eat then
burgers in in philomphina yes so they um they embrace a lot of the western lifestyle and western
um food and um yes so they're getting trendy and um um they got fast food have you got the
cursed mobile phones that yes and the mobile phone yes and certainly they're less active
so in flompen would you see would it be quite common to see a table of four
people say the age of um what should we say 18 sitting at a table none of them talking to each
other all looking at their phones having a cup of coffee in the coffee shop um yes i think so yes
well what do you think of that then um well it's like that everywhere isn't it
oh the world they got us you think it's good that we're doing that sorry you think it's good
that we're doing that you know on our mobile phones or the social media but not talking to
people around us yeah no obviously not good i mean um we are social creature like you said
so um but um we've got this addiction to technology they got us hooked they got us
they kept us busy do you think they did do you think they planned to get us hooked on get everybody
hooked on technology too yes i believe so i believe so so that they won't we won't fight back we're too
busy getting addicted to things or taking photographs which they're then posting
so they can get some likes yes from all the people who agree with them all around the world
that's right they decide to have a conversation with someone because they are human beings they
realize in the end so they need to start talking to human beings again and then they find oh the
first human being they come across disagrees with them and so they think oh this is far too
difficult talking to someone who disagrees with me um i don't want to hear this i'd rather go back
to my mobile phone and social media and get a few likes and and never be challenged on anything and
just get deeper and deeper into the um rabbit hole the the echo chamber what do you think
um as a doctor i mean it's not very good is it no it's not yeah i mean i think it's um it's most
destructive for for children because they they develop developing their social skills
and things like that at you know at any age i've got any social skills in the united kingdom
and yes so same here in australia a lot of kids are given you know ipad iphone and um yeah they
they lost their social skill they lost their ability to relate to people communicate to people
i think it's very very serious it really is i think i think this was their aim and people are
losing their humanity in front of my eyes you can't you know they've got no manners anybody
under the age of 40 has no manners if you say good good morning to them or good evening to them
especially good evening you know it's far too formal um uh they nearly jump they look at you
so what i usually do if they kind of don't answer i say good evening again i double double down
yeah
but most of the time i well i try to be kind but it's you know it's very frustrating because these
people who are brainwashed they're going to take us down with them have you read about the history
of cambodia my lee i just wonder whether you could tap because nobody knows about the killing even i
don't know about what was the real what are the killing fields well you know with those what the
khmer rouge were they were killing their political opponents or no they're killing their own people
yeah but why though what was the um why well we don't even know why so um like i can only
share what happened to my family so my sister my elder sister just got married at the time
uh when when kamarush came into power so she she just moved in with her husband
in this house in the city of lom pen and 11 days later after they move in um the um kamarush um
evacuate the city so everybody were kicked out of their home um you've got a very short time
to grab what you whatever you have and they kicked them out and they pushed them into um
into to cultivate the land so they have to become farmers so like in china then
um i don't know exactly what happened in china but but that's what happened cambodia so these
people were forced to to work on the land um my friend um in cambodia he's he just he said to me
that it was about i think 14 he was made to um dig uh dig like an area and they every day he was
given a task to to dig an area of the land um every day and and they they they were forced to
live like a community so they they separate the the children from their parents um the the
they separate husbands and wives so my my parents were separated um and the children were
my my sisters were not with living with my my parents so they separate families um
they're forced to work on the land and they gave very them very little food to eat and anyone that
so my mom was taken to a um a camp like a a women's camp and um after a period of time they decided
to kill them and that was it um at the women's camp were they kind of sex slaves or no no no
not sex slaves they just um no i don't know exactly what activities they were doing but um
it's just it's like to me it's like they they they have control over you um in everything that you do
so you're you're not free to do whatever you want you you are being controlled every day and you're
given tasks a bit like in our countries um during 2020 the co the covet area yes incredible isn't
yeah so the people imposing the control mildly are human beings they're mere human beings who
don't even know sorry yeah so do uh one of the things i think think about a lot is that
after this last five years i think a lot of you most human beings are utterly ridiculous they have
a inflated idea of who they are and and yet every human being should know or should remember that
they're gonna die in the end you know so why would you why would you have a a massive opinion
of yourself if at the it all comes to an end obviously it's nice to live in a kind of uh
illusion a comfortable illusion but but to kind of go further and tell the world how to live you
know and take yourself so seriously you know and and be interviewed see do you see it it's just
ridiculous isn't it i think human beings the best thing we can learn is to be humble after the last
five years because human hubris is not only ridiculous but it just leads us into massive
deadly cults as far as i can see what do you think um yeah i think that um people are
um unaware of the consequences of their action so they um participate in
um crime against people um they don't realize that um they themselves become a problem
problem they become a perpetrator so to speak you know they've been used by um by the people who
who um have agendas um yeah i think people are not very not very smart and um
um and they don't think hard enough they they don't know you know over history it's the same
thing happened right so history repeats itself so the people that are made to do the dirty work
um you know for these evil people and um and um and also i i think that people don't have courage
to correct uh to stand up and that's the problem we face nowadays um they they train us to be
to be tolerant um to not speak out truth to accept anything and everything and um and so because of
that we've been trained to to be passive and to not stand up for what we believe in and that becomes
um you know a norm so it's it's you know so when this pandemic came i was so surprised that
hardly any doctors speak out um even they believe that it was wrong um
um and and i think that you know if there if there were many people speaking out at the time
it would have been different absolutely yeah but the problem is i think um
oh i don't know that that not enough human beings are courageous enough but also they're not able to
see what you could see you know because maybe because of your connection with cambodia you
know and how and your mother and all that you know um so you've been kind of wakened up by that and
you're alert to danger more alert to danger and you understand the importance of being alert to
danger whereas in the uk for example a lot of people just drift along through life you know
even through the covid times you know i've got friends former friends should we say because i
don't feel i don't feel angry with them but but i find it boring to be with them because you have
to avoid covid all the time and and if you if you'd say anything the next thing is you know
you know what you're talking about because you've been researching it for five years
and they've done nothing they haven't yes yeah i think uh so i i have thought about why i was able
to come to know the truth quite early and um and i think it's because um like you said the traveling
and and my my past but also i was sort of out of the system out of the medical system for uh for
a while i wasn't doing a lot of work um as a doctor um and um i was doing other things and that sort
of gave me a different perspective like i wasn't being brainwashed by the system constantly um i
had time to do other things and um think about other things um but what happened during the
pandemic that that woke me up was was actually the financial system so i was i was quite certain that
you know our debt-based system was going to go downhill and it was going to be destroyed and it's
going to be replaced by something else and i was on the watch of what was going to emerge at that
time um so you know so um and i followed the u.s uh election uh donald trump's election and able to
see um the um you know how they infiltrate the political system how the media was telling lies
um how you know they could steal um a u.s election um in broad daylight that kind of thing that sort
of really shocked me at the time so that was happening just before covid so when when they
was a pandemic um coming and you know they declared the pandemic um and and they locked down Wuhan
i mean i was on high alert it's like my goodness what's what's gonna happen if there's something
really ominous gonna happen so there's a there's a guy called james patrick who who's a brilliant
filmmaker and he i don't know he he's just different from all the other he he's got this
kind of he's in um uh reliable of feelings maybe about situations you know but
and he did this film and he opened the film absolutely brilliantly i thought so i'd seen
other examples but i thought the beginning of the film um planet lockdown was just amazing
started off with a newscaster uh the mainstream media in the united states and the guy was standing
up and talking to the camera and he said good evening as i speak much of america is closing
down and then it immediately switched to that freak of a of a mayor s in chicago i can't remember a
name and she said um we will pursue you we will shut your businesses down we will send you to jail
and i thought well that that could happen in the united states of america it was just a big shock
for me and this film director james patrick had he tapped into the sadness you know of the
destruction of the world that we knew before 2020 so in 2020 i understood immediately there was a
global coup d'etat and that um that this um the whole thing was a fraud uh and and i didn't know
then that there was no pandemic i didn't understand that uh but i thought that um
that the uh i noticed that governments around the world were saying exactly the same thing so
whatever had been absolutely minutely planned and um so uh but you know in some ways i looked back
on what had happened to me in the previous 20 years and it was like my whole life was leading
up to this moment i don't know whether you understand that from your you know when you
realize that stephen sorry i missed i said that when i knew i seemed to know what was happening
and everybody around me including my own family had no idea what was happening and didn't see
that this was deeply upsetting and very worrying and um i couldn't understand it first but then i
realized that that i was i didn't understand it but i was i'd been a serial whistleblower
and i'd always been speaking my truth and i not only but i had this uh compulsion almost to
ask questions and say what my truth was whatever the consequences and i think i was saved from
i think i was perceived as dangerous but um by the people you know who were playing the game
um and um but i think what saved me for some reason people like me and and kind of wanted to
find excuses for not going for me you know yes um um we experienced the same thing here in australia
so um you're not allowed to speak out um and especially with doctors um i mean one of my
colleagues um dr oosterhaus uh all he did was i think he posted about 10 posts about vitamin c
i have a mectin vitamin d something like that um and he got suspended so um the censorship was
incredible um my question to you my question to you um my lee you did you get the feeling
eventually that not only were you your life had been different from you know your mother
dying in the circumstances she died i'm sorry about that um but that kind of formed you and
and that put you in a better position to be on the alert for fraud or for lies you know so you knew
quicker than everybody else around you but did you feel also that your when you looked back at your
life so far did you did you feel that your whole life so far had been preparing you for this moment
in 2020 um yeah i do in some some way yeah um so i um uh yes so so my family uh my immediate family
um were not awake at all i mean i i i tried to to tell tell them and they sort of half believing
and half not believing i was so fearful that they would take the vaccine so some didn't some didn't
but it was it was hard so the hardest thing for me during the pandemic was to try to convince the
people that i love that i care for the truth and they wouldn't listen um and that was so
distressing because i just think that if you know the truth you can survive it um you can
survive through this pandemic just as long as you don't take the lethal work you know the lethal
injection so um but i attempt to share this information and um they they don't believe me
so that what did you think about that did you think that they didn't like you or didn't some
respect no no there was nothing to do with that i i they were so captured um that the government's
doing the right thing and um you know that they couldn't see the plot that we could see and and
that's because they've never experienced war they've never experienced um any living in
they've never experienced living in a country where the government can turn on the people
and i have so so for them you know being brought up and raised in a you know in a what i think is
democracy in australia um and and being where the government looks after its people and for
for all of a sudden for that to change and turn the other way around it was impossible for them
to see so you know they call me crazy and um all kinds of things but um that was i find it hard to
cope um you're a medical doctor do you think so hypothesizing you know as we need to do with
very sick patients i think we're surrounded by these very sick patients every day now and i think
that they're all in the state of stockholm syndrome as a result of the psychological torture to which
they're exposed by their own government what do you think yes um so that that you know in australia
america is better but in australia a lot of people are still in the dark um and they continue to take
the jab um they continue to believe this lie and it goes on and on and i don't know when it's going
to end um yeah um i i think you know without some serious treatment they're going to remain in the
state of stockholm syndrome until they die as far as i can see and essentially their souls have been
ripped away from them that's how i know about that but i just think that um you know the the
government while they still in power uh we have two two two major parties um that's um controlling
i mean um that that's in power but what i'm saying is that they they will not with the way things are
going they're not able to they're not allowing the truth to come out and they continue to control
the narrative in both both major parties so until the people until there's enough people to um
to fight back and to resist and to really fight back when they're suffering from stockholm syndrome
if they are suffering do you see what i mean yeah but i still think that the you know it's a it's
it's the people still listen to authorities and and and you know the health authorities so when
if if if there are enough people um um taking control over parliament um influencing policies
and things like that it will change so until there's enough of that influence in in our
parliaments we're going to continue this path of the lives continuing um and and um more lives will
be lost yeah uh today i was sent uh by the daily mail actually um uh something from claiming to be
a congress report which is dated the fourth of december that's tomorrow and so there's been an
investigation as far as this document was concerned so it was dated tomorrow but that would be
consistent with you know the report being leaked to the press um a day early so that they can report
it on the day that is uh so uh but uh somebody said that it was a fake document i'm not sure
because i know the journalist who supplied me with this with this document and the congress
investigation uh into the lockdowns and the whole thing concluded that the um the cure must never
be worse than the disease i.e. lockdowns and everything was conceded by congress if it was
congress um to have been wrong but uh that operation warp speed surprisingly was a was
a success they concluded interesting isn't it wow yes the same here in australia so when we had the
have you heard about this report my lee no i haven't i think it's coming out tomorrow they talk
about the u.s this is the u.s congress yeah u.s congress report uh i can't remember sub
covid subcommittee or something right or covid committee hi steven uh john has a question for
the doctor all right oh i was just go ahead john listening to your conversation and thinking of
things and i don't know i do that i'm not really in the conversation i know but you know it just
it just i would sum up my activity as boiling things down to the root of any problem and
just attacking that nothing else because i can trim trees all day and people have their pet
projects and everybody likes oh have you seen this and have you done that and what's this i mean
you take a guy like trump this was the thought came to me you take a guy like trump and this
thing that as operation warp speed steven mentioned the man got elected to be the president
of the united states take that as astonishing considering the fact that he to even to this day
brags about genociding americans that is beyond belief to me and how can anybody not see that
i mean you have to be mind controlled mind control is real because that's an example of
and just look at the the biggest thing right these elections are so ridiculous every year is more
important the last one that's always the most important one bullshit okay you if voting mattered
you wouldn't be allowed to do it i know people will attack me especially soldiers screw them all
right i'm right when this guy reveals himself i will win all of my points i'm not going to waste
my breath on it now all right he's probably going to be the last president i i expect it he's going
to preside over a disaster i mean if he truly was a threat to the deep state they would execute him
all these assassination attempts i'm sorry glenn macco wherever you are are horseshit theater acts
i mean i give you 22 reasons why the first one never happened nobody will address that they're
like flat earthers okay it's incredible the loyalty that you know the patriotism that is just
fabricated nonsense based on nothing this guy has been a failure at every single thing he's ever done
in his life and effectively broke the entire time he is entirely beholden all of his wealth to his
frenemies he is he is not a rebel he's a jackass actor i'm sorry anybody likes him okay but you
know and the argument that oh the other one was worse is probably valid i mean we had but trevor
loudon come out here make a great case for that i thought but it just delays the inevitable you know
it is whoever you will believe in it's not what they're going to do or what they can well we'll
soon know about trump won't we if he in the first week i think we'll know you know i went back in
time and i looked at something from 2017 that was all about his his family members writing books in
the 1800s that by name identify political candidates sitting presidents and weaves their
actual history into the plot lines and all this was dismissed as you know tremendous coincidence
but it is coincidence lasagna oh my god i mean it's like uh oh i got the instructions on what my
role is going to be in the illuminati and then he goes out and does all of that now it's not completed
yet okay you got to see where that goes if you want to go into it really graceful makes a nice
compilation of the crap that he has a time machine and everything ridiculous too but
it is funny because it what it what it proves i think in a decent example is the the enemy
our common enemy makes their plans in hundreds of years of timeline arc and they subdivide it into
50 years and then 30 years and then the next five years and these are the agendas there was an
agenda you know uh 2012 there's an agenda it's 2020 all these agendas with the year after
agenda 2050 agenda 2030 okay it's all laid out they publish this stuff you know so and they
communicate not in secret smoke-filled rooms they have a language of reversal okay whatever they say
it's the opposite of that you know if they say sustainable it's unsustainable etc all right and
they uh issue their marching orders and you know john where the way so what is where where does your
hope lie then where are your hopes in myself this possibility ends at the end of my nose
and anybody that interacts with me gets my opinion and then yeah but wait a minute so what's your
what's your hope for the world you're not going to manage to change it just by saying well
my responsibility ends at the end of my nose are you no no look what i do matters in my own life
what absolutely yeah yeah that does yeah and you will you need like all humans a club of your own
your friends circles they removed all of mine because all of my opinions they didn't agree
with because they're indoctrinated do you understand what a force multiplier is ai the internet all
this is a force multiplier it i said this in an email i shout out to my league it is a way for
elite psychopaths to relieve themselves of the mundane chores of abusing you personally and
automate that and they give it to you you know with oh look this how convenient this is i could
just ask it a question it's always wrong you know the the difference between ai and actual
intelligence is ai has no memory every time you ask a question it pulls the entire earth and gives
you the wrong answer or a shit answer it's unusable but you can write term papers with it and books
with it god i i'm out of a job with this right but all that stuff will be garbage and you will very
soon not be allowed to get any real information if i had to start all my research today it wouldn't
be possible okay i have to directly type in links to places i want to go because 12 different
browsers won't send me there says a dead page or something they're removing the way back machine
and the internet archive and everything they want to start you over fresh or as soon as you pop out
of the womb you're a fool and everything you read so you know so john how do we reverse all this and
so so people they they like trump because it gives them a little bit of hope a little bit more hope
than they had with them with kamala so where does your hope lie having destroyed the trump hope
we've made some mistakes by adopting things civilizationally that have been amazing but
it pales in comparison to what they could have provided us with because of the way that they
were used we're going to have to take several steps back to take a step forward if i could snap my
fingers and make every computer on the earth disappear i would do it exactly i would as well
absolutely but that won't solve it because they're shielded they know about that
all right so we're we have to just we have to go back to being basic local villages
you know they want to they let us get all these nations they've always controlled and now it's
just a big shopping mall where they go to the nation who's making the best thing that they want
to use and they inflict damage with it that's how they view us there was a mindset to being
generationally wealthy that is very hard to get into you cannot spend 50 million dollars if
unless you're buying jet airplanes from the military you can't spend it in a single lifetime
and some of these we have trillionaires now these money is valueless they don't value money
that's just a tool they value real assets which is why oh nothing and be happy got said and take it
back they spoke the quiet part out loud you know i mean that's what they're planning they they're
going to return the entire earth now to a feudalistic society if they have their way and my hope lies in
everybody just saying oh fuck off no john do you think they'll send us all out to the fields they
will try to you see your career in the future being in the fields i don't see myself having a
career in the future i just put food in my mouth and constantly and maintain and try to keep a roof
over my head and you know i'm somebody's house pet now i don't even try i could go back in the
workforce what the hell would i do nobody wants to hear from me you know i'm so unpopular with
anything comes out of my face but you know i'm not pulling any punches it's not i'm not pessimistic
i'm just you know i can appeal to i stopped you know trying to write on my blog and all
this stuff because it's like i don't want to appeal to a audience i want to have a one-on-one
conversation with somebody and be compelling and effective and that is the only way i've found i'm
able to do that yeah so my lead where do you where do your hopes lie for the future
have you my hope lies in the people my hope lies in the people i think that when
more and more people know the truth that change will take place yeah and if you if you pull a big
root out like vaccines have always been harmful cannot be anything but harmful there is no good
one bad one this one's okay this was not okay no fence sitting allowed it is directly poisoning
you like spoon feeding rat poison into your mouth and all the people that have ever you know had
something to do with putting a shot in your arm are guilty of harming you that's it all right that's
it and that is a lot of people that's a lot of fools that's a lot of you know conspiring psychos
but whatever okay you bring up charles rocher and just pull the root out it cannot be possible
they don't work the way they've been told they offer no protection they only offer harm period
end of story and then the pandemic folds and then they all that everybody comes out of the bushes
guilty yeah because they are they have a big sign on their head you know i had this idea we could
we could um you know if we apply ourselves somebody could do this john i was asking my
lead because she's the guest oh i'm sorry i'm sorry but we could we could digitally brand them
with a scarlet p psycho you know with ai if we really wanted to program that but we won't be
allowed to so well i do agree with one thing you say if we're given a choice to take away all the
computers overnight i would vote for that because i think but television yeah my lee what what do
you think where so yeah so so i i um yes i i think the hope still lies with people when
when people really wake up and know the truth know what's happening they start to engage in this
fight and in australia even though we we don't have a lot we we have we still we have a growing
numbers of people who believe that that they need to take control they need to to fight and to
take not so much taking control but to to influence the the government for change and i think that is
the hope that we're going to have so we have an election coming up in australia that's the federal
election and more people are going to politics and and and the public are not no longer
where they could see that the lies of the major parties so they're going to vote for the
independence and the smaller political groups and and i think that that change will hopefully
influence the direction of how the government the country's been governed and and and i think
you know for me i'm just continue to speak out continue to throw my lawyers calling me
you know what my lease is the trust my lee or or not trust uh sorry
do you trust this lawyer or not oh yes 100 um okay bring him on the call then no i can't just just um
all right well actually maybe that's a good place to stop yeah um but so thank you very much my
lee for coming on i i think there's more that we haven't talked about um i would have liked to have
known more about cambodia vietnam and laos and what you know about those but um
that would take a long time maybe we can invite you on again is that okay yeah sure yeah thank
you for having me thank you thank you so much and if you get in touch with charles and we'll try to
organize some kind of help for you i can get secret back deep but charles needs to email me in that
case okay to remind me char and then other other expert witnesses so personally i would make it
really difficult for them with your expert witnesses and insist on them being admitted
and that was that will cause the case to be adjourned okay all right but you need so the
lawyer should be able to help you with that you're saying dr bhakti would be happy and mike eden um
he would really think about and he's a former vice president of fiza interestingly so he's
a whistleblower essentially yes yes that would be great that will be terrified of what was secret
back to you has been attacked by the german government so he's obviously dangerous yes um
and we've got other people jj couey should be an expert witness i would ask your lawyer
yeah to say that you are instructing him to instruct my my lawyer is good they're working
with instructor certain expert expert witnesses and that will cause the case to be adjourned i
think they'll have to admit them okay use the box you know yeah so i think you've got an exciting
time playing with them yes future my lead and especially i would emphasize that you come from
cambodia all the time okay it came from the tibetania of cambodia yeah to safety in in
australia and you're very surprised at what's happened in australia particularly in victoria
yes okay thank you do you understand me so they won't be able to yes i understand what you're
saying but you make me feel uncomfortable it is um it is being it's been submitted it is part of
my submission um they were aware of that yeah good yeah i think your biggest weapon is where
you come from that you escaped from that tyranny on a small boat taking huge risks and and
and now you're very surprised that you're living in similar times in in australia